Avaron1974

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Hi! As I wrote in my post above, it is very much debatable how bi-curious Hana is. Her bi-curiousity is definitely very limited. She even explains that she vastly prefers men as sexual partners and was not even trying to test the bi-waters. Her one experience came to be under special circumstances. While she is ok with her encounter and had great fun despite being seduced into it, Hana does not miss it nor does she search for further experiences.
That does not sound like her bi-curiousity is strong, rather the opposite. Hana might have some bi-fantasies, but she will only act on them if she likes the girl in question quite much and very rare circumstances allign with it. So it i debatable if Hana has bi-curiousity or does just fantasy fulfilling.
I hate to nit pick but that's exactly what bi curious is, it's just a curiosity and maybe a dabble, nothing more.

If she was actively searching she'd be bisexual.

As it stands she's prefers men but isn't afraid to dabble with women which is all bi curious is.
 
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ename144

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I don't know if you did the practice scene with Mina but she knows full well what she's doing and what her "assets" do for her.

Her tits got her the gig and she full well knows it.

She's embracing things just fine, she is just subtle about it.

People keep talking about corrupting her but she's using her body to get what she wants and knows exactly how to play the game.

She's only surface level innocent, you don't hang around a mega slut without knowing what's what and considering she's close with her friend who goes through cock like candy and a boyfriend like Killian....

I put money on it now she's one of the dirtiest girls in the game but hides it well.
That's not quite the same thing. Mina isn't naive. She knows what sex is and how sex appeal works. But she also doesn't think about certain fantasies in too much depth not because she can't conceive of them but because she feels those fantasies are the sort of thing a "proper" girl wouldn't express too much interest in. As she said, she has a lot of baggage in her head.

The MC isn't opening her eyes to a new world of lust, he's just standing in front of it in a way that gives Mina a valid excuse to watch the background.
 

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Hana´s groping of Mina was, as she even explained herself, teasing the hell out of Mina´s blatant interest in her story.
And why would she choose to tease her in such an overtly sexual way? It stands to reason it was because she enjoyed doing so. And I think the way she talked about Mina afterwards in bed made that even more obvious. She was even fantasizing about the idea of Mina listening to them fooling around and getting turned on by it.
 

Z3r0Sama

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Not sure why it doesn't work for you, but I, and I am sure most people here, regularly delete our completed games, and the saves work completely fine for the next version, whether one month or one year later, as long as you aren't using a different Windows login or reinstalling Windows or something unusual. Try it yourself with Pale Carnations. The saves are in:
%appdata%\RenPy\PaCaGame-(10 digit number, random?)

If you are truly worried, you can just zip the ..\game\save directory from the Pale Carnations install directory (or any other Renpy game), which is just a few megabytes, and save it for later.
It does work, I'm just gonna use it as an excuse to replay from the beginning again when new update drops :)
 
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Turret

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Hana seemed to really enjoy her time with the woman rock musician. To me it seems to have awakened her kinky side. I can't imagine this would happen unless someone were pretty open to same-sex experiences. It certainly didn't seem like she had a lot of second thoughts. I can easily see her with another woman if the opportunity presents itself, and she finds her attractive. Mina or Felicia seem the most likely candidates, probably with the MC as a willing participant. If I had to guess.
I hate to nit pick but that's exactly what bi curious is, it's just a curiosity and maybe a dabble, nothing more.
If she was actively searching she'd be bisexual.
As it stands she's prefers men but isn't afraid to dabble with women which is all bi curious is.
Hello!
It seems we have here a case of translation/definition missmatch, which happens in different languages. Hana is ok with and had fun in her sole bi-encounter, but she never intended it to happen, does not miss encounters like these and does not actively search for or did act on new opportunities of these kind. Here that is not bi-curious, but fulfilling/exploring fantasies.

Here Bi-curious(Bi-interessiert) would be if Hana had her experience and after it either started searching for new encounters/opportunities on her own or started acting on new opportunities arising by chance, to see if she really likes it or not. No matter how laidback in approach, there has to be an active pursuit of the thing in question (and be it only acting on further pure chance encounter and nothing else) for it to be counted as curious.

