VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Simpgor]

hmmm, I remembered something that TD mentioned somewhere in dev diary around May that they were going to "smut up a side girl that we wanted for two years now".

any guesses from y'all who that might be? or do we already have an answer who's that mystery SG?

I can guess who at least one other person really really wants it to be but personally I cant think of any side girls that (I personally) would care about a scene with. I guess Ian's mom but less so for the scene itself and more for the potential ways it can go should you let Ian know about his mom's promise with Edwin. I am more interested in what scene TD said was a "serendipitous" creation and that got his "artistic brain working" . I cant even think who the scene is going to be with much less how it sets itself apart from what is already in the game to the point that he posted about it.

Yeah. NGL, while i've never thought "who talks like that" while playing the game, i have more than once wondered "who makes sounds like that" during the sex scenes

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[TD1900]

. I am more interested in what scene TD said was a "serendipitous" creation and that got his "artistic brain working" . I cant even think who the scene is going to be with much less how it sets itself apart from what is already in the game to the point that he posted about it.

One of the Rose branches. The first one we worked on.

Also, incidentally, the Kat scene we are finishing up right now is my new favorite scene. Funny how that works.

 

[Dr. Mick]

We know that August was involved in porn production before, and Edwin even asks his mother if she's heard of that man, but she seems to be unfamiliar with him.

Though if she did she would probably not tell the MC. I am curious where this story will go. The MC's mom heavily suspects even if she doesn't know and I am still extremely suspicious of Kathleen's intentions as she went to talk to the MC's mom...I would not put it beyond that sadistic cunt to drag mom into club some way or another(probably as some kind of guest as this doesn't seem to be the type of game that will have incest) and bring her face to face with her son there. Though now there is also the tape of the MC with Rosalind where she does say his name once too...that will almost certainly come back to bite MC in the ass.

Not sure about anyone else, but I'm hoping to keep the MC's mom away from any of the staff at the club; I don't trust them. For that matter, I'd like to keep her away from the guests too.
I think eventually the MC will have to tell his mom about the club, at least in a broad strokes type of explanation. My hope it that will come as part of the ending, after the MC has managed to get the club shut down. Though he may have to tell her something sooner, if only to keep her out of Chuck and Kat's clutches.
Granted it's a long way off. He still needs to find a way to prove what Chuck and Kat have done to get them ousted. Which will be difficult, both because they are good at covering their tracks, and because, as August has pointed out, there are a number of powerful people, including those in law enforcement, that frequent the club.

By the way, what tape are you talking about? The one from Rosalind's scene at the club? If so, those of us that chose to let Ian have that scene with her don't need to worry about that.

 

[Simpgor]

By the way, what tape are you talking about? The one from Rosalind's scene at the club? If so, those of us that chose to let Ian have that scene with her don't need to worry about that.

I haven't really thought of it this way but even if Edwin is in the video you can easily argue it's not "smart" for kathleen to show Victoria. Assuming for some reason Victoria plays a dvd that is either A.) Randomly delivered to her? Or B.) Given to her by someone she has talked on the phone with a single time (Victoria can't even recall her name with 100% certainty right?). I don't see a way (unless Edwin somehow keeps Ian out of it) that Victoria doesn't also learn about Ian being involved (and the "reason" Edwin is even there). That would ruin Ian and Victoria's relation/friendship which Ian obviously cares about. Meaning that Kat not only fucked with Edwin's head (after Chuck made her specifically say she understood not to) but also messed with his actual nephews head. All of this right before she makes a gambit that could lose her control of the club? (Or her life?). That doesn't really sound like a Kat move imo.

Having a tape that you can't verify its existence or what she is going to do with it if anything constantly hanging over you (without any actual threat to her) sounds more in her wheelhouse imo.

Edit: Also we know the stage area has a security camera so Kat could just send Victoria any number of tapes with Edwin being on stage no matter what choices the player makes

 

[pv7]

I actually find pleasure in the way writer choosing their words. To have an open dictionary while wading through meticulously crafted sentences might be somewhat grueling, yet one should not disregard the irrefutable positive effect this kind of spelling inflict. I hope you will be able to reconsider your deplorable stand and bask with us in cordial felling those words provide.

It is with profound regard for the gravity and complexity of the matter at hand that I declare my assent with all due solemnity.

