DownTheDrain

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99% of games out there aim to immerse you in their world by putting you in the shoes of the protagonist. You can literally find a top 100/200/500 or whatever gaming list you want, close your eyes, point at one game and it will be one that aims to put you in place of its protagonist, control his/her decisions and empathize with his/her struggles. I shouldn't have to point something so obvious but you seem to think a VN about a turbo-slut and her turbo-cuck bf seems to be the pinnacle of gaming so I guess I have to.
To be fair, there appear to be a lot of people that don't self-insert at all and treat it like any other type of porn.
Not to mention the post right above yours where the guy likes to roleplay as the chad, which seems a bit odd as you generally don't get to control the antagonists.

I agree that the characters here are basically caricatures but that seems to be fully intended and obviously works for some players.
 

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99% of games out there aim to immerse you in their world by putting you in the shoes of the protagonist. You can literally find a top 100/200/500 or whatever gaming list you want, close your eyes, point at one game and it will be one that aims to put you in place of its protagonist, control his/her decisions and empathize with his/her struggles. I shouldn't have to point something so obvious but you seem to think a VN about a turbo-slut and her turbo-cuck bf seems to be the pinnacle of gaming so I guess I have to.

I won't even comment about the enlightening story part but it did give me a good chuckle so thanks for that.
Do you want all games at the top of the charts?
this is not realistic but the story line of this game is very realistic
Do you love summer successfully songs

I love quality
I love Jazz music
I love artists that di not care about charts

I love Jazz music
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Do you know John Coltrane , Miles Davis ?..

I love neworiginal stories

this game is very promising
 

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To be fair, there appear to be a lot of people that don't self-insert at all and treat it like any other type of porn.
Not to mention the post right above yours where the guy likes to roleplay as the chad, which seems a bit odd as you generally don't get to control the antagonists.

I agree that the characters here are basically caricatures but that seems to be fully intended and obviously works for some players.
I meant games in general not just wegs but most of these do aim to make you sef-insert too. It's core game design. Sure, some players choose not to but I would argue that in any game with even a tad bit of roleplaying element, they won't enjoy them to their full extent.

As I said above I find it impossible to do this with this game, not only beacause the two MCs are horrible but also because it's practically impossible with two protags. I can still have some fun looking at that trainwreck of a relationship so I'm not hating either, just not my fav type of game.
 

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To be fair, there appear to be a lot of people that don't self-insert at all and treat it like any other type of porn.
Not to mention the post right above yours where the guy likes to roleplay as the chad, which seems a bit odd as you generally don't get to control the antagonists.

I agree that the characters here are basically caricatures but that seems to be fully intended and obviously works for some players.
Of course there are, and so do I most of the time, i enjoy playing vn porn games as a third person pov and enjoy seeing the outcome...like a movie. But those that cry and whine about NTR games clearly doesn't see it that way and it's not difficult to see that they are the ones that like to self insert as the MC.
 

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You get the ending 1B if you have few submission points (how few I'm not sure, I got it with about 4 points), and then broke the relationship
That is correct. 1b is the ending with the male MC not being a complete bitch.
There isn't much to it though so if that's not in your current saves, I wouldn't bother.
 
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defd©™

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I meant games in general not just wegs but most of these do aim to make you sef-insert too. It's core game design. Sure, some players choose not to but I would argue that in any game with even a tad bit of roleplaying element, they won't enjoy them to their full extent.

As I said above I find it impossible to do this with this game, not only beacause the two MCs are horrible but also because it's practically impossible with two protags. I can still have some fun looking at that trainwreck of a relationship so I'm not hating either, just not my fav type of game.
This is an your limit.
The game is perfect as his
 

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The dev mentioned that he/she is working on childhood friends 2, which i assume or hope will be the next main game after this one is finished, and from the looks of it, it'll be another NTR game.
 

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Of course there are, and so do I most of the time, i enjoy playing vn porn games as a third person pov and enjoy seeing the outcome...like a movie. But those that cry and whine about NTR games clearly doesn't see it that way and it's not difficult to see that they are the ones that like to self insert as the MC.
You'll notice that none of us put the game down because we can't properly self-insert.
It's an obvious NTR title, nobody with a modicum of self-respect would even attempt to roleplay as either of the protagonists.

The problem is I can't get invested in any part of the story because it's such a train wreck. You seem to appreciate the fucked up nature of this whole setting and if you can get your rocks off by watching big bad chads turn the main girl into a cocksleeve then good for you. To each their own.
 

