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Finally we have the time to be with sophia, but I just want to say it is a bit short compare to allison's scene, a little disappointed about that, hope we can have a second round asap.:(
And for sophia's weird behavior, my guess is that she is either in hypnosis stage or having multiple personality.:unsure:
 
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I don't think Rose is off the hook yet. We just removed the middleman, and now she's indebted to the club. I'm not sure if that's going to be much better, especially with how unhinged Kathleen is becoming.
In my play through I took the $5000 from Felicia and paid up Rose's debt. then when the thug came back talked to Chuck and he sent the police chief after the thugs operation. They were arrested and some of the gang were killed. As far as I can tell she is home free from the debt. I think she will be ok win or lose.
 
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Finally we have the time to be with sophia, but I just want to say it is a bit short compare to allison's scene, a little disappointed about that, hope we can have a second round asap.:(
And for sophia's weird behavior, my guess is that she is either in hypnosis stage or having multiple personality.:unsure:
do you mean the orgy scene or there another scene with Allison I missed.
 

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Orgy one that either choose sophia or allison, allison's is much longer.
The scene might be longer, but your choice will have repercusions in the future. Allison represents the dark path, Sophia the grey one and not participating at all the white path.
 
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The scene might be longer, but your choice will have repercusions in the future. Allison represents the dark path, Sophia the grey one and not participating at all the white path.
Is this your guessing or there are flags set in different path? As both the mod and walkthrough are not updated yet.
 

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Is this your guessing or there are flags set in different path? As both the mod and walkthrough are not updated yet.
Guessing with some hints from WoG. Not participating is the "white" path, so Allison and Sophia represent other paths Edwin can take. Sophia is clearly not the dark path, if you play her scene and read it, this becomes obvious, so she is the grey route. And Allison clearly represents the club and everything wrong with it.
 

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I don't think Veronica is selfish, she just wants to save her gym, after unknowingly getting screwed over. Felicia is definitely the most selfish one for being there, but you can kind of see her side of things in a way. So I wouldn't just say Rosie is more legit or the only non selfish.
The only sob story is Rosie’s, since it involves violence toward her and potentially her daughter. In the worst case, Veronica can start over in the future, and come on, it’s art school, not an emergency room :whistle:
 

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What I find interesting is that if we do take drugs, Sophia looks at us less favourable (Sophia rapport -2). I'm guessing it's because we were so angry about being drugged before (with aphrodisiac made by her, probably a lot safer than cocaine) but now we're doing coke. Or it might have to do with the fact that we're snorting coke off of Allison's ass and not hers :]. Anyway, I love details like these and TD wasn't kidding when he said that almost every decision we make is flagged.

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I don't think that what was happening in the Vault had happened to Sophia, although I guess it is plausible. I won't buy any hypnosis (which finger snap points to) or multiple personality disorder trope either (which "where did that succubus go?" -> "She only comes out when she needs to" points to). She might as well have a twin if we're going down that road, that could lead to an enjoyable sex scene at least. I'm still hoping TD will make all of this in a way I'll buy it but even if not I'm sure it will at least be fun.

Let's look at this whole bizarre scene again:
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Yeah, WTF indeed. My first thought here (until "I think" line) was that Sophia lied about Abel knowing and for some reason Edwin didn't take the hint even though at other times he could easily read a situation (a bit inconsistent if you ask me but I can forgive TD for this ;P). Then Edwin could perfectly read Sophia (this is a theme, sometimes Edwin feels like an all-knowing narrator when we read his thoughts and observations) and tell she was scared. So yeah, it seems she was somehow trained/conditioned but I fail to see why visiting Edwin would be something Abel would forbid and why would Sophia want to keep it a secret or Abel make her forget about it.

Either way it will probably be hard for me to buy the explanation of this scene but maybe TD will positively surprise me (as he often does).
 

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The scene might be longer, but your choice will have repercusions in the future. Allison represents the dark path, Sophia the grey one and not participating at all the white path.
If Allison is not a plant appointed by Kathleen to drive a wedge between Edwin/Hana and Felicia/Elias I'll eat my * shoe.
She's a viper, called into the club to poison relationships (even further).
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All paths lead to white.:sneaky:
Witzbold!(Joker) :) The irony is quite strong seeing you chose Sophia, despitequite a number of your posts slurring her.;)

What I find interesting is that if we do take drugs, Sophia looks at us less favourable (Sophia rapport -2). I'm guessing it's because we were so angry about being drugged before (with aphrodisiac made by her, probably a lot safer than cocaine) but now we're doing coke. Or it might have to do with the fact that we're snorting coke off of Allison's ass and not hers :]. Anyway, I love details like these and TD wasn't kidding when he said that almost every decision we make is flagged.
Yes, the storyline gloves come off. Choices will have consequences. Even if I were not a Sophia fan, I would have taken her path, since Allison and the druggies are the highway to hell.

I don't think that what was happening in the Vault had happened to Sophia, although I guess it is plausible. I won't buy any hypnosis (which finger snap points to) or multiple personality disorder trope either (which "where did that succubus go?" -> "She only comes out when she needs to" points to). She might as well have a twin if we're going down that road, that could lead to an enjoyable sex scene at least. I'm still hoping TD will make all of this in a way I'll buy it but even if not I'm sure it will at least be fun.
You might have read my post above on this topic. I am rather sure what happens in the vault, did not happen to Sophia. Still, I think beside special training she herself confirmed, that personality imprints play a big role here. Welldone ones since Abel is fond of Sophia and she is his successor, but nevertheless such things are dark black ops and secret services stuff.

So yeah, it seems she was somehow trained/conditioned but I fail to see why visiting Edwin would be something Abel would forbid and why would Sophia want to keep it a secret or Abel make her forget about it.
I theorise it is less that Abel "forbade" visiting the MC, but that she came to apologise(!) for Abel and herself. As explained by Sophia herself, Abel and Chuck are in a mega pissing content with the loser being probably minced meat afterwards. Apologising to Edwin means "showing weakness" which the enemy can see, since Edwin talked with Chuck about the visit. I must fire up a save where Edwin keeps the Abel/Sophia visit under wraps, if that changes some parts.
 
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Kathleen is not crazy enough, as this time she invites F's husband, in the final we may see R's daughter or V's girlfriend watching them under the stage.
 
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Sounds like a mod acting up. A game stopping a the same point as before is often an outdated walkthrough mod and/or other story dependent mods.
I figured it out. I apparently downloaded 4.5 and when I extracted it, I always remove the numbers at the end. So I was using 4.5 like a dumbass. Sorry for my stupidity and asking for help when I was at fault.
 
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