 

[Dark479]

Not sure about anyone else, but I'm hoping to keep the MC's mom away from any of the staff at the club; I don't trust them. For that matter, I'd like to keep her away from the guests too.
I think eventually the MC will have to tell his mom about the club, at least in a broad strokes type of explanation. My hope it that will come as part of the ending, after the MC has managed to get the club shut down. Though he may have to tell her something sooner, if only to keep her out of Edwin and Kat's clutches.
Granted it's a long way off. He still needs to find a way to prove what Edwin and Kat have done to get them ousted. Which will be difficult, both because they are good at covering their tracks, and because, as August has pointed out, there are a number of powerful people, including those in law enforcement, that frequent the club.

By the way, what tape are you talking about? The one from Rosalind's scene at the club? If so, those of us that chose to let Ian have that scene with her don't need to worry about that.

The MC might not get the club shut down though...I suspect and expect that will be down to player choice. But if you think that we're not going have to deal with this stuff coming out before the ending and whatever you choose to do with the club, you're kidding yourself. MC's mom and Mina will almost certainly end up finding out about the club way before the end.

 

[dolfe67]

I wonder how MC could "shut down" the club... I don't think it's in the plan. He will either stay in the club or leave it imo.

 

[Simpgor]

I wonder how MC could "shut down" the club... I don't think it's in the plan. He will either stay in the club or leave it imo.

Not only would shutting it down be harder than leaving but shutting it down could also go "badly" for almost everyone involved even if it's kept hidden and no law enforcement is involved. The house girls would probably still be house girls just having to do it in "worse" (August's gangster buddy) places, the carnations are back at the start at best and things could go poorly for all of them should law enforcement get involved, even if they don't get in legal trouble Rose daughter could find out and mess up their relationship, Elias has actionable dirt on felica, Veronica struggling gym is unlikely to survive after a "sex scandal" breaks. Hell you could even argue Hana gets screwed over as without August (dead, jailed, on the run) her mother is not going to be getting much if any health care.

I guess Mina makes it out more or less okay other than basically every single one of her friends or people that have helped shaped her as an adult being involved in a secret sex club and not telling her

 

[Dark479]

I wonder how MC could "shut down" the club... I don't think it's in the plan. He will either stay in the club or leave it imo.

Personally I suspect the ending choices will come down to change of management or leaving the club. I think MC could help Hana or Felicia replace Kat or side with Kat...something along those lines.

 

[bo77om]

Also, incidentally, the Kat scene we are finishing up right now is my new favorite scene. Funny how that works.

ah, ramping up the suspense for the new update, good, good

 

[Babusfrisco123!]

So after playing a while, I just finished being a wingman for veronica.

I was wondering if cheating on Hana has effect on anything. My current playthrough I decided to be as authentic as possible and help everyone with everything while not cheating on Hana.

With that said my will power is dwindling because I happened to see the scenes if you decide to dance < kiss < go further with Veronica instead of playing wingman and let me say those scenes were bangers. I feel bad to miss out on great and deep dialogue with characters because I am Hana's boyfriend. She has barely any scenes in week 3.

 

[Simpgor]

So after playing a while. I just finished being a wingman for veronica. I was wondering if cheating on Hana has effect on anything. My current playthrough I decided to be as authentic as possible and help everyone with everything while not cheating on Hana.

With that said my will power is dwindling because I happened to see the scenes if you decide to dance < kiss < go further with Veronica instead of playing wingman and let me say those scenes were bangers. I feel bad to miss out on great and deep dialogue with characters because I am Hana's boyfriend. She has barely any scenes in week 3.

Currently there is nothing beyond some slight dialog (mostly internal iirc) if you cheat on Hana, but TD has said there will be exclusive stuff (for gf path) at some point so it would make sense that either then or at some other point there will be stuff if you cheat on her but probably not good stuff .

 

[Dark479]

So after playing a while, I just finished being a wingman for veronica.

I was wondering if cheating on Hana has effect on anything. My current playthrough I decided to be as authentic as possible and help everyone with everything while not cheating on Hana.

With that said my will power is dwindling because I happened to see the scenes if you decide to dance < kiss < go further with Veronica instead of playing wingman and let me say those scenes were bangers. I feel bad to miss out on great and deep dialogue with characters because I am Hana's boyfriend. She has barely any scenes in week 3.

Not yet but that is the mother of all Damocles swords to have hanging over the MC, just waiting to drop. The MC was right when he said that neither he nor Hana are ready for a proper relationship and Ian was right when he said that when this doesn't work the MC would still have to work with Hana. So I figured it was the best for the MC to just promise to be there for her but to leave it as a open relationship than committing to being her boyfriend...it just seems like the best course of action for everyone.

