Hi! Actually no, it isn´t a forced attempt. It is established throughout the game that Vicki was more of a Mom to Ian than Grace ever was. For Grace Ian to this day is more a pawn than a son. The precious few love he got was from Vicki and Alice. Part of why Ian is so fucked up is that Grace is colder than Dr. Lundgren.
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We could talk about sacrifice if Victoria took another job and worked as a waitress for example (besides her day job), this on the other hand makes her a dirty whore. She had so many options, including selling her house and even moving away or asking for help her or her husband's parents (we don't know much about them, only that they didn't have good relations, well maybe they didn't want to have anything to do with a whore or Victoria preferred to become a whore than begging them for help) but she chose the path most enjoyable for her and most risky.
It's one thing that she tried porn to earn some money (that's what first 4 times were for), it's another when she actively sought out more "prestigious" studios after all that, knowing perfectly well that the more prominent studio the more likely it is kids at school would find out about it giving Edwin hell. During the interview with Don it's heavily implied that she does it for the money and her own pleasure. A role model mom, right?
But I'm repeating myself:
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-public-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15782638
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-public-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15782895
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-public-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15783163
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-public-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15783407
Why would a porn movie studio that's less of a shithole mean it's easier for Victoria to be found out? Do you think mid-schoolers from Edwin's school get together to watch connoisseur porn movies, sipping champagne and popping their monocles at particularly raunchy scenes? Or that their parents do, and then tell their kids in detail what a mother of one of their classmates is up to? That is all presuming any of them even know what Victoria looks like, much less make a connection?
Thank you to each of you for your responses. They are appreciated and quite interesting in how similar they really are. Although a quality made product will probably create that. Knowing that the next update is likely a bit of time away, I shall give it a try. As for the woodchuck I can not comment on that matter at this moment.
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A classmate, why not. I knew a lot of parents when I was at school. The bullying would be terrible. And after all, Edwin found out. I guess not everyone could handle it so coolly. The question is whether a mother shouldn't be aware of these possible consequences and what it would mean if the answer to the question was yes.
I would like to suggest that Vicky is the opposite of Felicia
Both women use their looks/body to get money.
Both women lead a life in the public eye.
Both women have no education.
We gradually get information about both women that greatly changes the original picture of them.
For me, both go in the opposite direction of my initial perception.
Felicia's actions are becoming more and more understandable to me. On the other hand, my image of Victoria is becoming more and more shaky the more I deal with the Donovan interview.
The question remains whether Vicky didn't have other options. That will probably never be answered. (For example, Mina's path. As Donovan notes, she isn't interested in showing her beauty, otherwise she wouldn't need to continue,implies that) But if that point were to be dropped, how would we have to see her in comparison to the Li's.
Both women use their looks/body to get money.
Both women lead a life in the public eye.
Both women have no education.
We gradually get information about both women that greatly changes the original picture of them.
For me, both go in the opposite direction of my initial perception.
Felicia's actions are becoming more and more understandable to me. On the other hand, my image of Victoria is becoming more and more shaky the more I deal with the Donovan interview.
The question remains whether Vicky didn't have other options. That will probably never be answered. (For example, Mina's path. As Donovan notes, she isn't interested in showing her beauty, otherwise she wouldn't need to continue,implies that) But if that point were to be dropped, how would we have to see her in comparison to the Li's.
In my humble opinion say that Vicky is the opposite of Felicia, is like say that a battle tank is the opposite of a battleship. They are different weapons, with different purupose for different scenarios; even if both of them have cannons, diesel engines and are made by steel. At the same way Felicia and Victoria share some (very superficial) similarities, but they are different characters, with different mindset, different purpose and different role.
Does this mean they are opposite to each other? No, simply they are different or (if you prefer) yes, they are opposite to each other like they are opposite to Rosalind or to Veronica.
Does this mean they are opposite to each other? No, simply they are different or (if you prefer) yes, they are opposite to each other like they are opposite to Rosalind or to Veronica.
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Sophia is pretty much the opposite of cold, she makes me sweat out of every pore when she cradles me in her arms, jacking me off while holding a needle to my neck. So hot.
My man is out here calling MC's mom a tank. No respect left in the youth.
Different characters, yes, they all have them, but it's about the decisions they make. Different ways of thinking in relation to what? Both like sex, both live it out, both do it for the money? All Li's have different goals. But that's exactly the point. The comparison to Vicky's decision.
Actually she was the battleship.My man is out here calling MC's mom a tank. No respect left in the youth.
Meantime, i maybe knew what a few of them looked like, those who happened to be parents of friends. And as we know Edwin didn't really have any friends at school, other than Ian. So i'd say it's highly doubtful there were many kids at Edwin's school that even knew what his mom looked like, much less actually knew her.
We don't know when Edwin found that out (or how) but i don't think it was in mid school. And evidently none of his classmates in mid school, high school and university found out, or if any of them did they didn't think it's something that's worth making a public matter and something to bully Edwin over. Which makes the whole handwringing how horrible prospect it is and how irresponsible of Victoria... rather toothless and overblown.
I would say, for me Sophia is the polar opposite of Felicia. The later is driven mostly by passion, the former is driven by cold calculation. Both are very beautiful and intelligent. Both are equally immoral. Both are ready to go to all lengths (or depths) to get what they want. But still so different...
I think it can be safely said that Felicia is at least to some extent driven by cold calculation too, otherwise she wouldn't have picked a "career" of a trophy wife over pursuing actual career as a painter. But yes, nowhere to the extent of Sophia.
Correct, but by now she seems to regret that she gave up the world of art, emotions and passion. That's why she acts so recklessly.
I mean, if people in this thread are able to think about it, why do you think the very person most affected by it somehow wouldn't be aware of this possibility and didn't think about it? It could've very well been what you admit -- that the scenario of Victoria being found out was unlikely, that Victoria has also estimated it as unlikely, and as such decided it was low enough risk that she took it.
I don't agree with you.
Ok, in our case it's rather unlikely that an acquaintance will find out. But do you think she thought about it beforehand, my son hardly has any friends so it probably won't come out? Just because things have been going well so far doesn't make the decision any better. You have to be aware of the possible consequences of your actions, right? Shit happens