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Fuckin lakers,if one's gonna be immoral must do it right.We have an android version, but like last time, no one bothered to leak it.
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This game is incredible. Visually it's the best of it's kind, all the female character model's are visually pleasing. Writing is also great along with the story and characters. As someone that's not the biggest fan of extreme, sadistic, dark and ntr content this game is really amongst the best of V/N's.
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My 3 - 3 saves with the walkthrough mod won't load. Interestingly my 3 -3 saves won't load with the modded 3 -3 update either. My assumption is that the mod has an issue and it appears I'll need to play fresh. However, I'd prefer to play 3 -4 with the walkthrough mod, even if its saves may also be compromised.
Do we know if the walkthrough mod will get updated?
Do we know if the walkthrough mod will get updated?
I wonder how dark he can get at the end. I love the more grounded characters in this game, but the degenerate in me is hoping for a fully corrupted MC using that sex drug on all the girls and turning them into whores lol. Maybe that is going off the rails, but one ending that is full power fantasy might be cool.
- Sep 20, 2018
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I've played through the end of Chapter 3 several times now and I doubt I'll find much more without substantial effort. My expectations were mixed since I'm not really a fan of the Exhibition itself in Week 1. My feelings on the Exhibition haven't changed, but I'd say this was a very strong update despite that handicap.
We get plenty of exposition on how the Club works, which is a good start. This leads to some very interesting options for how the MC will respond to certain situations among the cast. It will take some time to see how these interactions play out, but the dilemmas seem well setup; they're a good blend of ideals and consequences that also serve to develop the characters involved. Along the way we get a lot of lewd content, but also plenty of other material as well. We also get some very nice work with Rosalind and Veronica, which is particularly welcome for me as a big fan of our resident amazon.
I'll put the rest of my thoughts in spoilers, since there's a lot to cover and I'm not always terse when covering it. Don't say you weren't warned!
Okay, I think that wraps it up! Definitely a good update, lots to see even if you're not a fan of Kathleen's games. But mostly it just makes me eager to see how the next chapter will unfold!
tl;dr A good illustration of why the Exhibitions aren't my favorite parts of Pale Carnations, but also why Pale Carnations is my favorite AVN.
We get plenty of exposition on how the Club works, which is a good start. This leads to some very interesting options for how the MC will respond to certain situations among the cast. It will take some time to see how these interactions play out, but the dilemmas seem well setup; they're a good blend of ideals and consequences that also serve to develop the characters involved. Along the way we get a lot of lewd content, but also plenty of other material as well. We also get some very nice work with Rosalind and Veronica, which is particularly welcome for me as a big fan of our resident amazon.
I'll put the rest of my thoughts in spoilers, since there's a lot to cover and I'm not always terse when covering it. Don't say you weren't warned!
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tl;dr A good illustration of why the Exhibitions aren't my favorite parts of Pale Carnations, but also why Pale Carnations is my favorite AVN.
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I always look forward to your takes and you don't disappoint! It's a lot and I'll have to read it again probably a couple of times to really digest it, but thank you for taking the time to compose all of that. I won't speak on anything specifically other than: that repetition in the Veronica scene was very much intentional. Not really quite a bookend to their relationship, but I hoped it would be a nice contrast.
Thanks again, ename, and I'm glad you were able to get something out of it despite it being an exhibition update.
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for me social chameleon is the most useful trait. Likely why I didnt know about Kathleens true intentions till I read here since I just got ian to bang ros
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Great write up, and really agreed on this bit. If there's one critique that can be levelled towards the writing it's, i feel like, that low scores don't seem to influence much of anything throughout the story, especially when it comes to side characters.
I'm sure a low bromance score, or a low trust one, will start affecting things as we move closer to the ending, but it would have still been nice - and organic to boot - if Edwyn's disdain for Ian or Kathleen, reflected in some of the choices we can take, had already started colouring his inner monologue, if not their interaction.
