VN Ren'Py Completed Pandora's Box [v1.0] [Void Star]

[Black Swamp Ent.]

So your aim is to redeem the corrupts when you play a Porno-game?
are you a priest?
a nun?
When ever a teenager couple will mever change?
They have their whole life ahead ... you believe that this couple can never change
but then, why should they be redeemed?
From what?
their own mistakes will make them better for sure in about 10 years.

The world is changed
we live in the 2020 and the millenians are totally different from what you think..

this game is very interesting.

lol what?

By redeemable, I mean in the story, the two protagonists have no likeable quality about them, hence they're not redeemable in the story. Why would a player of this game care about the two protags? The relationship is said to have "love" in it, but Eugene is spineless twit who makes the horrible decisions who seems to only look at Nadia as some sort of trophy or prize, while Nadia will openly screw anything within a mile radius.

Keep in mind, these two are NOT in an open relationship up until the point where I stopped playing. They were in an exclusive relationship, where cheating happens, cheating that either side doesn't want. Several of the cheating scenarios were *not* avoidable as well.

The story in itself (to the point I played to) is pretty basic for most VN's though, character gets job, job forces them to do things they don't like, blackmail situations happen, the standard "ex-boyfriend" scenario, gym scenarios etc.. There's nothing really separating this one from other VN's other than all the characters are absolute trash.

I mean if you like this VN, more power to you, it's not for me. I prefer some sort of coherent storyline and developed relatable characters. At least the art was solid, but that's about it.

Also, no exclusive relationship (exclusive, NOT open) would last 1 year with some of the crazy, off the wall situations that happen in this VN, let alone 10.

 

[DownTheDrain]

By redeemable, I mean in the story, the two protagonists have no likeable quality about them, hence they're not redeemable in the story. Why would a player of this game care about the two protags? The relationship is said to have "love" in it, but Eugene is spineless twit who makes the horrible decisions who seems to only look at Nadia as some sort of trophy or prize, while Nadia will openly screw anything within a mile radius.

Pretty sure that's working as intended.
It's a hardcore NTR title for people that are into that, complete with stereotypes dialed up to 11. He's supposed to be a wimp and she's supposed to be a cunt. I don't think anyone apart from rabid fanboys would try to paint this as a healthy, realistic relationship, or as a story with any subtleties.

 

[defd©™]

lol what?

By redeemable, I mean in the story, the two protagonists have no likeable quality about them, hence they're not redeemable in the story. Why would a player of this game care about the two protags? The relationship is said to have "love" in it, but Eugene is spineless twit who makes the horrible decisions who seems to only look at Nadia as some sort of trophy or prize, while Nadia will openly screw anything within a mile radius.

Keep in mind, these two are NOT in an open relationship up until the point where I stopped playing. They were in an exclusive relationship, where cheating happens, cheating that either side doesn't want. Several of the cheating scenarios were *not* avoidable as well.

The story in itself (to the point I played to) is pretty basic for most VN's though, character gets job, job forces them to do things they don't like, blackmail situations happen, the standard "ex-boyfriend" scenario, gym scenarios etc.. There's nothing really separating this one from other VN's other than all the characters are absolute trash.

I mean if you like this VN, more power to you, it's not for me. I prefer some sort of coherent storyline and developed relatable characters. At least the art was solid, but that's about it.

Also, no exclusive relationship (exclusive, NOT open) would last 1 year with some of the crazy, off the wall situations that happen in this VN, let alone 10.

...

and what's wrong with that?
What do you want to change in this story ???

do you want a declared open relationship?
do you want an NTR story to be related only to someone stealing the girl from the MC?
this game is unique
there are 2 MCs that have the same power...

so it is impossible to steal the girl
this dev is a genius

Not ALL STORIES have to be the same

for me....
This game is very intersting

PS: Guys, but do I really have to explain everything to you?
If you don't like the game just don't play and don't post here
if you think that there is way to write the same story better...
you are free to start to develop your own version...

instead of telling me what's wrong could you please tell me
how you want this story to turn out?

so i will be able to compare your version with the fucking awesome original.

 

[AL.d]

My curiosity was piqued with this one with an interesting premise, but man, I couldn't continue with it, I tried the corruption route and Nadia just turns into pure trash while Eugene is horrible and completely gutted. They were unlikeable from the very start, and just went downhill from there. I got to the part where Nadia confronts him over 1 picture (all the while she's screwed half the city) and he just begs while she sits on her mountain, that's where I just gave up. The artwork is great though, but that's about it.

