VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Randomguy3478]

Imo rose didnt have a personality switch in the non threesome scenes, just got a little bolder with now being a lot more familiar with the 2 after what already happened. The scenes were kind of wholesome even imo. It’s a different thing in the threesome but again, subtle reminders that she doesn’t actually want it (handjob scene, mc remembering his mother in the threesome scene comparing them) once they get started I’m still not 100% sure it’s mostly act for her, but there is some of it at least imo. If you don’t want rose to be „corrupted“ like that just don’t play that path, definitely not the full deal path. But I do believe she has feelings for mc (might only be what I wish for) just not opened up yet, perhaps the stage Felicia was in before kind of

Afaik the idea is that rose is actually way more into all this stuff than she lets on/consciously knows, just like MCs mum apparently came to enjoy the porn eventually on some level.

I enjoy the full deal route because I enjoy the power-aspect of being able to make her do something she doesn't want to do, just so the MC can use her for his selfish pleasure. I got the impression thats what the full deal route is about. But if she gets corrupted in the sense that she starts to like those things the whole route as it got presented makes imo no sense anymore.

So I'm neither interested in a corrupted rose, nor in a vanilla path. I'm interested in having her as a part-time slave who does these things because she has no other choice - but doesn't enjoy doing them.

It was imo the only route who followed up on the dark beginning of the game. All other routes are getting more and more lighthearted and vanilla imo.

 

[Phase_01]

What the actual fuck was that date with Felicia!?

Do the developers really love her that much, hm? It was one of the best, if not the best, dates that any visual novel I've played so far has offered me. Thank you, I sincerely mean it.
Brought back some memories from my own dates.

That was gold.

devs love her so much shes gonna get absolutely physically, mentally, emotionally wrecked next exhibition

 

[ImSenjou]

I finally played the update, and these are my opinions:

Spoiler: Rose

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Spoiler: Felícia

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Spoiler: Hana

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Spoiler: Chuck - Sophia

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Spoiler: Kat

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Overall I found the update to be very short, except for the threesome with Ian, I think I saw everything and actually read everything.

 

[kira0328]

who is the new girl that will join the club in the feature?

will it be the mc mother ?

 

[thememeguy123]

Afaik the idea is that rose is actually way more into all this stuff than she lets on/consciously knows, just like MCs mum apparently came to enjoy the porn eventually on some level.

I enjoy the full deal route because I enjoy the power-aspect of being able to make her do something she doesn't want to do, just so the MC can use her for his selfish pleasure. I got the impression thats what the full deal route is about. But if she gets corrupted in the sense that she starts to like those things the whole route as it got presented makes imo no sense anymore.

So I'm neither interested in a corrupted rose, nor in a vanilla path. I'm interested in having her as a part-time slave who does these things because she has no other choice - but doesn't enjoy doing them.

It was imo the only route who followed up on the dark beginning of the game. All other routes are getting more and more lighthearted and vanilla imo.

I agree to most of it. I definitely would interpret the full deal route just as you did, just not choosing it for myself. and yes that is what I was talking about, you can't really deny there is a part of her that is enjoying the deal (not the exhibitions, some of it too perhaps). I mean just the kitchen scene alone was kind of revealing of that, either she wanted to have even more "influence" over mc or she really needed mc to make her forget all the fucked up stuff going on, there was definitely some enjoyment in there too. in my case I would prefer the latter. and even if she uses the mc for the most part, it's just to pay the debt off her useless ass husband left on her and to try and make a good life for her daughter. can't really say I'd feel "used", but I would prefer some real feelings too of course. I mean the mc has kind of similar thoughts in the early stages of the deal, he does of course realize that.

As to why you choose that route I get you, everyone has their preferences, in rose's case I definitely prefer the more lighthearted vanilla approach, Felicias one was amazing too to say the least. And I do believe we have the same opinion on the corruption part, if I played your route I'd definitely prefer it as you said, that would make her less of a "whore" in a sense. There is no corruption tag though so I might just be wrong here in general, or at least with the word itself.

 

[Ottoeight]

who is the new girl that will join the club in the feature?

will it be the mc mother ?

Me, talking to myself (again and again): "don't answer... don't answer... don't answer... just ignore him, just ignore, just ignore, ignore... ignore list..."

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...
...

(after a while)...

Whew. Just did it. Ignore list.

Now I'm feeling better

... cup of coffee? anyone?

 

[Sasugachan]

I heard there's a compressed version, but it seems really hard to find for some reason

 

[OnaniMasterZM]

Good god Lucy was a completely unexpected and welcome surprise.

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I cannot seem to get this scene, probably something to do with older choices?

 

[housekinokuni1974]

one of the best start i ever encounter, the global quality of the game is an inch above the rest of the production, defenitively gonna see this through, gg to the dev

 

[Garen]

I cannot seem to get this scene, probably something to do with older choices?

If you see her by the fountain and talk to her, then you should be able to get it. After talking to her, select 'nagging feeling' option and talk to Eric. Then choose 'Go find Lucy' option. You'll get the scene later.

 

[scrumbles]

I cannot seem to get this scene, probably something to do with older choices?