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i wonder if the main character tasting his own batter is going to be a running gag. this is twice now it can happen. Ian and Hana poke fun at you for it even
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Also, as a late addendum and on a complete sidenote from the previous discussion, i can't praise you enough for Rosalind. It's so easy to miss all the quiet character work on her and just dismiss her as the naive mother in a tight spot, and it's so goddamn impressive how that's the point. Like, ever since i realized how hard of a hold she's got over herself and her emotions, or at least how much she utilizes the "doe-eyed" front to distance and protect herself from what she must do, it's become so difficult to tell apart when she's just paying lipservice and playing the role to when she's being actually forthright, especially because it's not like her club persona is all that different from how she really is.
No surprise this is my favorite scene of hers, with how unapologetically honest she gets for just a sec:
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All in all girl might just be the most cutthroat out of the bunch, but in a very real and relatable sort, and i fully expect a low affection/libido one to outright tell Edwyn to go fuck himself by the end of this. Which, it'd be totally deserved for the low affection. Best milf in porn.
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I don't think Felicia is stupid by any means, but she definitely seems to be selling herself short.
I'm late to the party here, but I'd say that number is right on the cusp of what's possible in a run that favors Veronica but doesn't reject the premise of the club; I'm not sure if that's what you were going for or not.
It's important to note that lot of Veronica's early interactions can give you negative points with her, and not always in obvious ways. Picking Veronica as your favorite when she demos the week 1 costume is a -1 hit (-2 if you asked them to spin), whereas saying the question is stupid gives you +2 (and is only possible if you don't ask them to spin). That kind of swing makes a check like this difficult to balance.
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I suppose if we want to get technical Kathleen probably has at least some stake in the MC's apartment.
I've been assuming Kathleen would just rig the game to ensure the last place girl finishes strong in Week 3, but we'll see.
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Agreed, love Rose. She's outwardly simple, but there's a lot going on beneath the surface to keep things that way.
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This encapsulates a lot of my thinking around that choice. The point about affection scores not generally being a measure of the MC's affection for another character is especially well made, I think.
And since the MC explicitly recognizes that extending an offer of friendship would be an empty gesture in any case, it seems odd to me that it is gated by an affection score.
Arguably, this could also be a place where a background trait like Social Butterfly came in to help, allowing the MC to better navigate an uncomfortable social situation.
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if Veronica_Affection >= 18 or VeroFlag == True or perk_socialButterfly == True
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- Apr 30, 2017
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Finally got to play, I have to say this was a very packed update for the amount of time progressed in the game.
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Hi there i made an android port ch3 update 4
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About the porn shot decision: I had few time in the last days, so I might be late to the party with two cents about that event, but here it is.
For reference, In my playthrough I play (renamed) Edwin as a nice guy (low toughness), but with some edges (he has some toughness when needed) of his own. I totally get why the option to refuse the porn shot exists and it is great it is there, but I chose to do it for several reasons.
One is roleplaying the "Social Chameleon" trait in that Edwin tries to balance how far he pushes back against the owners and how far he goes to fit in. Since his face will be obfuscated and he is not sure how rough Ian would handle Rosi, he goes through with it. It is a nice Background touch that Hana and August seem to be quite amused how this event plays out.
Another reason for this Edwin to go through with the shot is gaining "brownie points" with Kath, Chuck and August, to have some wriggle room to refuse for really tough/sadist stuff that might come later.
A question for TD about the cumplay at the end of the shot: What is the relevance of this for Edwin? Can you tell us a bit what will happen if he does it or does not? Does he gain points with Rosi and Hana if he does or not? It was inserted for a reason, we need to know the strategic options in gameplay.
For reference, In my playthrough I play (renamed) Edwin as a nice guy (low toughness), but with some edges (he has some toughness when needed) of his own. I totally get why the option to refuse the porn shot exists and it is great it is there, but I chose to do it for several reasons.
One is roleplaying the "Social Chameleon" trait in that Edwin tries to balance how far he pushes back against the owners and how far he goes to fit in. Since his face will be obfuscated and he is not sure how rough Ian would handle Rosi, he goes through with it. It is a nice Background touch that Hana and August seem to be quite amused how this event plays out.
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A question for TD about the cumplay at the end of the shot: What is the relevance of this for Edwin? Can you tell us a bit what will happen if he does it or does not? Does he gain points with Rosi and Hana if he does or not? It was inserted for a reason, we need to know the strategic options
in gameplay.