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Simpgor

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With the current trajectory, the club feels less like a prostitution ring and more like either a strict bdsm club, or a human trafficking ring. (Yes, the first is implicit in the third, but the focus here is more on subjugation than sex). Do people really like violence more than sex?
Veronica is logistically only there because samson wants to "break/own" her to the point that he had people (who were very important to veronica) lie to her over a period of months so that one is more towards sex (control) than violence. The other two also fall under the "sex" category but while typing out reasons why I realized that really it does not matter because Kathleen wants them (and most people) to suffer and she builds sexy stuff (shows) around that as opposed to the other way around. She was playing 4d chess by hiding a psychological "game" for Edwin in Rose's performance (only Kathleen, Edwin, Chuck and (maybe) Hana know that its any more significant than it looks) while to everyone else it looked like a good ole college kid v. milf shoot. IMO that demonstrates shes clearly thinking about the non sexual stuff first.
 
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ename144

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Here I was figuring I'd have at least another week before I needed to fire up the old spreadsheet, when suddenly BOOM!
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TD already gave you the weekly averages since, well, a week ago. Overall, he and GIL are averaging around 97 statics, 3.5 animations and 2230 words per week since work on Chapter 4 Updated 4 began. Here are the charts for Week 27:
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The news is clearly good. The finish line is in sight and should be only a few weeks away, maybe a little sooner if everything breaks our way. All told, it looks like this update will be one of the biggest yet, second only to Chapter 3 Update 4 in terms of Statics and Words, and only losing to Chapter 3 Update 2 in animations by way of a technicality (since that update retroactively added animations to earlier chapters).

Clearly there's going to be a lot to see in the new update (though I assume much of it will require being on the right girls' paths). That will probably work against us in beta testing, since there's going to a lot of material to comb through across a bunch of different paths; I'm guessing we're still looking at a late March release even with this good news. But it should give us plenty to sink our teeth once the update is finally out, and the end is now in sight. All told, I think it will be relatively easy to look forward to the release while our devs hammer out the last details. :)
 

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Here I was figuring I'd have at least another week before I needed to fire up the old spreadsheet, when suddenly BOOM!
Hahaha, Amazing ! I really just came here thinking to myself "okay its the 11th in GMT now, normally it should be this day that ename144 posts updates about the game, should check up the thread" but it wasn't there :(, "yeah maybe it's a bit early..". Anyway, I go about making a comment and then see the notification about new comments in the thread, and then BOOM !! A wild ename144's incredible regular charts post appears ! You are so reliable, it's an honour and a privilege to have you in this community.

Btw, actually I'm the guy who asked you like 1-2 years ago, back in the time when you only gave the chart for the current update, if you wouldn't mind giving the old updates curves for easy comparison of update work progression between updates, and I've always wanted to shoot you a message some day to say that I deeply appreciate you doing this, even today still, and with such rigor and thoroughness. I tip my hat to you mate, thank you very much for all your work :).
 

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Veronica is logistically only there because samson wants to "break/own" her to the point that he had people (who were very important to veronica) lie to her over a period of months so that one is more towards sex (control) than violence. The other two also fall under the "sex" category but while typing out reasons why I realized that really it does not matter because Kathleen wants them (and most people) to suffer and she builds sexy stuff (shows) around that as opposed to the other way around. She was playing 4d chess by hiding a psychological "game" for Edwin in Rose's performance (only Kathleen, Edwin, Chuck and (maybe) Hana know that its any more significant than it looks) while to everyone else it looked like a good ole college kid v. milf shoot. IMO that demonstrates shes clearly thinking about the non sexual stuff first.
Sure but so far we havent seen anything exactly sexy come out of a Kathleen production, only degradation.

If in a few more updates all the current stuff proves to be setting the groundwork; laying the framework for prostitution by breaking them down - what you're saying will be realized, and I'm fine with that story. I'm just dubious that'll be the case, I think it'll be more and more subjugation not as a means, but an end itself.
 
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ename144

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I don't even remember this lol. Can you post both before and after of his hair ?
It happened fairly early in the last update (Chapter 4 Update 3). Amber (the purple-haired girl Killian is now hooking up with) gave the MC a minor makeover.
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Personally I preferred the MC's old look, but then again I'm something of a fashion disaster myself so...
 

