Leinad_Sevla

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All I know is the next update is probably gonna make me feel bad. Guys, I don't think I am cut out to be a sociopathic sadist. Help manage prostitutes? Sure. Help with the Kathy's fucked up exhibition? I kind of suck at that.
I feel the same. My favourite part of the game is everything outside the exhibition. I do not like that Kathleen and I do my best to go against her.
 

Dactess

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I feel the same. My favourite part of the game is everything outside the exhibition. I do not like that Kathleen and I do my best to go against her.

Yeah I see that part as a job and a way to put me in Edwins shoes. Experience the conflict of having to work there or whatever. How much can I (as Edwin) take or stomach. How much will it effect the relationships Ive tried to have Edwin build with the carnations and what not. Like it adds that conflict to the game, that drama. So I dislike the exhibitions because they aren't for me, but I like that they add that dynamic to the story, If you get what I mean.

I'm sure week 3 will be hard to do if you are trying to keep the job and friendships. Maybe. Someone is gonna get upset.

But then what's their to even fall for in this game? It's kinda mandatory to fall for those girls if you want to continue playing this game except Felicia maybe.

And btw did you just said the carnations situation is NTS for Edwin?
Funny cause Felicia is the one I kind of started to fall for after the art exabit and the night at her favorite spot lol

I kind of meant it more as if you hate ntr or sharing or whatever then just be sure not to fall for the, as Kathleen would put it, "whores" and you should be fine.

And no I wouldn't say it is technically NTS but I don't really know much about that beyond it is sharing. Felicia might be Netori depending on their direction. I mean Edwin isn't in a relationship with any of them atm and you are shown early on what might happen with them during the exhibition, so maybe there will be "sharing" with them, I am referring to the usb Kathleen gives Edwin that has the last carnations having a train ran on them.

And well isn't it sharing even if it is with female characters? You can share with Ian, Kathleen uses a massive dildo on Veronica. Week two punishment involves the carnations playing with each other. With Hana and Mina, you can avoid a lot of the stuff, but with the carnations, due to their circumstances, they might end up having to get with other ppl was my point. They are trying to win and have shown that they are willing to try anything, so just keep expectations in check with them for the month of June at least, (in game)

And well Mina and Hana can carry this relationship wise lol The carnations add a different kind of relationship for me. You know what they are there to do. I am not saying you can't potentially end up with one of them, but for the moment it adds characters that maybe you shouldn't fall for. They are essentially prostitutes or sex workers. How far will you go for their friendship, can they even see Edwin as a friend or maybe even something more. How much will they forgive. That kind of thing. It adds a nice dynamic, sees how far the player will go for the job, how much they can ignore or embrace. Eh I am rambling at this point.


Harems are dumb. The hole to pole ratio is too damn high.
Thus spoke Zarathustra.



That, and it's a nod that the scene is Mina rolling solo dolo / doesn't include Edwin.
I'm not the biggest fan of harems because they don't always fit, they aren't realistic.. but some games I don't mind them, as shown by my signature lol

(referring to the lesbian push) That is fair and answers my question from earlier. I didn't even think that it was there to just say it is only between veronica and mina. I was just thinking it had some far reaching consequences so I was iffy to try it lol. Well and I have a slight parasocial relationship with Mina that causes me to feel that pang of jealously when it comes to Veronica lol Maybe cause she is a bit too masculine in and out of the bedroom. Probably something to unpack there emotionally for me but whatever
 
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I really respect that the game deliberately builds toward an uncomfortable conflict between characters. In a genre where player satisfaction is typically prized above all else, it's cool that Pale Carnations just does its own thing instead.

Disclaimer: I am one of the (I imagine few?) people doing the Scott Pilgrim-esque route of going for both Mina and Hana the wrong way, because I kind of just want to see how it blows up in Edwin's face first before doing the more proper fabled threesome route.
 

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Harems are dumb. The hole to pole ratio is too damn high.
Thus spoke Zarathustra.
Not all harem games are that dumpies, but I understand your opinion especially because of the obsessive harem fans, the same goes for NTR fans...
but some harem games are made pretty well, the problem with harem genres is that most developers don't know how to do it and suddenly make the same boring plot with 5-10 girls and meaningless fucking!

Harem games also need clear plans and plots with a little difficulty, tension and competition between girls because of jealousy, and then slowly they come to terms with it and not just like that "show a bigdick with one click and all the girls are yours"
 
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Not all harem games are that dumpies, but I understand your opinion especially because of the obsessive harem fans, the same goes for NTR fans...
but some harem games are made pretty well, the problem with harem genres is that most developers don't know how to do it and suddenly make the same boring plot with 5-10 girls and meaningless fucking!