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A relationship between 2 lovers must be funded on the parity
You get the ending 1B if you have few submission points (how few I'm not sure, I got it with about 4 points), and then broke the relationship
so this game is very well written
If you have that poor submission point you don’t want tha the relationship continue... so no Pandora’s Box = game over

as you know point system is shared between the 2 MCs

this is another thing that Eugene and Nadia have in common
 

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You'll notice that none of us put the game down because we can't properly self-insert.
It's an obvious NTR title, nobody with a modicum of self-respect would even attempt to roleplay as either of the protagonists.

The problem is I can't get invested in any part of the story because it's such a train wreck. You seem to appreciate the fucked up nature of this whole setting and if you can get your rocks off by watching big bad chads turn the main girl into a cocksleeve then good for you. To each their own.
I'm just in it for the ride, I got pornhub to get off on. My gripe is mainly on how narrow minded some people get and automatically give games a automatic 1 or 0 if they can on the slight sign of NTR ignoring everything else. Yeah, the male MC is an idiot thus the consequences. Take it as a lesson what not to do in real life. ;)
 

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I'm just in it for the ride, I got pornhub to get off on. My gripe is mainly on how narrow minded some people get and automatically give games a automatic 1 or 0 if they can on the slight sign of NTR ignoring everything else. Yeah, the male MC is an idiot thus the consequences. Take it as a lesson what not to do in real life. ;)
Will be such as boring life of yours

I think it is interesting and the MCs in this game both are not idiots at all
 

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You'll notice that none of us put the game down because we can't properly self-insert.
It's an obvious NTR title, nobody with a modicum of self-respect would even attempt to roleplay as either of the protagonists.

The problem is I can't get invested in any part of the story because it's such a train wreck. You seem to appreciate the fucked up nature of this whole setting and if you can get your rocks off by watching big bad chads turn the main girl into a cocksleeve then good for you. To each their own.
Part of that train wreck is the blackmail path. As soon as the MC bf completely submitted to the MC gf the blackmail had no more power over her. She even said she could fuck other people and the MC bf completely agreed to it.

But then the MC gf gets a delivery and does what the blackmailer tells her even though she knows the MC bf completely submitted to her and she wouldn't get in the slightest bit of trouble with her MC bf and the whole time she is doing it you can tell she didn't want to and was completely disgusted by it.

As soon as the MC bf submitted to the MC gf that should have ended the blackmail path. And mommy dearest wouldn't have had to sacrifice herself for the greater good. :rolleyes:
 

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Part of that train wreck is the blackmail path. As soon as the MC bf completely submitted to the MC gf the blackmail had no more power over her. She even said she could fuck other people and the MC bf completely agreed to it.

But then the MC gf gets a delivery and does what the blackmailer tells her even though she knows the MC bf completely submitted to her and she wouldn't get in the slightest bit of trouble with her MC bf and the whole time she is doing it you can tell she didn't want to and was completely disgusted by it.

As soon as the MC bf submitted to the MC gf that should have ended the blackmail path. And mommy dearest wouldn't have had to sacrifice herself for the greater good. :rolleyes:
why?
The blackmail path is a Nadia only story and there is no end of this path bath when the mom of Nadia take her place the blackmail path change as a part of the storyline
The story is well written
And Mia is also involved and helps a lot to understand the family of Nadia

this is not a sandbox game the story is linear and can continue for years if the couple continue their relationship the pandora box will be open by the 2 of them together.

if the couple fail the game is over...

I think the dev is a genius.
This Pandora’s box must be open by showing all the full depravation that is possible ... and as legend said: there is no limit in the content of a Pandora’s Box.
 
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why?
The blackmail path is a Nadia only story and there is no end of this path bath when the mom of Nadia take her place the blackmail path change as a part of the storyline
The story is well written
And Mia is also involved and helps a lot to understand the family of Nadia

this is not a sandbox game the story is linear and can continue for years if the couple continue their relationship the pandora box will be open by the 2 of them together.

if the couple fail the game is over...

I think the dev is a genius.
This Pandora’s box must be open by showing all the full depravation that is possible ... and as legend said: there is no limit in the content of a Pandora’s Box.
This entire reply looks like you were answering someone else's comment.:rolleyes:
 

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enjoying this game, though i'm curious if there is content for like a "love" path such as it is, where the boyfriend doesn't do any submissive choices and the girlfriends doesn't make any corruption choices? May try that later if it's worth it but if there isn't really any content then i'd just assume play another game when i'm done with the full corruption/submission path
 
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