Added more mod options, based on routes picked example doing both Hana and Mina visit (only available if you stay with Mina at the rockshow and kissed her and didn't dance on stage)
Added option to see all final girls scene in the freeroam part 3 (must enable cheat, and pick the girl you want the game to register as your choice first)
Fixed bugs and typos on all past script files
updated mode ui to split girls/guys as character list getting larger.
Gah, a little frustrating that only Edwin who is on Felicia's romance path gets option to give her "sort of a warning" before the show. You would think that maxed out friendship could also account for something. ._.
Also, game should be probably checking variable bounds at this point, or it ends up a bit silly:
Kat's persuasiveness literally broke Hana's mind there.
Also also, Lucy got a rotten hand this update, having her sex scene mutually exclusive with both Felicia *and* Hana hangouts.
And as final point, Turret help me but Sophia was too cute for her own good.
How do I get both Hana and Mina ? What are the conditions ? Willing to do new save. Previous update (was it ?) There supposed to be a scene with both of them, but I didnt get. Am following HanaGF route and having fun with every gal.
Happy Chapter 4 Update 6 everyone! I've played through a solid chunk of the game now (though it's sufficiently varied that I don't I've seen everything), so it's time to figure out how I feel about it. I think on a narrative level, it's extremely good. There are a lot of moving parts here, but they fit together well and more importantly they come together to sell a pivotal moment of the story in unmistakable style. And as I all to often fail to mention, the art is fantastic, always highlighting the feelings of the various characters and finding clever ways to frame the action.
However, as good as the story and character work is, I do feel like the gameplay lets it down a bit because for all the choices available to us, the update is unavoidably about the cruel hedonism that is the Carnation Club. That's not to say there are no moments of levity or sincere tenderness; there are, and some of them are quite good. But those moments are short, isolated, and all too often restricted to very specific paths. Most importantly, though, almost none of those moments do anything to second guess Kathleen's attitude in her moment of triumph, and that definitely stings.
The end result is a good update that I didn't enjoy playing. Of course, given my laughably vanilla tastes I think it's fair to say I was never going to find this update fun. But even in comparison to previous Exhibitions, it didn't feel like my actions made much difference this time, at least not within the Exhibition. I don't know if that's a result of splitting the Exhibition into two parts or me wanting to get the "belly of the whale" portion over as soon as possible - or maybe I've been misreading where the story was going the whole time. We'll have to see what happens next. For now, I'd say I liked the update, but not as much as I was hoping.
So much for the generalities, let's get down to brass tacks.
Okay, I think that does it for this update. Hopefully we'll be back again before too long to wrap up Chapter 4.
tl;dr A good update with lots of plot progression and plenty of lewd content, but not a lot of variety for those who don't like the Club's brand of entertainment
How do I get both Hana and Mina ? What are the conditions ? Willing to do new save. Previous update (was it ?) There supposed to be a scene with both of them, but I didnt get. Am following HanaGF route and having fun with every gal.
Depends on what you mean by "get". Up until now, you can be on the GF route and still mess around with anyone and everyone, Mina included. But if you are referring to a future H+M threesome/throuple, that requires choosing fuckbuddies instead of BF/GF. Plus encouraging Mina's bi tendencies.
The scene you are (probably) thinking of happens after the concert, if you are not on GF route and have concentrated on Mina (and Hana) during the concert. Check walkthrough for details.
It could be as simple as a combination of doing something easy that effectively curbs her a favor with "middle manager" she can cash in later, and actually enjoying some drugs herself?
Depends on what you mean by "get". Up until now, you can be on the GF route and still mess around with anyone and everyone, Mina included. But if you are referring to a future H+M threesome/throuple, that requires choosing fuckbuddies instead of BF/GF. Plus encouraging Mina's bi tendencies.
The scene you are (probably) thinking of happens after the concert, if you are not on GF route and have concentrated on Mina (and Hana) during the concert. Check walkthrough for details.