 

[lnppo]

Im liking the theme setup, characters, animations, but. Why the fuck is the dialogue so wordy? Nobody talks like this, its kind of ruining the VN when a girl is dirty talking using words like hedonistic, saccharine tone, simulacrum. Sounds like the writer just randomly adds words. and then uses the synonym tool on Word to the most complicated word he finds. Im only in week 2 but its making it kind of a drag to get through. You could say its because its written as the inner dialogue of a nerdy med student, but even the girls sometimes talk with a bunch of wordspaghetti. Really hope it gets better

being an ESL speaker myself i don't think this game using "big words" or writing in a verbose manner is an issue however reading onomatopoeic words every time during the intimate moments between characters for some reason sounds and feels weird

Yeah. NGL, while i've never thought "who talks like that" while playing the game, i have more than once wondered "who makes sounds like that" during the sex scenes

If the game was realistic, all the sex scenes would be written like this:

 

[Dr. Mick]

The MC might not get the club shut down though...I suspect and expect that will be down to player choice. But if you think that we're not going have to deal with this stuff coming out before the ending and whatever you choose to do with the club, you're kidding yourself. MC's mom and Mina will almost certainly end up finding out about the club way before the end.

I suspect you're probably right. Ideally I'd like to at least get rid of Chuck and Kat, eliminating the main negative influences.
I'd wondered how the MC would deal with it if/when his mom and Mina found out, since they seem to be the only two people close to him that don't already know. His mom will probably be okay, she will be a little shocked initially, but she loves and trusts him enough to not be mad. Plus he'll likely have to tell her what's going on in an attempt to keep her away from it.
As for Mina, I'm not sure how she'll react. As time goes on she becomes less and less innocent, and after meeting Hana and Felicia, and developing the friendships with them, it might not shock her as much. Time will tell, I suppose.

Personally I suspect the ending choices will come down to change of management or leaving the club. I think MC could help Hana or Felicia replace Kat or side with Kat...something along those lines.

If the change in management meant replacing August, Chuck, and Kat with Hana, Felicia, and the MC, so that they could run the club as they see fit, then that might work.
The club could still be about sex, exhibitionism, and similar taboo themes, without focusing on the humiliation, sadism, and threats.
There would likely be a shift in the clientele, but that wouldn't be a bad thing either considering how bad some of them are.

It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

 

[MoBy28]

I suspect you're probably right. Ideally I'd like to at least get rid of Edwin and Kat, eliminating the main negative influences.
I'd wondered how the MC would deal with it if/when his mom and Mina found out, since they seem to be the only two people close to him that don't already know. His mom will probably be okay, she will be a little shocked initially, but she loves and trusts him enough to not be mad. Plus he'll likely have to tell her what's going on in an attempt to keep her away from it.
As for Mina, I'm not sure how she'll react. As time goes on she becomes less and less innocent, and after meeting Hana and Felicia, and developing the friendships with them, it might not shock her as much. Time will tell, I suppose.

If the change in management meant replacing August, Edwin, and Kat with Hana, Felicia, and the MC, so that they could run the club as they see fit, then that might work.
The club could still be about sex, exhibitionism, and similar taboo themes, without focusing on the humiliation, sadism, and threats.
There would likely be a shift in the clientele, but that wouldn't be a bad thing either considering how bad some of them are.

It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

Just an FYI Edwin is the MC. You may be thinking of uncle Chuck.

 

[Dr. Mick]

Just an FYI Edwin is the MC. You may be thinking of uncle Chuck.

You are entirely correct, I was thinking of Chuck.

Sorry, I'm bad with names. Can still remember phone numbers I haven't called in decades, but couldn't tell you the name of half of my cousins. Gets a bit annoying at times.

Thanks for the correction.
(I went back up and edited my previous posts to make that correction. Appreciate it)

 

[pinuz1]

hmmm, I remembered something that TD mentioned somewhere in dev diary around May that they were going to "smut up a side girl that we wanted for two years now".

any guesses from y'all who that might be? or do we already have an answer who's that mystery SG?

I think, or rather, I hope it's Andrea, best house girl , and iirc TD mentioned her being his favorite one. So I'd say she has a decent shot at being the lucky side girl.

 

[camube]

I wonder how MC could "shut down" the club... I don't think it's in the plan. He will either stay in the club or leave it imo.

burn it?

i thought thats the point of the trait

 

[ffive]

burn it?

i thought thats the point of the trait

Continuing this train of thought, other ways to shut down the club will be to either get away with all their money, or to release nudes of August, Chuck and Kat to the public.