So we seem to mean the same thing, but use different concepts/words for it.
 

MoarDakka123

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Hello!
It seems we have here a case of translation/definition missmatch, which happens in different languages. Hana is ok with and had fun in her sole bi-encounter, but she never intended it to happen, does not miss encounters like these and does not actively search for or did act on new opportunities of these kind. Here that is not bi-curious, but fulfilling/exploring fantasies.

Here Bi-curious(Bi-interessiert) would be if Hana had her experience and after it either started searching for new encounters/opportunities on her own or started acting on new opportunities arising by chance, to see if she really likes it or not. No matter how laidback in approach, there has to be an active pursuit of the thing in question (and be it only acting on further pure chance encounter and nothing else) for it to be counted as curious.

So we seem to mean the same thing, but use different concepts/words for it.
So what, to you, is the difference between bi-curious and bi-sexual? "Interessiert" sounds a lot like the word for "interest", which in this context (in English) is used more similarly to "attraction" than "curiosity".
  • "I am interested in gay sex/you."
    This gives the impression of actively desiring.
  • "I am curious about gay sex/you."
    This is more along the lines of 'if I even get the chance I may or may not take it'.
It's not much, but there seems to be some difference in nuance with interest/interessiert, which brings me right back to the initial question.
 

dolfe67

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A straight person wouldn't let themself be touched by the same gender, or stop it very fast. So Hana is bi-curious
 
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Turret

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So what, to you, is the difference between bi-curious and bi-sexual? "Interessiert" sounds a lot like the word for "interest", which in this context (in English) is used more similarly to "attraction" than "curiosity".
  • "I am interested in gay sex/you."
    This gives the impression of actively desiring.
  • "I am curious about gay sex/you."
    This is more along the lines of 'if I even get the chance I may or may not take it'.
It's not much, but there seems to be some difference in nuance with interest/interessiert, which brings me right back to the initial question.
And these nuances seem to be the kicker here. In German "Curiousity" would be Interesse/Neugier, that is an active interest/attraction/observation to the topic at hand.
"Bi-curious" in this context would be a man/woman actively testing out several times if he/she likes it or a bisexual person open to "experimentation" with the gender he/she prefers less in bed.(Since a majority of bisexual persons prefer one gender in bed a bit more, 50/50 bisexual persons with no discernible preference are rare)

What happened to Hana, who slid into her bi-encounter totally unintended and never felt the desire to further pursue it, that would be in German a pure dabbler/"Amateur" or an experiment. A straight man/woman whose bi-fantasies are awoken by the (pleasurable) act or exploring existing fantasies. It could also be a hint that a person is bisexual, but he/she does not know it until this initial encounter and further experimentation.

Hana is experimenting/dabbling rather passively with few pursuit of her own with bi-sexuality, in German we would term it like that, "ein Experiment", "eine Erfahrung", "ein Zufallsversuch".
In English bi-curious might be the correct term for it, but not in German, where the translation of curiousity inherently always has an (if variable intensity) active pursuit of the topic in question.
 
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dint know this existed and this is rather high quality for a renpy game even the ui and main menu are completely custom feels like an actual game made by a dev studio rather then a one person made renpy game looks really good so far

that's partially i guess why i couldn't find it given how many renpy games are ether mediocre or straight up bad so i zone out when i see the renpy tag
 

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So... I was looking into his patreon, can please someone put the previews, diaries and bonus art?
 

sunaboz

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So... I was looking into his patreon, can please someone put the previews, diaries and bonus art?
There are some very nice Veronica and Rosalind photos there but posting it here would be stupid considering they have so few patrons. You can access them for 5$ of support only and then you can stop monthly payments, it's a very cheap deal considering how much entertainment you're getting and that you've been downloading their game for free. Just skip buying beer/movie tickets/cigarettes/some other shit and you will find money eventually.
 
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