VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Ness99]

Hana seems really attached to the MC now, is open to doing things to please him.
I hope we will have the opportunity to exhibit it in public. Maybe on stage like Kathleen already did or during a game like at MC's birthday.

 

[Birdnman993]

yooo, so where is that 'scuffed makeup' Hanna wanted, not gonna lie im kinda disappointed.
Guess MC failed yet again, going to need a re-try to give lady what she wants.

Amen bro, half as exciting as using a mouth as a Onehole is the messed up face when you're done.

 

[ffive]

Right? Poor Hanna. I guess it was an oversight, he made Felicia's makeup run from a face fucking. Though I'd be happy to try again.

spoiler: Hana's makeup is permanent and she's just yanking Edwin's chain.

 

[Takkatakka]

Right? Poor Hanna. I guess it was an oversight, he made Felicia's makeup run from a face fucking. Though I'd be happy to try again.

I mean the idea is to do it without anybody noticing. So if her make-up would run, that would be kinda difficult.

 

[Fapparition]

I mean the idea is to do it without anybody noticing. So if her make-up would run, that would be kinda difficult.

Idk maybe they would be able to weasel out of it by saying something like "Edwin told me a funny joke so I've teared up from laughing thus ruined makeup"

 

[ffive]

Idk maybe they would be able to weasel out of it by saying something like "Edwin told me a funny joke so I've teared up from laughing thus ruined makeup"

Oh yeah, like anyone in a brothel of all places is going to be inexperienced enough not to tell what that look is really from.

 

[Zod666]

I mean the idea is to do it without anybody noticing. So if her make-up would run, that would be kinda difficult.

Pretty sure showers/bathrooms as well as makeup are readily available in brothels. Not like Hanna had to follow MC to Chuck right away anyway.

 

[GigglingCock]

does anyone have a compile of those arts or images that show up when transitioning scenes?

 

[Ciaran8023]

Well, this didn't last long for me.
Been seeing this all over the place, hearing it being hyped up for literal years so I decided to give it a shot and.. let's just say that I'm so fucking allergic against Kathleen that I can't get past the initial part of the game, nor am I a fan of MC's getting played like a puppet on a string. Kind of wish that there was a notice for unavoidable sub-par blackmail femdom bullshit.

Ah, genuinely a shame. The models, renders and scene framing all look top notch and the writing (from what I saw) looked on par with the rest so I can see why this game is hyped, that's for sure. Just absolutely, unequivocally wasn't for me and I suppose I am glad that I got notified of that early on rather than halfway through the game, so there's that I suppose.

 

[Birdnman993]

Well, this didn't last long for me.
Been seeing this all over the place, hearing it being hyped up for literal years so I decided to give it a shot and.. let's just say that I'm so fucking allergic against Kathleen that I can't get past the initial part of the game, nor am I a fan of MC's getting played like a puppet on a string. Kind of wish that there was a notice for unavoidable sub-par blackmail femdom bullshit.

Ah, genuinely a shame. The models, renders and scene framing all look top notch and the writing (from what I saw) looked on par with the rest so I can see why this game is hyped, that's for sure. Just absolutely, unequivocally wasn't for me and I suppose I am glad that I got notified of that early on rather than halfway through the game, so there's that I suppose.

She is literally the villain of the game, it may not be possible but hopefully at some point we can hit her where it hurts the most, who knows?

 

[Ciaran8023]

She is literally the villain of the game, it may not be possible but hopefully at some point we can hit her where it hurts the most, who knows?

Seems pretty unlikely given how everything seemingly revolves around her, but then again, I would rather pour broken glass into a fleshlight and fuck it before seeing another scene with her so I guess that mystery will forever be unsolved by me.

 

[TD1900]

does anyone have a compile of those arts or images that show up when transitioning scenes?

If you unren the game, you can find them in the "game\images\misc\transitions" sub directory.

Kind of wish that there was a notice for unavoidable sub-par blackmail femdom bullshit.