Harem games also need clear plans and plots with a little difficulty, tension and competition between girls because of jealousy, and then slowly they come to terms with it and not just like that "show a bigdick with one click and all the girls are yours"
I'm not the biggest fan of Harem games, but I liked a few in which the Harem is on the smaller side. Like you said, it's really hard to make them even "semi-realistic", maybe in a fantasy or medieval game. That's why I prefer throuple relationships to pure Harems; while not the norm, at least they can be found in the real world, and it's easier to make them appear natural.


As for obsessive Harem fans, and I'm talking as someone who dislikes NTR, nothing makes me laugh more than when they complain about LIs already in the Harem interacting among themselves. They perceive sex between girls (with or without the MC present) as cheating and constantly complain about the MC being NTR'd. :KEK:
 
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I'm not the biggest fan of Harem games, but I liked a few in which the Harem is on the smaller side. Like you said, it's really hard to make them even "semi-realistic", maybe in a fantasy or medieval game. That's why I prefer throuple relationships to pure Harems; while not the norm, at least they can be found in the real world, and it's easier to make them appear natural.


As for obsessive Harem fans, nothing makes me laugh more than when they complain about LI interacting among themselves. They perceive sex between girls (with or without MC present) as cheating and constantly complain about MC being NTR'd. :KEK:
That’s just gals being pals.
 
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MAGO-DAG

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I'm not the biggest fan of Harem games, but I liked a few in which the Harem is on the smaller side. Like you said, it's really hard to make them even "semi-realistic", maybe in a fantasy or medieval game. That's why I prefer throuple relationships to pure Harems; while not the norm, at least they can be found in the real world, and it's easier to make them appear natural.


As for obsessive Harem fans, and I'm talking as someone who dislikes NTR, nothing makes me laugh more than when they complain about LIs already in the Harem interacting among themselves. They perceive sex between girls (with or without the MC present) as cheating and constantly complain about the MC being NTR'd. :KEK:
I am also 100% not a fan of harems, I usually try to avoid things like harem/ntr discussion... I am mostly a fan of things like half corruption harem with a little vanilla mixed in.
It all depends on taste and variety.

Would say I am mostly a fan of Netori, but unfortunately such genres are underrated, sometimes I want to play a game where Mc with an antagonist nature corrupts other people's girls or wives... but I'm me, that's my taste lol :HideThePain: :Kappa:
 
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Anyway...

guys, I can't see any harem tag over there next to the game title, so... the question is: why talking about it?

If you have been reading this VN in these years you should have realised since a lot of time that this story and harem are like oil and water: they just don't mix.
 

Dactess

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They perceive sex between girls (with or without the MC present) as cheating and constantly complain about the MC being NTR'd. :KEK:
Yeah NTR to me is just stealing, cheating, jealousy. But I do see some people lose it when they see 2 Li's look at each other or there is a male friend in a game lol. I mean if there is a Lesbian character straight trying to steal a LI from the mc and making moves then yeah that's NTR but that's usually not the case.

I haven't really seen anything in Pale Carnations that would suggest that to me though. I mean the hoes ain't loyal but they are hoes.

Although, I did slightly agree with Edwin during the threesome when he had that thought about Mina screaming Felicia's name... but there was an easy fix to that. And well Veronica makes me insecure so I gotta keep Mina away from her, but Hana is fine.


Anyway...

guys, I can't see any harem tag over there next to the game title, so... the question is: why talking about it?
Someone responded to a post I made and they said a harem wouldn't work in this game. Which I'd like to point out that I in no way brought a harem ending up, I was just talking about a lesbian push for Mina.

I said I agree with them and that I think harems only work in fantastical settings.

And well, the flames spread. At least I think.
 

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That last Kath scene was absolutely... Disappointing.

All that sh1t to end up in a doggystyle from such an terrible angle, and we only got that position with her.

I was so excited to see her scene when I first saw the thumbnail in the memories, thinking we would see a missionary.... But, damn, such a waste.

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That last Kath scene was absolutely... Disappointing.

All that sh1t to end up in a doggystyle from such an terrible angle, and we only got that position with her.

I was so excited to see her scene when I first saw the thumbnail in the memories, thinking we would see a missionary.... But, damn, such a waste.

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There will be more to come (in two or three updates, I guess :HideThePain:)
 

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That last Kath scene was absolutely... Disappointing.

All that sh1t to end up in a doggystyle from such an terrible angle, and we only got that position with her.

I was so excited to see her scene when I first saw the thumbnail in the memories, thinking we would see a missionary.... But, damn, such a waste.

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I’m hoping the goth outfit she wore for this scene is foreshadowing a Kathleen, Hana, and Edwin let’s make up and get on the same page 3some. Then we can get into science on which one has the better ass (Kathleen.):sneaky:
 
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