Happy Chapter 4 Update 6 everyone! I've played through a solid chunk of the game now (though it's sufficiently varied that I don't I've seen everything), so it's time to figure out how I feel about it. I think on a narrative level, it's extremely good. There are a lot of moving parts here, but they fit together well and more importantly they come together to sell a pivotal moment of the story in unmistakable style. And as I all to often fail to mention, the art is fantastic, always highlighting the feelings of the various characters and finding clever ways to frame the action.
However, as good as the story and character work is, I do feel like the gameplay lets it down a bit because for all the choices available to us, the update is unavoidably about the cruel hedonism that is the Carnation Club. That's not to say there are no moments of levity or sincere tenderness; there are, and some of them are quite good. But those moments are short, isolated, and all too often restricted to very specific paths. Most importantly, though, almost none of those moments do anything to second guess Kathleen's attitude in her moment of triumph, and that definitely stings.
The end result is a good update that I didn't enjoy playing. Of course, given my laughably vanilla tastes I think it's fair to say I was never going to find this update fun. But even in comparison to previous Exhibitions, it didn't feel like my actions made much difference this time, at least not within the Exhibition. I don't know if that's a result of splitting the Exhibition into two parts or me wanting to get the "belly of the whale" portion over as soon as possible - or maybe I've been misreading where the story was going the whole time. We'll have to see what happens next. For now, I'd say I liked the update, but not as much as I was hoping.
So much for the generalities, let's get down to brass tacks.
Okay, I think that does it for this update. Hopefully we'll be back again before too long to wrap up Chapter 4.
tl;dr A good update with lots of plot progression and plenty of lewd content, but not a lot of variety for those who don't like the Club's brand of entertainment
I'll need to reread it a couple of times, but as always, thanks for taking the ridiculous amount of time and effort to share your thoughts. It's always a joy and your (and everyone else's) write ups always get us excited to break into the next update.
Mina's route starts as fuckbuddies and stays this way if Edwin doesn't choose actions to make it something closer and more exclusive.
Your mistake was to opt for Hana as girlfriend and expect a girl who has just broke up with her cheating boyfriend to be somehow okay as a willing accessory for another guy to cheat on his girlfriend.
Really good tease with that ending for Felicia excited to the exhibition update in the future.
Does someone know the requirements for the last 2 "Memories" scenes for Kathleen? One says that it will happen through normal advancement of the story but it never happened for me and the last one says to do something stupid.
I hope this is not the end of Victoria's career flashbacks. The dynamic that MC knew, but did not tell was interesting. Now that this arc is completed, this kinda pure character with slutty past needs something new and hopefully keeps this struggle with "purity" and the revealed dark urge.
I just watched the scene where Hana does a titjob for Edwin and lets him cum in her mouth and I have two things to say: First of all, perfect cumshot. When I say I want a scene ending with a cumshot in the mouth, this is how I want it done. The hand on the chin holding it in place, being able to actually see the cum shoot into the mouth instead of being just an oral creampie with the swallowing sounds. Awesome execution.
Second thing: how hard is it to animate something like that, with the cum fluids and stuff? I only ask because I want to understand why it´s so rare in HS games, at least those I´ve played. Everyone usually goes for the oral creampie when they do cum-in-mouth, which is probably easier but also lazier.
What I also find strange is that so far we've seen only Edwin, Kathleen and Jacob being influenced by this drug (that we know of), neither Chuck nor August seem to be affected by it (or Warren for that matter and out of all patreons only Jim seems interested in the old hag). Chuck spends time with Sophia the most out of all people and yet he can easily resist her charms (same goes for Abel, if anything it's Sophia who is under his influence). And judging by what Sophia said this drug works even on old men.
Which suggests it might not work on same sex but then again Sophia might have omitted some facts here (if it would work on everyone I would expect she would say "it works on everyone - males and females, young and old").
The impression I got was the *perfume* only works on men, but the injected drug works on both sexes. We've already seen Kathleen use the drug on the Carnations during their punishments, and the MC can use it on Kathleen during her sadism training.
I wouldn't say that 3 self-confidence points is a small impact when up until that point you can only get 6-7 points (depending on which path you choose with Mina and whether you refuse the threesome) and I personally really liked the scene itself, even though it's not an H-scene.
