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Pardon me and please do not get it the wrong way, but what do you think the average Porn actor or prostitute does? What you describe here is niche of niche stuff, except maybe rimming, which is a bit(!) more common.Dont disgust-shame me, bro!
, except maybeOf course I meant disgusted when thinking of a loving sexual relationship. You can still be kind and well-wishing like you are to your grandma. You still might be disgusted when thinking of rimjobbing her.
I'm also disgusted by girls eating feces, fucking horses, and riding rotten toes of corpses btw. Even if it was 7 years ago. Just to clarify
No wonder your view is like that, when you are averaging things only a tiny fraction of these two groups does, on all.
And an example that not everything is black and white: "Gina Wild"(stagename) was once a famous porn actress, today she is a rather well-known theatre actress, who is acting at some of the major theatres.
Nobody denies that are quite a number of porn actors and prostitutes which are not "relationship material", but that has less to do with their jobs, but more with other things, like general mindset ouside work for example.
Like in all groups, you will some absolutely rotten apples and you´ll also find really great apples in there.
Anyone have a save file from last update I wanna play this update but my previous files got deleted.
Thank you very much!
Thank you very much!
I was thinking the exact same thing reading this entire conversation. You can be a great person while simultaneously enjoying getting railed by a bunch of people. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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You're wrong, there is a couple scenes where the MC is being dominated (with Kathleen and Veronica), but it's always a choice between dominating or being dominated.
No problem at all. I didn't mean to infer that prostitutes/pornprostitutes do these things. Its just that I find it similarly disgusting when a woman takes cum from 800 men in her mouth or vagina. To imagine to lie in bed with such a woman and lovingly make out... *shudder*
This is exactly where our views differ. Not only do I think its their rotten apple mindset that leads them to choose to become a prostitute/pornactress. I'm also convinced that doing precisely those things will make them absolutely unfit for a relationship.
I genuinly wish them well in life but I'm not their 'Capt'n save a Hoe'. Prostitute and Wife are paths that don't mix well. She made her choice. You can't always have it all.
Question: what would a girl like Felicia, Mina, Rosalind, or Dalia have to do, for you to disqualify her from being in a relationship with you?
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Where did the Mc's mom's dead theory come from? I WANT to believe that her story is already over and she wouldn't have anything to do with the club, whether it was being blackmailed or whatever. And given that the creator of this game occasionally adds her porn scenes into the game, did you guys think that she would still suffer more than this? Let her rest, dude.
If you don't mind, can you tell me when that is in the story? I will redo the game once more with walkthrough this time so I won't miss it.
This question is not bait btw. I feel pale carnations asks that question implicitly with the LIs it presents.
Since I cannot understand many positions here on the women prostituting themselves I'm truly curious what would a woman have to do to disqualify her from you wanting a relationship with her if being/having been a prostitute is fine. I dont mean obvious personality traits like lying, cheating, malicious behaviour, etc. - but purely sexual acts. Is there something you could not tolerate?
For me it would even be things like enjoying clubbing a lot. But I had different views on this when I was younger.
You can also just check out the gallery with a gallery unlocker included in one of the mods on the original post.If you don't mind, can you tell me when that is in the story? I will redo the game once more with walkthrough this time so I won't miss it.
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Dalia is out because...well...of her job.
Felicia is one of those women that will just cheat on you at some point, I feel. She is nice and seems to have a good heart, but I doubt she can be faithful to anybody for long.
Rosalind could probably be a great wife if you treat her and her kid (or maybe kids) at least decent.
Mina also could be a golden ticket. She can be a bit fake at times, so that could end up being a problem but so far in the game...well...Ian was just a huge idiot for pushing her away.
I tend to break from otherwise fairly modern/sexually welcoming views on this and agree with JasonsGranpa here.
On prostitution/porn in general, disregarding the rest of their lives and the emotional side, the simple choice of career to fuck for money means they hold an implicit expectation of any potential romantic partners being okay with this. What a horribly arrogant notion! This extends to male actors too. (obviously those that are just trying to get money in a quick fix don't apply, I'm talking about those making a career)
So for starters, yes, the idea that a potential partner would require you to accept they fuck other people during the relationship as a condition for even being with them is rotten relationship material to the core. I'm not opposed in anyway to swinging/adventurous couples that go out on weekend orgies. This is not that - this is begining the relationship from a framework of asymetry (unless they're both in the business, that's a whole different dynamic Im not touching)
Furthermore, fundamentally, who does porn attract? No, not nymphos. No, not "sluts".
