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Is this with ntr ? Asking because it looks like this on some of the pictures. I know it has no ntr tag, but a cheating tag.
Depends first on how you define NTR for yourself, there is a large span how narrow or wide people define the term and second there is also the possibilty as the MC to NTR someone else. (A real dick move in that case, but it is an option)Is this with ntr ? Asking because it looks like this on some of the pictures. I know it has no ntr tag, but a cheating tag.
Ok, thanks. What I understand as NTR, is when the girls you have something with, do it also with other males.Depends first on how you define NTR for yourself, there is a large span how narrow or wide people define the term and second there is also the possibilty as the MC to NTR someone else. (A real dick move in that case, but it is an option)
We have prostitution and a luxury brothel in the game and most LIs are connected to this brothel in one way or the other. In a strict sense of NTR, meaning only a loved one you have a relationship with is in NTR, then currently this is not the case. That might happen later in the game, but then again choices matter and you might be able to prevent it.
At this moment, it is correct that only a cheating tag in given, not an NTR one.
But I know that some people have really strange notions of what NTR is and for them this game is full of NTR. You should play the game and you will see that thereis much more to it than this frakking NTR stuff! We have great graphics with a meaningful story and equally meaningful choices, there is a reason PC is among the Top 3 rated games on F95!![]()
Then it will not be a big problem for you with Pale Carnations as it is now. The MC is single at game start and has to build a relationship with the possible love interests first. And like in real life the LIs are not nuns, so have (had) relationships before, but even if you go for women like "Mrs. Hedonist" Felicia, you will learn over the game that possible real NTR in the future will have to be chosen very distinctively by yourself.Ok, thanks. What I understand as NTR, is when the girls you have something with, do it also with other males.
Ok, this was what I wanted to know.Then it will not be a big problem for you with Pale Carnations as it is now. The MC is single at game start and has to build a relationship with the possible love interests first. And like in real life the LIs are not nuns, so have (had) relationships before, but even if you go for women like "Mrs. Hedonist" Felicia, you will learn over the game that possible real NTR in the future will have to be chosen very distinctively by yourself.
Depends on what counts as "something". There are two potential girlfriends, and after you have "the talk" with one of them, you can agree to enter into an exclusive relationship (your obligations at the brothel notwithstanding). So far she has upheld her side of the bargain, you can be a scumbag and have sex behind her back. I don't remember if you can do the same with the other potential GF, as we stayed casual in my playthrough.Ok, thanks. What I understand as NTR, is when the girls you have something with, do it also with other males.
That is not quite correct! There are at least 5 LIs, Hana, Mina and the three Carnations Felicia, Rosi and Veronika. We should not forget Kath for the "asshole MC" player and there might be also Dalia and Sophia as "dark horses" among the possible love interests. Because the way these two were introduced gives vibes towards possible love interest later in the game.There are two potential girlfriends, and after you have "the talk" with one of them, you can agree to enter into an exclusive relationship (your obligations at the brothel notwithstanding). So far she has upheld her side of the bargain, you can be a scumbag and have sex behind her back. I don't remember if you can do the same with the other potential GF, as we stayed casual in my playthrough.
The only candidates for the type of relationship vanilla lovers are looking for are Hana and Mina. If you are not ok with the LIs prostituting themselves (which is what the discussion seemed like it was originally about) then the remaining LIs are eliminated.That is not quite correct! There are at least 5 LIs, Hana, Mina and the three Carnations Felicia, Rosi and Veronika. We should not forget Kath for the "asshole MC" player and there might be also Dalia and Sophia as "dark horses" among the possible love interests. Because the way these two were introduced gives vibes towards possible love interest later in the game.
While the carnations are obviously prostitutes, it seems TD makes effort to not let them have sex with other men unless you choose to. This seems to be a conscious thing and therefore might be continued like that.The only candidates for the type of relationship vanilla lovers are looking for are Hana and Mina. If you are not ok with the LIs prostituting themselves (which is what the discussion seemed like it was originally about) then the remaining LIs are eliminated.
Yeah I had made just this observation a few months ago after the last big update...it's certainly a stylistic choice....for a club touted as a depraved place full of promiscuity, there sure are a lot of overarching harem themes, and particularly bdsm/humiliation themes (without promiscuity).While the carnations are obviously prostitutes, it seems TD makes effort to not let them have sex with other men unless you choose to. This seems to be a conscious thing and therefore might be continued like that.
At least... not yet! They might be fucked by the old men in the last trialWhile the carnations are obviously prostitutes, it seems TD makes effort to not let them have sex with other men unless you choose to. This seems to be a conscious thing and therefore might be continued like that.
I remember being surprised when Kat said to MC that the patrons normally dont get to fuck the carnations - since in that early video from another carnations event you saw them all taking turns at them.Yeah I had made just this observation a few months ago after the last big update...it's certainly a stylistic choice....for a club touted as a depraved place full of promiscuity, there sure are a lot of overarching harem themes, and particularly bdsm/humiliation themes (without promiscuity).