What Garen said. Also, if you want to enjoy the scene at its best, you must pressure Lucy (don't go soft with her!), and your MC's toughness must be high enough.
This is not the only way to deal with Lucy: you can be friendly and sympathetic to her. Just, don't stay on the fence, or you may get nothing (there are two variables related to Lucy, Pressure and Affability. Better focus on just one of them).
Note that, if you try to find out what Lucy is doing, you're going to miss a bonding scene with Felicia and some stuff involving the art critic.

Spoiler: Jerk route

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I heard there's a compressed version, but it seems really hard to find for some reason

If it's a sincere question, the compressed version is here.
Next time, you can use the search tool in the top-right corner and look for "compressed".
But first, in your preferences, set Search Options -> Most recent or you'll never find what you're looking for.

 

[Sasugachan]

If it's a sincere question, the compressed version is here.
Next time, you can use the search tool in the top-right corner and look for "compressed".
But first, in your preferences, set Search Options -> Most recent or you'll never find what you're looking for.

Thanks, appreciate it.

 

[Yanagi-san]

How do I unlock the gallery??

 

[Ottoeight]

Overall I found the update to be very short

NOPE. This is one of the longest updates.

I counted 24 scenes in the last ch4 part 3 update.

I've counted 34 scenes in this update so far, and I haven't finished it yet.

 

[Randomguy3478]

I agree to most of it. I definitely would interpret the full deal route just as you did, just not choosing it for myself. and yes that is what I was talking about, you can't really deny there is a part of her that is enjoying the deal (not the exhibitions, some of it too perhaps). I mean just the kitchen scene alone was kind of revealing of that, either she wanted to have even more "influence" over mc or she really needed mc to make her forget all the fucked up stuff going on, there was definitely some enjoyment in there too. in my case I would prefer the latter. and even if she uses the mc for the most part, it's just to pay the debt off her useless ass husband left on her and to try and make a good life for her daughter. can't really say I'd feel "used", but I would prefer some real feelings too of course. I mean the mc has kind of similar thoughts in the early stages of the deal, he does of course realize that.

As to why you choose that route I get you, everyone has their preferences, in rose's case I definitely prefer the more lighthearted vanilla approach, Felicias one was amazing too to say the least. And I do believe we have the same opinion on the corruption part, if I played your route I'd definitely prefer it as you said, that would make her less of a "whore" in a sense. There is no corruption tag though so I might just be wrong here in general, or at least with the word itself.

It's good to even want to be good to fictional characters.

One indication that TD is planning rose as you wrote here, is that you only get her route if you apologize to her after the very first H-scene of the game - which I take as her realizing, that she has a good chance of manipulating/using edwin because he a) does sexual things his heart doesn't really want to and b) is feeling bad about it later.

Isn't guilt tripping women's second most powerful weapon?

 

[okokok]

That is why I cant help but think that Kat told Ian to get her interested as he provided her with a lot of information that would normally be a mistake to tell the best friend of your girlfriend who share almost everything together.

Think this is doubtful. If Kat requested this Ian would do the opposite just to spite her plus he's well capable of saying something he shouldn't while shitfaced

 

[Skylaroo]

That being said, I'm very afraid of what happens in the next update.

I am going to be emotionally wrecked

 

[davicjoin]

I am very looking forward for gallery unlock , can we have it for the update 4 ?

 

[thememeguy123]

It's good to even want to be good to fictional characters.

One indication that TD is planning rose as you wrote here, is that you only get her route if you apologize to her after the very first H-scene of the game - which I take as her realizing, that she has a good chance of manipulating/using edwin because he a) does sexual things his heart doesn't really want to and b) is feeling bad about it later.

Isn't guilt tripping women's second most powerful weapon?

It's funny you say it, it's like you listened to my thoughts today when I was watching some random Death Note scenes and feeling bad for characters that got killed in a fucked up way. I'm really not a fan of me getting too deep into stories and feel for fictional characters, I actually hate that about myself but it is what it is. Trust me I do wish I cared less but that's just how some people are I guess

Are you talking about the first H scene with Rose? You don't have to apologize because you don't have to do anything sexual with her in that scene iirc. but I get your point, same outcome. I do wish Ian didn't have his fingers / dick on Rose at that time already though, it also kind of undermines that whole LI route in my head a bit. But you could say the same about Mina and I do like her too, even though it's again, a little bit different with what happened there.

I'll let my favorite fictional character guilt trip me if it means I can help her out in that situation and get a genuine LI on top of it, let me indulge in my plans a bit

 

[testers123456]

Think this is doubtful. If Kat requested this Ian would do the opposite just to spite her plus he's well capable of saying something he shouldn't while shitfaced

oh... I get that Ian doesn't like Kat all that much but he thinks with his dick and what better way of getting into his gf/ex-gf best friend's pants than by getting her involved with the club which would be his reason for doing so. Also, his been pretty tight lipped about his work at the club with everyone else including the mc's mom who he usually cant lie to. The only time he freely speaks about it is with people who already know. It's just a theory though, we wont really know until either the next update or when the final week of the summer event is over.