VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Takkatakka]

oh he doesn't blame anyone else, that's obvious from his conversations. I think what bothers him is after some self-reflection he realizes what kind of person he is. Probably not enough to change himself for the better, but who knows.

Right now he doesn't...which would be a first step, I guess. But if he would find out what's going on between Edwin and Mina?

Because he has always been the one who leaves. Now he is the one who has been left.

Simple as that.

Yeah, might be as well...

 

[Ozymandias037]

oh he doesn't blame anyone else, that's obvious from his conversations. I think what bothers him is after some self-reflection he realizes what kind of person he is. Probably not enough to change himself for the better, but who knows.

I agree with this. It's pretty clear IMO that Ian realizes that he treated Mina terribly and feels kind of bad about it, and at some level he understands that their relationship was never going to last because he was treating her bad.

I think there's also a certain amount of self-hate and/or self-sabotage going on, whether or not Ian is aware of it. His dialog reads to me like he feels, somewhere deep inside, that Mina deserves better than him, so he lies and cheats and pushes her away. But he also recognizes how good she is, and somewhere inside him he's mourning not only their relationship, but the fact that he is the one who destroyed it because Mina was too good for him. Hence Edwin's mention of self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Ottoeight]

oh he doesn't blame anyone else, that's obvious from his conversations. I think what bothers him is after some self-reflection he realizes what kind of person he is. Probably not enough to change himself for the better, but who knows.

This, too.

The Ian storyline has two variants:

- your "best buddies" score is really high, therefore you can trigger the option and tell him that he needs to self-reflect: he will sleep with his maid, this way;
- you won't/can't tell him that he needs to self-reflect: he will sleep with the hairdresser, this way.

 

[Takkatakka]

This, too.

The Ian storyline has two variants:

- your "best buddies" score is really high, therefore you can trigger the option and tell him that he needs to self-reflect: he will sleep with his maid, this way;
- you won't/can't tell him that he needs to self-reflect: he will sleep with the hairdresser, this way.

So...if he self-reflects he hooks up with the person who is slightly closer to him? Is that the difference here?