Everyone in the story is despicable in the bit I played, no one is redeemable in any way.

I think the best way to play this game (like most dual protag games) is not give a shit about the characters and just make every fucked up decision you can. It's impossible to empathize with a character when I'm constantly switching back and fourth so I might as well play the cruel god and ruin them.

My goal for this is to turn Nadia into a drug addicted cumrag (hopefully joined by her slut mother) and Eugene the most pathetic of cucks begging for sloppy seconds. I mean it seems deserving for two of the most despicable protagonists I've seen on here. Honestly I think that was dev's plan all along, no way he didn't see how shitty those characters are.

 

[defd©™]

Pretty sure that's working as intended.
It's a hardcore NTR title for people that are into that, complete with stereotypes dialed up to 11. He's supposed to be a wimp and she's supposed to be a cunt. I don't think anyone apart from rabid fanboys would try to paint this as a healthy, realistic relationship, or as a story with any subtleties.

you are wrong
It is a very realistic story for
those born in the millennium without work
they only have one choice
stay home with mom and dad

but in this case they have decided to go live on their own ....
it's rare .. but not impossible

this is what scares everyone who thinks there is only one way to be in a relationship

this is the reason that make this game
really interesting

I really suggest to read the text in this game... dialogs are very very interesting

 

[Pica-bu]

defd Jeez dude, chill out a little... we get that u are a fanboy of this game, u don't need to comment on every person that has a different opinion than u

 

[DownTheDrain]

you are wrong
It is a very realistic story for
those born in the millennium without work
they only have one choice
stay home with mom and dad

but in this case they have decided to go on their own ....
it's rare .. but not impossible

this is what scares everyone who thinks there is only one way to be in a relationship

this is the reason that make this game
really interesting

Listen cupcake, our definitions of what constitutes a "very realistic story" are so far apart that there's no point in even arguing about it. If this game is everything you ever hoped for then good for you. Others are entitled to feel differently so kindly stop trying to play thread police.

 

[defd©™]

I think the best way to play this game (like most dual protag games) is not give a shit about the characters and just make every fucked up decision you can. It's impossible to empathize with a character when I'm constantly switching back and fourth so I might as well play the cruel god and ruin them.

when you play do you want to empathize with the protagonist?
I never play a game
i never play any game with empathy for the mc

what are the games where you feel empathy for the MC?

My goal for this is to turn Nadia into a drug addicted cumrag (hopefully joined by her slut mother) and Eugene the most pathetic of cucks begging for sloppy seconds. I mean it seems deserving for two of the most despicable protagonists I've seen on here. Honestly I think that was dev's plan all along, no way he didn't see how shitty those characters are.

this is your choice and that's okay you will definitely have fun by this way

but can onlt suggest to stay focused on the story... is a truly enlightening story about teenagers of these years

 

[BeastMaster59]

I dont want to bitch about the Devs work,fantastic Renders, the Animation is fantastic, everything is fantastic in my book,except.....I would love this game alot more if the renders & animation where a little less HQ, but for that I would get longer game updates.
Because with a little less quality and renders I believe he could put out longer updates.
Just my 2 bits.

 

[defd©™]

defd Jeez dude, chill out a little... we get that u are a fanboy of this game, u don't need to comment on every person that has a different opinion than u

I'm also replay to you because I know that you have my same opinion
...
anyway I'm not a fan of this game...
I just want to explain the story of the game to people that continue to complain without any reason...

if they do not like the game why they continue to replay to me?

 

[DownTheDrain]

anyway I'm not a fan of this game...

Alright, that was genuinely funny...

 

[stahalle]

I dont want to bitch about the Devs work,fantastic Renders, the Animation is fantastic, everything is fantastic in my book,except.....I would love this game alot more if the renders & animation where a little less HQ, but for that I would get longer game updates.
Because with a little less quality and renders I believe he could put out longer updates.
Just my 2 bits.

i dont agree with you for just 1 reason. the updates are short, but he updates faster than any other def with this quality. it feels like every 3-4 weeks a new update where others need 3-4 months for a new update.