Hopefully including Hana and MinaAt least... not yet! They might be fucked by the old men in the last trial![]()
Yes, you are correct that the super vanilla players currently "only" have Hana and Mina as love interests.The only candidates for the type of relationship vanilla lovers are looking for are Hana and Mina. If you are not ok with the LIs prostituting themselves (which is what the discussion seemed like it was originally about) then the remaining LIs are eliminated.
Interesting ranking for the Carnations by you. In my opinion a romance with Felicia is the easiest. While her marriage is a problem, just look at the evening drive with Feli´s proposal. Esp. if you chose to go with her to the art exhibtion without any strings attached, it is easy to see that the MC and Felicia have a clicking connection.I do agree that although right now we cannot have the 'talk' with the carnations, they will eventually become LIs. I feel like the romance with Veronica is probably the easiest among the carnations followed by Felicia (she is married + a massive hedonist so it will require some convincing) followed by Rose (due to her having a kid).
I define love interest as a person you will have a marriage or marriagelike relationship with. So Kath keeping her marriage while shaking it up with "bad" Edwin is definitely possible.Kat is a psycho and even in the endings I dont see her throwing away her marriage/reputation to be with some college kid. I think they will simply continue to fuck in the club. Edwin on the evil path might not be too interested in relationships/love anyway.
It would be really great if they become love interests! So please TD1900 , if it is a thought option by you to make Dalia and/or Sophia datable love interests, please do so!I would be very surprised if Sophia and Dalia are going to be actual LIs.
I prefer both, I want mc to be having sex not just watching, but I also want the story and world to be believable and consistent.I remember being surprised when Kat said to MC that the patrons normally dont get to fuck the carnations - since in that early video from another carnations event you saw them all taking turns at them.
But I guess I prefer seeing my MC having sex than just watching others.
You may be right. Although they are participating in a contest in a brothel. And that means they can get fucked by the ugly bastards. I think the very first introduction to club activities was the CD that Kat gave us featuring public use. I think patrons get to fuck the carnations depending on the type of event so I would not be surprised if we saw a public use scene with the 3 carnations. I would even want a scene like that. I am not normally a fan of hardcore/extreme fetishes but for this particular game I want more hardcore scenes because of how well the evil route is written. And even in the route where the MC is nice showing more extreme scenes can work narratively by strengthening the MC's resolve to bring down the club.While the carnations are obviously prostitutes, it seems TD makes effort to not let them have sex with other men unless you choose to. This seems to be a conscious thing and therefore might be continued like that.
The reason for my ranking is as follows:Interesting ranking for the Carnations by you. In my opinion a romance with Felicia is the easiest. While her marriage is a problem, just look at the evening drive with Feli´s proposal. Esp. if you chose to go with her to the art exhibtion without any strings attached, it is easy to see that the MC and Felicia have a clicking connection.
Rosi would be next. Her marriage is no problem, snce the piece of filth her husband is abandoned her into the crappy situation she is in. But from her personality we see currently and some other things, I think it more probable that at the end of the game they part ways on friendly terms.
Veronica I see as the least probable LI. She distinctly, even on very high realtions, told the MC that once the month is over she would prefer to never see him again outside his training at her gym. That is quite a hurdle to take.
I remember being surprised when Kat said to MC that the patrons normally dont get to fuck the carnations - since in that early video from another carnations event you saw them all taking turns at them.
But I guess I prefer seeing my MC having sex than just watching others.
Can you help me pinpoint the line you're talking about? If she explicitly says that, I need to have a look at it. I have a vague recollection that it might be around a conversation around event theming, but all I can find is a line from Rosalind saying the patrons aren't allowed to touch her during a pre-exhibition.
Never mind, found it!
For posterity:
kat "These games usually require a dick and you've got one. Quite the handsome one too."
mc "To be honest, I figured the club's patrons would be participating..."
kat "What? No. They're here to watch. For the most part."
kat "They'll occasionally get the chance to have fun, but they do have money on the outcome each week. It'd be improper to directly involve them too much."
mct "(Proper...? What's proper in any of this?)"
mc "That makes sense, I guess."
kat "With that being the case, we call on our male employees to fill in as needed. Namely you, Ian, and occasionally even Warren."
If that's the part you're thinking of, it doesn't discount the patrons getting some.
I prefer both, I want mc to be having sex not just watching, but I also want the story and world to be believable and consistent.
I can understand why TD might be choosing to not have guys taking turns with the carnations, but to me it felt a bit forced and unbelievable to not have the patrons fuck the carnations so far - even if there where reasons given like the betting.I think the very first introduction to club activities was the CD that Kat gave us featuring public use. I think patrons get to fuck the carnations depending on the type of event so I would not be surprised if we saw a public use scene with the 3 carnations. I would even want a scene like that.
Dalias character model is insanely sexy, but could you really look past her having been a proper prostitute?It would be really great if they become love interests! So please , if it is a thought option by you to make Dalia and/or Sophia datable love interests, please do so!Those two would be great "against the flow" LIs.
From what we know from the character data and gameplay Dalia is a nice and indeed intelligent woman, who knows how to be delicate and when needed forceful. The only "conventional flaw" this Latina lady has is she is/was a prostitute, depending under what circumstances you get together. A man looking beyond her (former) occupation can make quite a catch.