I mean, it's unlikely the players will be interested if Edwin spends the fourth week just like the previous three, only as a lackey and empathetic sponge. Something has to happen, right? That's why I mentioned a push in the last message. And I have serious doubts that Edwin can just up and leave when the summer exhibition is not over yet. That would be as stupid as Veronica's threats to stop performing.
This isn't an attempt to justify what the club does, but rather that I don't see the club employees or the carnations as pure victims of circumstance. They may be victims of causes unrelated to the club, but they themselves chose this place to solve their problems (there are exceptions, like Nicolette). Players probably have different views on this, but this is my take.
from a meta narrative perspective we as a player already know that this is just a convincing lie that Kathleen sold to the MC (Edwin) to recruit him
Kathy lies to almost everyone even when she doesn't
it always comes with a twist or some kind of price to pay
seems like darius already paid the "price" to leave the club
don't forget kathy isn't going to let the MC walk away from the club when the week 4 games end
just like with hana she is grooming/poaching talent that would be useful to her in future
do you really think she and rest of the VIPs are going to let someone useful especially someone like MC who is studying to be a doctor no less just walk away ?
no chance
it's already hinted in some ways
many of the side characters like grace , abel are already trying to recruit the MC to work for them
maybeworking for them won't be nearly as bad as working for Kathleen
or the MC could try to find out what happened to darius before week 4 and hopefully don't make the same mistakes as him
Ironically enough the MC has already committed the same mistake as Darius (he has already possibly depending on your choices has fallen in love with one of the carnations something kathy will try to use it against the MC)
don't forget so far the only young "talent" who has managed to survive past the past carnation games are ian and hana both are directly related to one of the main bosses by blood so theyare technically "safer" from her wrath should things get bad when compared to the MC who just like Darius isn't one of them
they are both replaceable outsiders
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That week 4 will be different has been hinted at by TD quite deftly and often during the game. It seriously hit me when I played a fresh start recently. But I think that Edwin will not become superactive, there will be a rise of activities from him and others around him, but it is not realistic that he becomes an action hero like in the movies.
This is not a "Stirb langsam"(Die hard) recreation, neither Edwin nor Ian or Hana are in a position or have the abilities to take the Club Leadership head-on. Those players opposing Kath and Chuck need to gather support, wherever they can. So Edwin will be active in that week, but different than some players may think.
Ian being your bro will pay off (if you made the effort to repair their friendship), having good relations with Hana and having helped repair her relations with August will also be very helpful. Just look at this scene. Those two are totally on board with what happens(Irony off)
When the situation strives towards the climax, maybe the lead starts to fly, you also want further help. Jacob, even Samson, Warren, Elias and Otto might play a part in that, depending on your choices. Maybe even how you treated the house girls will become a topic. And for the big guns Abel and Sophia, if you want to take down Kath and Chuck. We know that they oppose them and want to bring Edwin on their side.
The same gathering of forces is essential for the dark sadist Edwin licking Kath´s boots. Ian is a boon for this Edwin too, but he should make sure to keep Hana´s anger and selfishness high. Because only then August will stand fast on Chuck and Kath´s side. The reflective August due to his tighter relations with Hana is not something the dark Edwin wants.
Gaining allies among the cast is the same crucial process as for "white knight" or "grey" Edwin, but the faces are partly different. Grace will play a role here too, maybe Allison. Even if she was called in only to destroy the relations of Elias and Edwin with Felicia and others.
They were talking about Kathleen, who is not a side character.
In terms of romance she's a side girl, on par with Sophia. There are 5 main girls
Would be a shame if she is only considered a side girl since I think she offers something completely different story wise to the other main characters
Sophia doesn't have her own gallery page. Kathleen does.
I'm sure she will get it eventually
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That Kathleen as a LI has been demoted is quite logical. While she is a different type of LI compared to many typical ones, she is an option only for a dark Edwin. And realistically speaking Kath can never be more than an affair for any Edwin. Kath is a hardcore sadist, which limits her emotional range and expression, that is a fact. What little love she can feel and express is given her husband as we could see in the game. Edwin would always be an affair, her gopher and sidekick. Ok, one day her successor at the club, but romatically there is nothing which could go further than a deep affair.
Dr. Sophia Lundgren, possible personality grafts and imprints aside, is also a breath of fresh air on the romance side. As I wrote many times before, an amoral, calculating, eccentric, nerdy genius is extremly rare as a LI, because few writers can bring eccentric across well. I personally know some eccentric persons, they are not psychotic, even if some people might think so, psychosis is different. Eccentricity is running on a different set of values, urges and rules than most persons. To paraphrase George Kelly: We see the (and interact with the) world through our own selfmade constructs and templates. Eccentricity is consistent use of the personal rule and template set, no matter how unusual these templates might be. Even Sophia´s theatralic sorry to Edwin fits this, her current life is abstracted and structured to such a degree that she hardly understands that there are natural urges to have fun, to enjoy. But unlike Kath, Sophia is able to experience and express the full palette of emotions humankind is capable off.
TD1900 delivers when it comes to eccentricity. And that is one reason why I asked so consistently for a romance path Edwin/Sophia. Worming your way into the eccentric heart of Sophia Lundren is a refreshingly different path to take when it comes to LIs. The story also shows that Edwin and Sophia can click well together. So I sincerly hope that we get a route through Pale Carnations where those two become a couple in the end.
