You started the personal attacks first just because I disagreed with you about you calling Felicia “evil” by calling anyone who disagreed with you a white knight, then you and your toady friend started insulting me personally, so I responded in kind. I never even said she wasn’t a shitty person, but I guess because I wasn’t kissing your ass you started being a dick to me. You’re a lying hypocrite.
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This game is a perfect mirror of those who play it.
I really mean no disrespect, but if you look at what happens at the club in-game, and your only thought is "eh, women are manipulating whores", I'd say your view of the world - the real world - is *slightly* skewed.
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When do you guys think the next update will come out? I'm cautiously optimistic for a mid September- late October release, but I wouldn't be surprised by a December- February date. The update was excellent as always, and the production value is astronomical, but I hope the game doesn't reach Being a DIK levels of bloat.
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it won't reach BaDIK levels, there's way less stuff in this game to complicate it. No minigames, no phone, no overdone free-roam etc... also less story branching.
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I haven't played BaD and wear that fact as a badge of honor, so I can't comment about its bloat. I've never felt there was much extraneous content or story lines in Pale Carnations. What in PC do you find bloated or leads to your concern that it could become BaD?
- Oct 18, 2017
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I meant development time. I know as the game gets better, it will take more time for updates to come out. I just hope we don't get one update per year schedule, as thst would be excruciating for a game of this quality, as I'm already hooked.
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We can't make any informed speculation until TD gives us a sense of what the next update will encompass. I doubt it will be the next Exhibition, and it will probably include a date-type event for Rose, but beyond that it's hard to say how much might be included. If I had to guess at development time, I'd say the next update will probably be smaller than this, so 6 months seems like a reasonable starting point.
As far as bloat, I'm not really worried. I'd love the next update in a month as much as the next man, but you get what you pay for: good development takes time. The question is where that time is spent.
So far this game has had a very sharp focus on the story and main characters. No one's been shunted onto a holding pattern so we can spend time with side characters or run up the episode count while teasing the same old mysteries. I'm confident we'll keep that focus even if branching has to get broader as we approach whatever climax awaits us.
- Oct 18, 2017
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You're absolutely right. TD hasn't dissapointed us so far, so there's no reason for us to doubt him.
Overall, after this update, I'm once again convinced of how balanced the writers are in their approach to Carnation's personality.
With the introduction of Denise, players now have an example in front of their eyes of what might have happened to Felicia if she had continued to live her dream.
Some players now have an additional reason to love Felicia and become stronger in their desire to help her win, while others will become even more disappointed in her because she chose money over her dreams and pride.
On the other side we have Veronica, who literally went with fanatical perfectionism towards her dream of being a champion and opening a gym with her "exceptionally correct" methods and approaches to training process, that with each failure she only buried herself deeper and deeper, which led to breaking up with her wife, falling into a financial trap and ending up at The Club.
It would seem that with the last Carnation, Rosalind, everything would be on the surface - because of her husband's debts, she is here, threatened by bandits. I guess the casual player/reader will have sympathy for her, she's just a mother trying to get out of debt and protect her child from possible turmoil.
But does that make her situation any more special, especially against the background of the other characters in the game?
Edwin's mother has become a porn star to keep the family afloat after her husband's death. Hana's mother is also a porn star. Liza joined the club so her son could get into a prestigious university . Even a third-rate character like Harper mentions in a conversation with Edwin that she needs to pick up her son from the babysitter.
With that in mind, why should Rosalind get special treatment?
great chapter, as awlays.
sorry for any mistakes, not native speaker
With the introduction of Denise, players now have an example in front of their eyes of what might have happened to Felicia if she had continued to live her dream.
Some players now have an additional reason to love Felicia and become stronger in their desire to help her win, while others will become even more disappointed in her because she chose money over her dreams and pride.
On the other side we have Veronica, who literally went with fanatical perfectionism towards her dream of being a champion and opening a gym with her "exceptionally correct" methods and approaches to training process, that with each failure she only buried herself deeper and deeper, which led to breaking up with her wife, falling into a financial trap and ending up at The Club.