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I do find it interesting that despite him being her de facto protege, and one of Chuck's boys, Kat relentlessly needles Edwin with small jibes and making him work with Rose in various settings, especially the porno shoot. Maybe she gets a kick out of twisting the knife on his mommy issues, especially evoking the "single mom prostitute" angle with Rose so she can remind him of Victoria and make him uncomfortable. She is a sadist after all.
 

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I just started playing, and I'll continue another day, but I want spoilers, does the MC have to choose someone? I looked around the gallery, and one of the last scenes is with one of the 'prostitutes' living with him, I got curious.
In my gameplay I basically focused on Hana, I never thought that some of the 'prostitutes' were options.

And is it possible to create a harem, even if it is unofficial? (You understand what I want to know)
I understand the situation of these girls, but after seeing this scene with one of them living with the MC, this seemed possible to me, even though I focused on Hana, my MC naturally had sex with the girls normally, and from what I read in the comments, Hana will be ok with that.

After seeing the gallery, I started to consider restarting the game without focusing on a particular one, I would like to see opinions before deleting my save.

And finally, in order to be with Mina, do we have to lose our friendship with our friend? If I can have Hana and Mina at the same time, I would do it.

Any comments that help me enjoy the game better will be welcome, what do I need to know?
 

Simpgor

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I do find it interesting that despite him being her de facto protege, and one of Chuck's boys, Kat relentlessly needles Edwin with small jibes and making him work with Rose in various settings, especially the porno shoot. Maybe she gets a kick out of twisting the knife on his mommy issues, especially evoking the "single mom prostitute" angle with Rose so she can remind him of Victoria and make him uncomfortable. She is a sadist after all.
I think it is a mix of her being a sadist and also her recognizing the "darkness" Edwin has in him and pushing him to embrace it

Any comments that help me enjoy the game better will be welcome, what do I need to know?
unofficially you can have have sex with every girl outside the club at one point or another with varying degrees of relationships but its not exclusive or anything
you can (easily imo) have mina affection and ian bromance both maxed but we havent seen any real fallout from it yet so it could have a negative impact down the line but i doubt it will
you can be fuck buddies with hana and be with mina, or you can be a lying cunt and date hana and still have sex with mina :HideThePain:
 
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I just started playing, and I'll continue another day, but I want spoilers, does the MC have to choose someone? I looked around the gallery, and one of the last scenes is with one of the 'prostitutes' living with him, I got curious.
In my gameplay I basically focused on Hana, I never thought that some of the 'prostitutes' were options.

And is it possible to create a harem, even if it is unofficial? (You understand what I want to know)
I understand the situation of these girls, but after seeing this scene with one of them living with the MC, this seemed possible to me, even though I focused on Hana, my MC naturally had sex with the girls normally, and from what I read in the comments, Hana will be ok with that.

After seeing the gallery, I started to consider restarting the game without focusing on a particular one, I would like to see opinions before deleting my save.

And finally, in order to be with Mina, do we have to lose our friendship with our friend? If I can have Hana and Mina at the same time, I would do it.

Any comments that help me enjoy the game better will be welcome, what do I need to know?
Okay...

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Ottoeight

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I just started playing, and I'll continue another day, but I want spoilers, does the MC have to choose someone? I looked around the gallery, and one of the last scenes is with one of the 'prostitutes' living with him, I got curious.
In my gameplay I basically focused on Hana, I never thought that some of the 'prostitutes' were options.

And is it possible to create a harem, even if it is unofficial? (You understand what I want to know)
I understand the situation of these girls, but after seeing this scene with one of them living with the MC, this seemed possible to me, even though I focused on Hana, my MC naturally had sex with the girls normally, and from what I read in the comments, Hana will be ok with that.

After seeing the gallery, I started to consider restarting the game without focusing on a particular one, I would like to see opinions before deleting my save.

And finally, in order to be with Mina, do we have to lose our friendship with our friend? If I can have Hana and Mina at the same time, I would do it.

Any comments that help me enjoy the game better will be welcome, what do I need to know?
Check Mr Bubu's walkthrough while playing, save often, don't overwrite your saves and make the choices you love the most.

That's it.
 

se20299

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It's so annoying when people clog the thread up with useless questions when it has been answered 200 pages back. Use the search function people. I promise most of the common questions have been answered at least 10 times.
 
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