Hahahaha...it's a game...no girl you have a relationship meter with is out of the MC's league. Hell, the fact the MC gets Felicia to be willing to pay for sex with him makes that exceedingly clear.
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Well, that's a sad thing to hear. Personally, I like VN the most when it offers many routes and has many different point systems as a tool to guide you to a certain route. Or to have an immediate effect on the gameplay. Like toughness system which, to my surprise, doesn't have much of an impact on how Edwin speaks or behave and only has connection to a few dialog options despite how often the game gives or takes these points.
Do you really need to? It only makes sense for her route to have not-so-easy-to-pass type of gatekeeping as Veronica has the most antoganistic relationship with MC at the start of the game. It will also take away that rewarding feeling when you successfully manage to pass it, imo.
I think i get TD1900's point given the mention of ORS: the generic "relationship meters" which accumulate some small decisions but determine big outcomes can feel off when you fail to clear the threshold just by couple points. ORS uses different mechanic, where decisions you make influence directly what choices you can make down the road, regarding how relationships between characters shape out. This approach makes it easier to see connections between causes and effects, and the choices you make also feel more tangible and crucial. And it doesn't mean having less routes -- if there's one thing ORS deserves recognition for is the sheer number of routes (and combinations) it covers, between MCs and the other characters.
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Nothing really stops her and Edwin to become real girlfriend/boyfriend in future updates like Hana/Edwin can be now, right? I actually feel like what we have right now is some sort of fork and eventually we will have to choose new status of relationship. Preferably the one where Edwin and Mina like heroes of old bang every other chick in the game. Together. For Earth. For humanity
Is the mom really a slut or is that a lookalike? I've never decided to drop a game so fast in my life.
The MC's mom was in similar situation as the carnations when the MC was younger but she isn't anymore. None of the women at the club or that the MC is sexually involved with is his mother. There is no incest in this game...at least not yet. Hard to say what the future will bring but so far there has been no sexual inuendo between the MC and his mother and he hasn't had any sexual attraction or sexual feelings towards her.
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Not a whore and not a lookalike. She was as desperate and in need of financial support as those girls who are in Carnations club. She worked in the casting to pay off debts and help her son (Mc) for his future well-being and studies.
She does not do this anymore now, this story is partly what mothers have to go through to ensure the future of their children and everyone has a dark past.
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I wonder is Victoria is the reason some people drop the game at the start? 
I'm by no means a "vanilla" guy but anything related with her never made me disgusted or have a feeling of wanting to drop the game. The way her character is handled in the story is very well done imo.
In general I hear a lot of people say this game is too extreme and I've kinda never agreed with that, the only scene I disliked and felt a bit disgusted towards was Veronica's punishment during the first exhibition, but other than that the whole game is nothing too crazy and very enjoyable, hell it's got some more wholesome scenes than many other games that try to be as vanilla as possible.
I'm by no means a "vanilla" guy but anything related with her never made me disgusted or have a feeling of wanting to drop the game. The way her character is handled in the story is very well done imo.In general I hear a lot of people say this game is too extreme and I've kinda never agreed with that, the only scene I disliked and felt a bit disgusted towards was Veronica's punishment during the first exhibition, but other than that the whole game is nothing too crazy and very enjoyable, hell it's got some more wholesome scenes than many other games that try to be as vanilla as possible.
Maybe a stupid question but, can I just download and start with this version or are there links to Ch. 1 through Ch. 3 before I start this one?
Tried searching here but can only find Ch. 3 versions (I use Android).
Tried searching here but can only find Ch. 3 versions (I use Android).
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The version in the OP should contain every chapter. There are no separate versions for individual chapters as far as I know.
Honestly there seem to be a lot more people hoping to see more of Victoria, than there are people who might've dropped the game due to her.
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Not sure if my mind in completely blanking out right now but...who is Grace? I mean there are a ton of minor and side characters like Dalia, Nicolette, Harper, Sophia, etc. etc. but the name Grace rings zero bells and her name does not come up a single time in the game's guide at all.
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Grace is Killian's mom. The MC had a crush on her growing up. It's implied he still has a thing for her, but so far it only really comes up if you don't hook up with Hana after her big date.
Thanks for the reminder. I literally only saw her once in the game so far and completely forgot her name. I mean I did remember the whole event but only remembered her as Ian's mom, completely forgot her name.
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Im liking the theme setup, characters, animations, but. Why the fuck is the dialogue so wordy? Nobody talks like this, its kind of ruining the VN when a girl is dirty talking using words like hedonistic, saccharine tone, simulacrum. Sounds like the writer just randomly adds words. and then uses the synonym tool on Word to the most complicated word he finds. Im only in week 2 but its making it kind of a drag to get through. You could say its because its written as the inner dialogue of a nerdy med student, but even the girls sometimes talk with a bunch of wordspaghetti. Really hope it gets better
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Have question was MCs mom once apart of the organization he works for.