It would seem that with the last Carnation, Rosalind, everything would be on the surface - because of her husband's debts, she is here, threatened by bandits. I guess the casual player/reader will have sympathy for her, she's just a mother trying to get out of debt and protect her child from possible turmoil.
But does that make her situation any more special, especially against the background of the other characters in the game?
Edwin's mother has become a porn star to keep the family afloat after her husband's death. Hana's mother is also a porn star. Liza joined the club so her son could get into a prestigious university . Even a third-rate character like Harper mentions in a conversation with Edwin that she needs to pick up her son from the babysitter.
With that in mind, why should Rosalind get special treatment?
great chapter, as awlays.
sorry for any mistakes, not native speaker
Dear Internet, I look at that picture as a single male and the first thing that comes to my mind is "Louis Vuitton". Does that mean I'm gay...?
Interesting, only in my version the bike is a slightly more traditional chopper, black, and Mina is driving. Uhhh... wait, why does she have a handlebar mustache and when did this turn into a nightmare?!?
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Indeed. Still nice to have a friendly discussion even if one is unable to understand each others view.
To not be misunderstood: I'm not saying elias is a good husband. The game probably even paints it as him not saving the school to spite her. Its long since I played it. Just saying that on my moral compass there is still a big step between denying someone a wish and actively humiliating one's spouse in front of his peers.
Elias should have fel's full loyalty by marrying her. Its not the husbands job to go extra miles for his wife to be loyal. (Again, not talking about the potential agreement to extramarital sex.) "Happy wife happy life" is modern madness.
Rivals are social circle, no? Maybe wrong word from me then. Think peers.
They are, but the subject was fel. And still, its her who pushed her further towards corruption - playing the devil on the shoulder.
I mean its a porn game, who cares, but if we talk about the girls being good/bad...
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Just honing in on the aspect that gets whitewashed - also in the real world.
The only good being in PC is Edwins watch. lel
Nah, you just sound like an incel... but it's not like you're the only one... seems AVNs attract all sorts of "interesting" characters
They seem to be taking around 6 to 7 months at this point.
Also, the usual problem with AVNs, in terms of the amount of time it takes to update, is the render and animations queues... I think people falsely believe BaDIK takes a year because of mini-games and freeroams... it doesn't, if anything BaDIK's bloat right now is in DPC's insistance on making 60fps animations (which obviously doubles the amount of time needed per animation), which is retarded, but anyhow, that's not the case of PC, fortunately.
Yeah this "modern madness" of treating wives like humans as gotten out of hand...
What happened to the good olde days when the wife was the "property" of the husband?
A loyal wife would walk ten steps behind her husband without being told.
A chaste wife would thank her husband for being beaten every Friday whether she had done anything wrong or not...
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Oh, gotcha. Even though PC isn't a ludicrous spiderweb of branching plotlines, any VN with choices that vary the scenes we see will get wider as the story matures. So the update periods have to get longer or the updates have to get shorter on any particular path to maintain the same "area under the curve", unless we help the boys increase that area. Assuming CG work is the rate-limiting factor, I guess we could hire GIL a full-time live-in masseuse/maid/sexretary to take care of all his needs so he only stops working for sleep. If his wife objects, I guess we let Randomguy3478
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Quote where I attacked you personally. I never once called anyone a white knight kid. You are behaving like a lying petulant child so that's how I'm going to refer to you from now on.
EDIT: In fact congratulations on being the SECOND person I've ever put on the ignore list. That's quite a feat to make me do that as it has been an illustrious list of one for years.
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Updated
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-car...ovements-cheat-mod-vch4up4-shawnchapp.201421/
Change logs:
- Added more cheats and a stats screen (pics below), Cheats can be disabled in mod settings
- Added 2 more "mod option" to do multi scenes (both in prologue one in the disco and one at the end of the prologue)
- Fixed bug in prologue
Hope the stats screen turned out how people like it took a lot longer then i thought it would to get just right and its still not 100% or i wanted it (maybe when i get better at coding i can get to where i want it first time playing with viewports)
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