The project has like next to no femdom. Edwin's almost always on the controlling end of things, or rather, serving as a cog for the controlling side of things. Hell, there's a couple of optional scenes where he gives it to Kathy good. I suppose getting on stage and performing at Kathleen's behest has a tinge of humiliation to it, he is selling himself for money, but its hard to see it that way from the dick swinging perspective of the middle man on the totem pole.

I'm guessing it is either the handjob or the (optional) fivesome that upset you. Those being the outliers.

Either way, the fact remains that Kathleen is a prominent figure in the story, so probably a good call to move on. Thanks for trying.

 

[Simpgor]

Seems pretty unlikely given how everything seemingly revolves around her, but then again, I would rather pour broken glass into a fleshlight and fuck it before seeing another scene with her so I guess that mystery will forever be unsolved by me.

it does not revolve around her anymore than any story revolves around an antagonist, in fact Edwin already had a chance to literally grab her by the head and fuck her until she couldn't stand/reject her on multiple occasions, hell even multiple of her peers "shit talk" her to her face

However it seems like you want a game that has a chad alpha mc thats dick is real big and always wins at everything and unfortunately you are right as Edwin is only a chad alpha mc thats dick is real big and always wins at 5/6 routes (anything other than 100% dommination in every interaction is a loss)

The project has like next to no femdom.

first you force (as in there being an option) to eat girls out and then we cant even visually ruin hanas makeup while her confirmed murderous gangster father is 5 feet away in the next room! its all femdom!

 

[Ciaran8023]

The project has like next to no femdom.

I mean.. buddy.. the first actual scene to get with Kathleen is her drugging you and forcefully jacking you off, noting that he has to do it because he signed on to work after all. As I said, would be great if there was a disclaimer for sub-par blackmail bullshit because that's literally what it was.
MC had to go through something sexual, while drugged, and couldn't refuse.

Edwin's almost always on the controlling end of things, or rather, serving as a cog for the controlling side of things. Hell, there's a couple of optional scenes where he gives it to Kathy good. I suppose getting on stage and performing at Kathleen's behest has a tinge of humiliation to it, he is selling himself for money, but its hard to see it that way from the dick swinging perspective of the middle man on the totem pole.

Cool. Again, doesn't really mean much when you start out with the worst example of femdom and the type I generally despise as I'm someone who's actually into that shit.

I'm guessing it is the handjob that upset you. Those being the outliers.

Yeah, you nailed it on that one. I will say that it's probably a good idea to put that at the start so people who aren't into getting blackmailed or non-consensual femdom can get out without sinking hours into a playthrough.

Either way, the fact remains that Kathleen is a prominent figure in the story, so probably a good call to move on. Thanks for trying.

That's entirely fair. As I said, it's a shame as the rest of the game looks to be extremely solid in terms of basically everything that tends to matter in an AVN, but to each their own and I just couldn't vibe with it. If there's another game in the pipeline sometime then I'll be sure to check that out aswell, I might be put off entirely by this game but I can recognize skill as a dev when I see it.

it does not revolve around her anymore than any story revolves around an antagonist, in fact Edwin already had a chance to literally grab her by the head and fuck her until she couldn't stand/reject her on multiple occasions, hell even multiple of her peers "shit talk" her to her face

Which goes to say that it revolves around her a lot, as it's a foil for the protagonist which has the most screentime. Moreover, I was also talking about her position within the club/corporation/skinwalker assembly or whatever it is, she's obviously a pretty pivotal point lorewise given her connections to the people within the club and that she's an OG.

However it seems like you want a game that has a chad alpha mc thats dick is real big

Brother, I don't care about your projection, all I want is to not have to deal with such dogshit examples of femdom that's literally the opposite of femdom.
An integral part of femdom or any kinkplay is consent, Kathleen is just a power-tripping thundercunt who stops at nothing to have her little puppets to play with, THAT is what I am vehemently against. This is something you also would've understood if you actually read my post instead of knee-jerk reacting when someone dissed your favourite little thing.

Here's a lesson for life; when people dislike what you like, it isn't a personal attack on you, in fact no one actually cares at all so there's no need for you to defend or try to otherwise jump to personal attacks to begin with, shit's childish as fuck.

