VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[labmouseblues]

Isn't it better to support august?

August has no particular reason to deal with Fel, and Fel has nothing to offer him. They're practically strangers.

Look, if Chuck goes "Hey girl, I know your big plan for comfortable independence backfired like a cheap Chinese EV, but I'm willing to give you a job and protection from your husband", I can't see Fel turning that kind of offer down, when that's ostensibly what her goal was all along. I don't think trust would be a factor here.

 

[harsha_26]

Do any of you really think Felicia has the power to support anyone in the club? Yet the last update was pretty clear: Felicia was only a tool to bring Elias in the club. She was a trophy wife, but now, since her clever plot backfired in a spectacular way, she is just an Elias' asset.

It's all started on those new preview's two lines. If those two lines never uttered in the game, We would also would have thought felicia have no future in club other than being a house girl in bad endings. It is just speculation. Yes, she is a tool to bring elias. But, now that tool's use is over. So, she is no longer a Elias Asset too because her marriage is already deteriorated. She does not belong to club or elias now, does not have any debt like rosalind, she does not have any mortagage running on her gym like veronica. Her only issue is, how to survive from now on because of no support from anyone. She have all the options to leave carnation and go for art if she don't have any great future inside the club. That's what MC hints to her in last update meet.

 

[harsha_26]

August has no particular reason to deal with Fel, and Fel has nothing to offer him. They're practically strangers.

Look, if Chuck goes "Hey girl, I know your big plan for comfortable independence backfired like a cheap Chinese EV, but I'm willing to give you a job and protection from your husband", I can't see Fel turning that kind of offer down, when that's ostensibly what her goal was all along. I don't think trust would be a factor here.

May be a low confidence feli would accept that regardless of trust issues. Moreover her goal is to become one of patron. Not a job.

 

[Idontplay]

It's all started on those new preview's two lines. If those two lines never uttered in the game, We would also would have thought felicia have no future in club other than being a house girl in bad endings. It is just speculation. Yes, she is a tool to bring elias. But, now that tool's use is over. So, she is no longer a Elias Asset too because her marriage is already deteriorated. She does not belong to club or elias now, does not have any debt like rosalind, she does not have any mortagage running on her gym like veronica. Her only issue is, how to survive from now on because of no support from anyone. She have all the options to leave carnation and go for art if she don't have any great future inside the club. That's what MC hints to her in last update meet.

Those are sentences without context. It is more likely she will be used by some club member to manipulate in some way Elias or by Elias to manipulate some club member, since now she has nothing to offer to the club, but she can be used by the club.

 

[harsha_26]

Those are sentences without context. It is more likely she will be used by some club member to manipulate in some way Elias or by Elias to manipulate some club member, since now she has nothing to offer to the club, but she can be used by the club.

Since MC already encouraged her to take Art Or even if fel chose club, MC is there to help her take better decisions? And since Feli have no friends close in club except MC, she may listen to him more than club members? I accept that there may be bad endings to her. But, at the same time, there are multiple ways which we can get good endings too inside or out side of the job. I don't know why you are completely ignoring the MC of this game. He is not there just to see and watch everything upto the end while main characters do their things without MC's involvement upto the end of the game. He gets his time too take worthy decisions.

 

[Idontplay]

Actually I was talking about the club members and the possibility that Felicia could support one of them.

 

[Rhundurin]

Oh about the cheating thing, I'm not referring to Rhundurin, he seems to be a big Hana fan and was just wondering why there's no dialogue from Edwin questioning the act and TD already answered that.

Yeah, I’d never do that to my girl Hana. I just wanted to see the dialogue changes in my HanaGF save. Also, isn’t the orgy scene inevitable, or do I remember it wrong? Either way, I felt bad playing through that scene

You can quote multiple posts pretty easily, thankfully! Instead of clicking "Reply" on a post you want to respond to, you can click "Quote." Do that with as many posts as you want/need. Then, at the bottom of the page, under the text box for a reply, you'll see a button that says "Insert quotes..." Click on that and you can quote as many posts in your reply as you like.

Thanks Ozy, it worked I guess.

 

[harsha_26]

Actually I was talking about the club members and the possibility that Felicia could support one of them.

Ohh.. Anyway, I prefer her to be outside of club. So, whatever. I wish confidence points matters in next update rather than end game.

 

[Discrepancy]

Yeah, I’d never do that to my girl Hana. I just wanted to see the dialogue changes in my HanaGF save. Also, isn’t the orgy scene inevitable, or do I remember it wrong? Either way, I felt bad playing through that scene

The orgy is inevitable, but fucking Sophia or Allison isn't just avoidable, you have to "work" or be nice to them to have the chance to do it.
Dalia will still have a bit of fun with Edwin I think without choice on your part.

 

[ffive]

I don´t like where this is going.

That's basically the game's tagline.

 

[X2JZcf]

Dalia will still have a bit of fun with Edwin I think without choice on your part.

Just a bit.

 

[Rhundurin]

The orgy is inevitable, but fucking Sophia or Allison isn't just avoidable, you have to "work" or be nice to them to have the chance to do it.
Dalia will still have a bit of fun with Edwin I think without choice on your part.