6-7? Try 2! There's slim pickins when you aren't on Felicia's path.
I suppose on the plus side that means the measly +1 Self-Confidence you get on the generic Felicia conversation is a 50% jump in my total. Sorry, Felicia!
I had the same problem in the previous update (and still in this one) and the only fix i found back then was to use a old version of URM (when the interface was still lightblue) it was working perfectly. But unfortunately, i upgraded my computer recently and lost the file. And i can't manage to find a old enough version anywhere to download now.
So if anyone have a fix or a old file version, i'm interested too.
I discussed my experiences with URM at the end of my review, but to summarize: I can get URM working properly by using the modifications to the "00action_data.rpy" file discussed here, but that winds up breaking some features in Pale Carnations, such as the Settings screen or manual game saving. I haven't found a way to get everything working properly yet.
It could be as simple as a combination of doing something easy that effectively curbs her a favor with "middle manager" she can cash in later, and actually enjoying some drugs herself?
I suppose it could be that simple, but it feels like a stretch. Dalia doesn't seem the type to do things on a whim, and she definitely doesn't enjoy herself on the job; that's why she always come across to the MC as nervous.
But honestly, turning down Sophia and Allison wasn't hard. Sophia never offered (we have a terrible rapport since my MC doesn't trust her and she's some flavor of insane), and the Allison scene couldn't be skeevier if Jim interrupted it to do more coke off Allison's ass halfway through. That's not what I'm looking for in a sex scene.
Happy Chapter 4 Update 6 everyone! I've played through a solid chunk of the game now (though it's sufficiently varied that I don't I've seen everything), so it's time to figure out how I feel about it. I think on a narrative level, it's extremely good. There are a lot of moving parts here, but they fit together well and more importantly they come together to sell a pivotal moment of the story in unmistakable style. And as I all to often fail to mention, the art is fantastic, always highlighting the feelings of the various characters and finding clever ways to frame the action.
However, as good as the story and character work is, I do feel like the gameplay lets it down a bit because for all the choices available to us, the update is unavoidably about the cruel hedonism that is the Carnation Club. That's not to say there are no moments of levity or sincere tenderness; there are, and some of them are quite good. But those moments are short, isolated, and all too often restricted to very specific paths. Most importantly, though, almost none of those moments do anything to second guess Kathleen's attitude in her moment of triumph, and that definitely stings.
The end result is a good update that I didn't enjoy playing. Of course, given my laughably vanilla tastes I think it's fair to say I was never going to find this update fun. But even in comparison to previous Exhibitions, it didn't feel like my actions made much difference this time, at least not within the Exhibition. I don't know if that's a result of splitting the Exhibition into two parts or me wanting to get the "belly of the whale" portion over as soon as possible - or maybe I've been misreading where the story was going the whole time. We'll have to see what happens next. For now, I'd say I liked the update, but not as much as I was hoping.
So much for the generalities, let's get down to brass tacks.
Okay, I think that does it for this update. Hopefully we'll be back again before too long to wrap up Chapter 4.
tl;dr A good update with lots of plot progression and plenty of lewd content, but not a lot of variety for those who don't like the Club's brand of entertainment
And I thought my write up of the update was a lot of text , interesting to hear your thoughts about it in general, I also share the feeling of enjoying non exhibition content more, but I was looking forward to the free roam in this update, as it had been a while since the last one, and I wouldn't mind it if devs decided to do them in other places of the game aside from exhibitions, as long as it makes sense of course. Honestly I expect not to enjoy the next update as much, considering it'll just be the main event, and I don't particularly love those scenes, but with everything going on with Felicia, I think it'll still be very interesting, I'm also curious to see what options they give us when it comes to ending the night with someone.
The more the game advances the more I feel like my "cannon" route will also take the Veronica path, it takes a while to penetrate into Ronnie's heart, but she's adorable once you do. I do wonder how the different endings will change based on who the MC ends up with tho I guess the ending is still a couple years away so I shouldn't worry too much about it.