 

[Simpgor]

claiming to understand devs game better than they do (as well as the vast majority of readers) despite admitting to not reading past the first update

Spoiler: less suprising than youd think!

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[Ciaran8023]

claiming to understand devs game better than they do (as well as the vast majority of readers) despite admitting to not reading past the first update

Who the fuck said anything about "understanding the game"?
Despite you being obviously passive aggressive, it would take someone with terminal brain damage to not recognize poorly veiled blackmail and a shitty attempt at femdom. I also now realize why you are under the impression that it doesn't exist.

You're not going to win any favours with anyone by acting like a child, but you do you buddy, gonna drop you on the ignore list since you're obviously not the type of person who will ever get within a fraction of understanding that opposing opinions isn't a personal attack and the devs (and mods) deserve better than having to deal with your bullshit. They don't get paid enough to do that.

 

[ffive]

Cool. Again, doesn't really mean much when you start out with the worst example of femdom and the type I generally despise as I'm someone who's actually into that shit.

Wait, your idea of "worst example of femdom" is a woman jacking a guy off?

Or is that "worst" as in, "the sort i like the least"? I admit i'm confused, is your actual complaint not that there's femdom per se, but that it's the kind you dislike and you want different sort of it, instead?

edit:

Kathleen is just a power-tripping thundercunt who stops at nothing to have her little puppets to play with, THAT is what I am vehemently against.

OK, so i'm afraid the bad news is that Kathleen isn't really a dominatrix in the classic sense you appear to be fan of, big on consent and all. She is a sadist who gets off on breaking people who never signed up for it. Or, as you put it, the power-tripping thundercunt.

She does get some comeuppance as the story goes on, but if you can't stand this sort of character --and i perfectly get why you'd feel this way-- then i'm afraid she isn't really avoidable.

 

[Simpgor]

Wait, your idea of "worst example of femdom" is a woman jacking a guy off?

Or is that "worst" as in, "the sort i like the least"? I admit i'm confused, is your actual complaint not that there's femdom per se, but that it's the kind you dislike and you want different sort of it, instead?

I think they kept saying "sub par" they meant that it was poorly done? Like Kathleen drugging and blackmailing(?) Edwin was a bad/weak example of the act of female domination? Since they seemed ok with the stuff kathleen was doing to girls up to that point, and how "colorful" their language is in relation to things they rather do it kind of comes off as "bad because it happened to me!" IMO

Either way its a weird take to drop a game they admit is good, have been told by multiple people that the scene in question is an outlier because of assumptions that are objectivity wrong like kathleens prevalence past the literal first update, or her standing in the club

 

[TD1900]

Cool. Again, doesn't really mean much when you start out with the worst example of femdom and the type I generally despise as I'm someone who's actually into that shit.

For the record, the femdom tag is there cause of all the lezdom. If you tried it on that basis, then there's an even better reason to be put off because in no way you'll be satisfied content-wise, questionable example or no.

 

[Birdnman993]

That's entirely fair. As I said, it's a shame as the rest of the game looks to be extremely solid in terms of basically everything that tends to matter in an AVN, but to each their own and I just couldn't vibe with it. If there's another game in the pipeline sometime then I'll be sure to check that out aswell, I might be put off entirely by this game but I can recognize skill as a dev when I see it.

That's very sad to hear but I understand, the game can be uncomfortable for some people.

Brother, I don't care about your projection, all I want is to not have to deal with such dogshit examples of femdom that's literally the opposite of femdom.
An integral part of femdom or any kinkplay is consent, Kathleen is just a power-tripping thundercunt who stops at nothing to have her little puppets to play with, THAT is what I am vehemently against. This is something you also would've understood if you actually read my post instead of knee-jerk reacting when someone dissed your favourite little thing.

That's precisely what I'm telling you: she's a total villain and she must be put down. Her pleasure is the suffering of others and not a give-and-take relationship, the most perverse version of a sadist, and the MC can become someone as sadistic as her or can try to look after the well-being of the participants, get to know them better and form a genuine friendship in the process.