It attracts women with poor impulse control, and I don't mean sexual. It attracts those who would prefer to have the time of their lives on the weekend spending 100s or 1000s of dollars on fun, then needing to earn that back during the week with a minimal skillset. A different option would be the crappy retail/labor job (like so many americans) - which wouldn't earn enough for the hedonist vacations. That's not objectively "worse", it just means their lives are sine waves with much larger peak amplitudes- and that does not bode well for relationship stability; between lovers, between friends, between family, anything.
Hi Pr0GamerJohnny !
I think we need to focus on the subgroups a bit. The groups you describe are certainly problematic for any type of halfway normal relationship, no doubt about it!
With the good apples I meant Porn actors/Prostitutes which stop or just finish off the last set contracts and then stop when they found the right one. Showing commitment to the relationship forming.
Those partners ok with them continuing shooting porn or being a hooker are a whole other can of worms.
As are those couples becoming adventurous together at a later date in their relationship.
Thats an opinion I can relate to much more. When you speak of Rosalind, do you mean with or without her current carnation activities?
Because the Rose we see in regards to her former husband is closest to what I would look for in a wife out of all the women presented in the game.
Interesting point. A lot of 'live fast die young' type girls.
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Either or I would say. At least so far we only know that she is very desperate and fears for the well-being of her child, so she does what she thinks she has to. I also think she is a lot more of a deviant than she seems to let on, but we will see if I'm right with that further down the line, I guess.
Of course for MC as is she is simply too old and I don't think she is looking into ever starting a serious relationship with him. So in terms of the game that might not happen. For the MC Hana or Mina (so far) are probably the best options for a serious relationship.
Here are my two cents. If being part of the sex industry is a conscious, uncoerced decision, to me there still shouldn't be any stigma applied to it. You know why? Because that's what it is: a job.
Unfortunately I cannot find a link for the life of me, but some time ago I read an interview with a group of young porn actors living together to share life expenses. Of course the interviewer asked the obvious question: being a group of young, sexually active people, this probably means that when you're together you're also, let's say, sexually active with each other, right? The answer was: of course not. When we're together, sex is the last thing on our minds - we watch movies, or play tabletop RPGs.
By the way, that's the same thing that happens to me: I'm a programmer by trade, and when I'm back home, I don't want to touch a line of code with a ten foot pole. (I'm exaggerating, of course, but this is why work and hobbies rarely coincide).
This is quite relevant to my point: I'm not expecting everyone to want to have a relationship with a sex worker - values and views on life differ. But the idea that their profession is reflection of some kind of twisted, warped mentality - or that their profession must also inevitably reflect horribly on the rest of their life - that, I don't agree with, because it's mixing causes and effects. And also because this could also be applied to other professions, and it doesn't make much sense there either.
Soldiers were discussed before. Let me add policemen to the mix. They are inherently risking their lives for their job, so they should never have relationships, or marry, or have children, right? How arrogant is for them to weigh so much on the shoulders of their dear ones, right? Except, they do have relationships, and marry, and have children. Thank goodness they do! Do they have a life more difficult than other people? Probably, and the same is true for their dear ones. But their profession is not making them worse people in and of itself. (By extension, I find this true also for other high-risk professions: have a look
And things could also be pushed further. As I've said, I'm a programmer. In my country and trade, some IT consulting agencies are quite infamous for requiring an inordinate amount of effort and free time dedicated to projects (yes, months or even years of crunch time is not a reality in the videogame industry only). One in particular is known in my circle as the "widowmaker": I can personally attest the stories of two consultants from the same firm, years away from each other. One of them was dumped after some months by his then girlfriend because of his working conditions, that left him totally "enervated" in his scarce free time, and the second one was married, and his wife was one step away from asking a divorce. He left the job to save his marriage, basically. Well, I'm lucky enough not to be part of such an agency, but I can assure you that when crunch time is required, if I had a wife or children I would be quite absent from their lives - comparatively more than a sex worker, maybe.
Summarizing: the profession by itself is not the issue. People, context and circumstances are the issue. And if you ask me "would you ever see yourself having a relationship with Dahlia, or Mina, or Felicia?", I'll tell you: probably not - but not because of their profession, because we come from backgrounds way too different, and we don't have much in common.
Unfortunately I cannot find a link for the life of me, but some time ago I read an interview with a group of young porn actors living together to share life expenses. Of course the interviewer asked the obvious question: being a group of young, sexually active people, this probably means that when you're together you're also, let's say, sexually active with each other, right? The answer was: of course not. When we're together, sex is the last thing on our minds - we watch movies, or play tabletop RPGs.