Okay, gotcha. By the way, don’t mind my constant bitching, that orgy scene was definitely fun to read. I prefer Allison between the two because, as a long-time lurker of this thread, I know that Sophia is Turret ’s girlfriend so I didn’t want to steal his girl lol. But jokes aside, I think Sophia’s scene was more “satisfying.” Especially with the chemistry she and Edwin have had building up since the earlier updates, plus her home visit before the orgy scene, the Sophia option just felt more rewarding to me.

 

[ffive]

I know that Sophia is @Turret ’s girlfriend so I didn’t want to steal his girl lol.

No, no, i'm sure Turret doesn't mind how popular his girlfriend is, it's a point of pride.

 

[Turret]

and Allison is kinda the Type I fall for easy (like Felish) i had to chose her for my Edwin canon, still like Sophia though, not as much as you ofc, but you are Sophia number one fan

Okay, gotcha. By the way, don’t mind my constant bitching, that orgy scene was definitely fun to read. I prefer Allison between the two because, as a long-time lurker of this thread, I know that Sophia is Turret ’s girlfriend so I didn’t want to steal his girl lol. But jokes aside, I think Sophia’s scene was more “satisfying.” Especially with the chemistry she and Edwin have had building up since the earlier updates, plus her home visit before the orgy scene, the Sophia option just felt more rewarding to me.

No, no, i'm sure Turret doesn't mind how popular his girlfriend is, it's a point of pride.

Discrepancy Hi again! You know quite well my answer to your statement that I am Sophia fan no.1, that I do not know if that is the case. I personally still do not really believe it, but given the quoted new banter or older stuff like "when the Sophia guy posts screenshots" and such, I think the thread members have decided for me it is the case.
ffive Hi again! Well, I find it nice if others like a character I like too, but there will be always personal tastes and likes playing a role in it.
As I wrote before Sophia is a very interesting character in a very strong cast and an eccentric to boot. Good eccentric characters are rare in both AVNs and normal games and even rarer among LIs in these games. Not surprisingly, since it is not easy to write fitting eccentrics.

 

[Discrepancy]

Discrepancy Hi again! You know quite well my answer to your statement that I am Sophia fan no.1, that I do not know if that is the case. I personally still do not really believe it, but given the quoted new banter or older stuff like "when the Sophia guy posts screenshots" and such, I think the thread members have decided for me it is the case.
ffive Hi again! Well, I find it nice if others like a character I like too, but there will be always personal tastes and likes playing a role in it.
As I wrote before Sophia is a very interesting character in a very strong cast and an eccentric to boot. Good eccentric characters are rare in both AVNs and normal games and even rarer among LIs in these games. Not surprisingly, since it is not easy to write fitting eccentrics.

Had to fish for this one, your post reminded me of it, it was one of my first posts on this thread I think, didn't post that much back then but you were already popular
Check it out: https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-6-public-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15662942

 

[Darreau91]

He is so over the top with his hate for Sophia that I can´t take it seriously. Still so, I will enjoy the Sophia arc as it unfolds, knowing it is driving Darreau nuts that she is one of the most important characters in the game now.

I do! Pale Carnations needs a romance path and ending with our best amoral, eccentric, nerdy genius Sophia! Like I have argued for quite a time.
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Generally I think it is better to be FwB with Hana if you are not 100% commited on her route. Because for instance if you have high points with Sophia, them having sex during the orgy and the talk afterwards shows some growing closeness and budding relationship.
It is pretty clear that e.g. Sophia meant her job proposal earnestly, but her social skills are mostly rudimentary so far. She wanted our hero closer to her, not recognising that "cleaning the beakers" would be misunderstood by most people.

I could be Sophia, if it is part of the plan to keep the club going after taking over.

No problem, Chummer! So far I only played routes with max or near max Sophia points, so I cannot say if the dialog between them in the orgy is different if you just scraped by with minimum Sophia points. With high points it becomes rather obvious that two eccentrics (Edwin less, Sophia more so on the eccentrism scale) are warming up to each other and there is growing closeness, even possible budding relationship.
I estimate Edwin can get closer to Sophia too at a later date if you did not chose her in the orgy, but I think the chances are vastly greater if you choose her consistently.

I do not know if I am Sophia fan number one, but there is a number of other members in the thread who think so too. There might be something to it.

Discrepancy Hi again! You know quite well my answer to your statement that I am Sophia fan no.1, that I do not know if that is the case. I personally still do not really believe it, but given the quoted new banter or older stuff like "when the Sophia guy posts screenshots" and such, I think the thread members have decided for me it is the case.
ffive Hi again! Well, I find it nice if others like a character I like too, but there will be always personal tastes and likes playing a role in it.
As I wrote before Sophia is a very interesting character in a very strong cast and an eccentric to boot. Good eccentric characters are rare in both AVNs and normal games and even rarer among LIs in these games. Not surprisingly, since it is not easy to write fitting eccentrics.

There is more irony here than the idea Sophia has an ass worth talking about.

 

[Kameri]

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"The place could benefit from a woman like her, especially if things ever need to be shaken up."

This is usually where 'mind break' tag gets added

 

[dolfe67]

This is usually where 'mind break' tag gets added

But Pale Carnation is not your usual nukige.

 

[Draim]

But Pale Carnation is not your usual nukige.

>How to ragebait pale carnation fan
>write this "usual*