 

[Pica-bu]

I'm also replay to you because I know that you have my same opinion
...
anyway I'm not a fan of this game...
I just want to explain the story of the game to people that continue to complain without any reason...

if they do not like the game why they continue to replay to me?

" anyway I'm not a fan of this game... " oh really? then why the F do you defend it so much, let alone why the F do you care about what people say about it if u "not a fan of this game..." it's bizarre to me to say the least

 

[biggestboyo]

You're not supposed to feel sorry for MC on NTR heavy games(assuming you picked the NTR route), the problem is the vanilla bois are so used to playing these vn games in one way that they think it's the only way a game is played. Many of them self insert themselves as the MC getting all the chicks because it never happens to them in real life. What you should be doing is self insert as the chad(s) that's NTRing the pathetic MC. There are plenty of vanilla games out there if you have a problem with NTR, much more than NTR games...leave and play something that doesn't hurt your self insert MC feelings.

I just love it when I self insert as the one doing the NTR and imagine the MC as a vanilla boy crying in a corner barking but too scared to show action and win back the girl.

Fun fact, NTR happens in RL if you're a simp or too ignorant to notice it, also happens when you lack communication with your partner or are too scared to stand up for yourself when you notice it happening right in front of you, its been like this since forever, but of course this is a game where anything can happen, and stupid actions have no consequences, right?

NTR haters will come in here polluting threads crying with any slight sign of NTR(not this game, but in general) whine about it demanding that specific scene to be removed or they will not play the game and give the game a 1 star regardless or how good everything else it, they become so narrow minded its pathetic.

 

[AL.d]

when you play do you want to empathize with the protagonist?
I never play a game
i never play any game with empathy for the mc

what are the games where you feel empathy for the MC?

99% of games out there aim to immerse you in their world by putting you in the shoes of the protagonist. You can literally find a top 100/200/500 or whatever gaming list you want, close your eyes, point at one game and it will be one that aims to put you in place of its protagonist, control his/her decisions and empathize with his/her struggles. I shouldn't have to point something so obvious but you seem to think a VN about a turbo-slut and her turbo-cuck bf seems to be the pinnacle of gaming so I guess I have to.

I won't even comment about the enlightening story part but it did give me a good chuckle so thanks for that.

 

[defd©™]

" anyway I'm not a fan of this game... " oh really? then why the F do you defend it so much, let alone why the F do you care about what people say about it if u "not a fan of this game..." it's bizarre to me to say the least

Because I want to try to save them from the puritans
Do you know that the devil are searching for them...

I want to save them because they are in the wrong road...

 

[sydsfkjl]

how to get ending 1B?

 

[chameleon]

how to get ending 1B?

You get the ending 1B if you have few submission points (how few I'm not sure, I got it with about 4 points), and then broke the relationship

 

[DownTheDrain]

99% of games out there aim to immerse you in their world by putting you in the shoes of the protagonist. You can literally find a top 100/200/500 or whatever gaming list you want, close your eyes, point at one game and it will be one that aims to put you in place of its protagonist, control his/her decisions and empathize with his/her struggles. I shouldn't have to point something so obvious but you seem to think a VN about a turbo-slut and her turbo-cuck bf seems to be the pinnacle of gaming so I guess I have to.

To be fair, there appear to be a lot of people that don't self-insert at all and treat it like any other type of porn.
Not to mention the post right above yours where the guy likes to roleplay as the chad, which seems a bit odd as you generally don't get to control the antagonists.

I agree that the characters here are basically caricatures but that seems to be fully intended and obviously works for some players.

 

[defd©™]

99% of games out there aim to immerse you in their world by putting you in the shoes of the protagonist. You can literally find a top 100/200/500 or whatever gaming list you want, close your eyes, point at one game and it will be one that aims to put you in place of its protagonist, control his/her decisions and empathize with his/her struggles. I shouldn't have to point something so obvious but you seem to think a VN about a turbo-slut and her turbo-cuck bf seems to be the pinnacle of gaming so I guess I have to.

I won't even comment about the enlightening story part but it did give me a good chuckle so thanks for that.

Do you want all games at the top of the charts?
this is not realistic but the story line of this game is very realistic
Do you love summer successfully songs

I love quality
I love Jazz music
I love artists that di not care about charts

I love Jazz music
S
Do you know John Coltrane , Miles Davis ?..

I love neworiginal stories

this game is very promising