By the way, that's the same thing that happens to me: I'm a programmer by trade, and when I'm back home, I don't want to touch a line of code with a ten foot pole. (I'm exaggerating, of course, but this is why work and hobbies rarely coincide).
This is quite relevant to my point: I'm not expecting everyone to want to have a relationship with a sex worker - values and views on life differ. But the idea that their profession is reflection of some kind of twisted, warped mentality - or that their profession must also inevitably reflect horribly on the rest of their life - that, I don't agree with, because it's mixing causes and effects. And also because this could also be applied to other professions, and it doesn't make much sense there either.
Soldiers were discussed before. Let me add policemen to the mix. They are inherently risking their lives for their job, so they should never have relationships, or marry, or have children, right? How arrogant is for them to weigh so much on the shoulders of their dear ones, right? Except, they do have relationships, and marry, and have children. Thank goodness they do! Do they have a life more difficult than other people? Probably, and the same is true for their dear ones. But their profession is not making them worse people in and of itself. (By extension, I find this true also for other high-risk professions: have a look
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, for curiosity's sake).And things could also be pushed further. As I've said, I'm a programmer. In my country and trade, some IT consulting agencies are quite infamous for requiring an inordinate amount of effort and free time dedicated to projects (yes, months or even years of crunch time is not a reality in the videogame industry only). One in particular is known in my circle as the "widowmaker": I can personally attest the stories of two consultants from the same firm, years away from each other. One of them was dumped after some months by his then girlfriend because of his working conditions, that left him totally "enervated" in his scarce free time, and the second one was married, and his wife was one step away from asking a divorce. He left the job to save his marriage, basically. Well, I'm lucky enough not to be part of such an agency, but I can assure you that when crunch time is required, if I had a wife or children I would be quite absent from their lives - comparatively more than a sex worker, maybe.
Summarizing: the profession by itself is not the issue. People, context and circumstances are the issue. And if you ask me "would you ever see yourself having a relationship with Dahlia, or Mina, or Felicia?", I'll tell you: probably not - but not because of their profession, because we come from backgrounds way too different, and we don't have much in common.
That is quite easy to answer. I am a rather laidback person and there is not much which can really alienate me, but there are some principles I do not move an inch.
I do not abide
- Chronical lying, which to a certain point include so called "white lies". I am honest and straight when it comes to questions, I expect my partner to be so as well. We can talk about anything and solve it, no lying required at all. Certainly there are some small, little secrets every person has and some things you say due to politeness, that is not the point. But for the big questions impacting a relationship honesty is king, even if the questions are "delicate".
- Disrespect from either side. Since we talk here about porn shots and prostitution, let us stay with this. I would expect the partner involved in it to be stopping this "work" due to respect for the developing relationship and love interest. If both partners discuss it and come to the common made solution that he or she can continue or start to do it at a later date in the relationship, that is another thing. The pair discussed and decided in a partnership(!) how it goes onward, as it should be. If it means a stop of the sexual work or a continuation that is the pairs question to answer together.
- Backhandedness and obfuscation, unsurprisingly related to the points above. To put in pointedly, her being a brazen slut is not the issue if you know BEFORE fully commiting! You know what the situation is and you can decide if it is a dealbraker for you or not. Learning afterwards piecemeal is a no go.
Same with cheating. It should not happen, but we all are human. An unplanned one-nightstand or a "weekend/holiday of craziness" due to some predatorous player should never happen and would hurt like hell, but I could forgive it if she comes clean on her own and it was a onetime thing. Even a late confession on her own would not be "ok", but acceptable, you know what I mean.
A complete no go would be a hidden ongoing affair or a forced by circumstances confession.
So for me in PC Rosalind and Mina are already out, Felicia depends on how she develops further and Dalia we do not know enough about to say so. While I understand Rosi´s reasoning and her crappy situation, she tries too much manipulation in the background for me to consider her relationship material.
Mina struck out with her "bucket list". Not only is the list hidden for the most part, but the explicitely "wanting to cheat" part! Mina is not wanting a hall pass or so, but explicitely wanting to cheat. A hall pass or swinging is something you can talk about and decide to do it or not, that is ok in my book, a pair deciding how "adventurous" they want to be.
But planned cheating as Mina wants to do, nope, as I wrote above that breaks it for me.
Felicia is still realtionship material, even more so as the game goes on. When we play her path, it becomes clear Feli would not even be at the club, if Elias was not such a complete idiot who cheats on her and disrespects Feli massively. Had Elias helped Felicia save her hometown school, which he could have handled easily and even made great PR with it, we would never have met Felicia at all or only as a friend of Mina.