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eddie987

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agreed that scene ruined it for me. and unfortunatly game doesnt give you option to refuse any of the girls or who joins your harem. far as i can tell this game forces relationships. and that scene is closest it gets to being NTR without actaully being NTR. but yeah didnt even feel like playing after that. Total mood killer. i was like "aww man rellly?'
Yeah, I found it weird because the dev said from the start that he's not interested in the 3 letter fetish, so I didn't expect these kind of scenes with any of the love interests. Especially when Lidia is not some random chick you meet once, but the character who is the closest to the MC at this point. It's not NTR, it has nothing to do with it, it happened when the MC was a still a baby and I get that the dev wanted to show how his birth changed her life, but you can do that with words. The visuals weren't necessary in my opinion, no matter how long ago it happened. Why would I want to see someone I'm interested in, not just having sex with someone else, but being double teamed? It's like meeting a girl and after a while she starts showing you videos with her exes! I know she has a past, but I don't want to see video proof of it! It's the same thing we talked about in Peaceful Life's thread, but it's worst for me here, because I actually liked Lidia and she was already introduced as someone close to the MC. She already is a sexual partner and more than that, not someone you might pursue later on.
Sorry for rambling. I had forgotten about this game and your comment gave me a mild ptsd. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yeah, I found it weird because the dev said from the start that he's not interested in the 3 letter fetish, so I didn't expect these kind of scenes with any of the love interests. Especially when Lidia is not some random chick you meet once, but the character who is the closest to the MC at this point. It's not NTR, it has nothing to do with it, it happened when the MC was a still a baby and I get that the dev wanted to show how his birth changed her life, but you can do that with words. The visuals weren't necessary in my opinion, no matter how long ago it happened. Why would I want to see someone I'm interested in, not just having sex with someone else, but being double teamed? It's like meeting a girl and after a while she starts showing you videos with her exes! I know she has a past, but I don't want to see video proof of it! It's the same thing we talked about in Peaceful Life's thread, but it's worst for me here, because I actually liked Lidia and she was already introduced as someone close to the MC. She already is a sexual partner and more than that, not someone you might pursue later on.
Sorry for rambling. I had forgotten about this game and your comment gave me a mild ptsd. :ROFLMAO:
Now that it has been mentioned a few times. I guess some people, such as yourself can see it as borderline NTR. This was not my intention. As you said, I was telling a story. Maybe I was to focused on visualizing it.

I cannot erase something that already has been seen. But I will make a change regarding this scene for future players. I'm sorry this scene ruined the the game for you guys.
 

eddie987

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Now that it has been mentioned a few times. I guess some people, such as yourself can see it as borderline NTR. This was not my intention. As you said, I was telling a story. Maybe I was to focused on visualizing it.

I cannot erase something that already has been seen. But I will make a change regarding this scene for future players. I'm sorry this scene ruined the the game for you guys.
No, no. It has nothing to do with NTR. If I thought it was something like that, the game would've already been in my ignore list. It's just that when someone says that he's not interested in NTR, I don't expect him to show me one of the main girls, if not THE main girl, having sex with someone else, let alone in a MMF threesome, with cumshots and everything. It's a big turn off for me. I instantly lost all interest in that character. Like I said it's like having a girl showing you sextapes she made with her exes. The past is the past, I don't care if she fucked 100 guys before me, but I don't want to see it. It's just how I see it though. Other people might like this stuff. I don't know.
 
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Darkincs

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No, no. It has nothing to do with NTR. If I thought it was something like that, the game would've already been in my ignore list. It's just that when someone says that he's not interested in NTR, I don't expect him to show me one of the main girls, if not THE main girl, having sex with someone else, let alone in a MMF threesome, with cumshots and everything. It's a big turn off for me. I instantly lost all interest in that character. Like I said it's like having a girl showing you sextapes she made with her exes. The past is the past, I don't care if she fucked 100 guys before me, but I don't want to see it. It's just how I see it though. Other people might like this stuff. I don't know.
Gotcha. Thx for the feedback
 
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Now that it has been mentioned a few times. I guess some people, such as yourself can see it as borderline NTR. This was not my intention. As you said, I was telling a story. Maybe I was to focused on visualizing it.

I cannot erase something that already has been seen. But I will make a change regarding this scene for future players. I'm sorry this scene ruined the the game for you guys.
you cannot change what's been seen true. but like eddie said its not true NTR. but his analogy was pretty much on point. everone has a past and there's a difference between seeing it and explaining it. when the change happens i'll come back and continue the game cuz at that point it'll be different no matter how little.

Also my actual question...are all girls gonna be unavoidable or will we have choices eventually. just asking so i know what to expect so im not dissapointed down the line realizing i have no choice but to interact with that girl. dont get me wrong i know its extra work for branching paths so im just curious.
 

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Yeah, I found it weird because the dev said from the start that he's not interested in the 3 letter fetish, so I didn't expect these kind of scenes with any of the love interests. Especially when Lidia is not some random chick you meet once, but the character who is the closest to the MC at this point. It's not NTR, it has nothing to do with it, it happened when the MC was a still a baby and I get that the dev wanted to show how his birth changed her life, but you can do that with words. The visuals weren't necessary in my opinion, no matter how long ago it happened. Why would I want to see someone I'm interested in, not just having sex with someone else, but being double teamed? It's like meeting a girl and after a while she starts showing you videos with her exes! I know she has a past, but I don't want to see video proof of it! It's the same thing we talked about in Peaceful Life's thread, but it's worst for me here, because I actually liked Lidia and she was already introduced as someone close to the MC. She already is a sexual partner and more than that, not someone you might pursue later on.
Sorry for rambling. I had forgotten about this game and your comment gave me a mild ptsd. :ROFLMAO:
yeah if we saw Ami's scene like we did here it woulda been way worse cuz of the whole rape/blackmail thing. my reaction woulda been like "dev wtf you thinking man?" :LOL: but i doubt he's gonna change anything regarding Ami and Koharu. but yeah i liked your Analogy. unless i had a fetish for dating pornstars i dont see a scenario in which i wanna see my girl's sexual past :sneaky:
 

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you cannot change what's been seen true. but like eddie said its not true NTR. but his analogy was pretty much on point. everone has a past and there's a difference between seeing it and explaining it. when the change happens i'll come back and continue the game cuz at that point it'll be different no matter how little.

Also my actual question...are all girls gonna be unavoidable or will we have choices eventually. just asking so i know what to expect so im not dissapointed down the line realizing i have no choice but to interact with that girl. dont get me wrong i know its extra work for branching paths so im just curious.
The main girls will be pretty much unavoidable, since each one will play a big part in the main story. Side characters like the Blackclaws for example will be optional.

I am working on alot of changes, like removing the day 1,2,3 release... concept and going with a day counter and daytimes to give the player more freedom. Also it will be easier for me to implement the hotel side of the game, like management, cash, upgrades etc.

Day 2 will be pretty much useless after the Riffa bathhouse scene, since I'm changing the structure of the game. So as a heads up, have a save game rdy before said scene.

Here is a little preview of the gallery/stat screen.


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The main girls will be pretty much unavoidable, since each one will play a big part in the main story. Side characters like the Blackclaws for example will be optional.

I am working on alot of changes, like removing the day 1,2,3 release... concept and going with a day counter and daytimes to give the player more freedom. Also it will be easier for me to implement the hotel side of the game, like management, cash, upgrades etc.

Day 2 will be pretty much useless after the Riffa bathhouse scene, since I'm changing the structure of the game. So as a heads up, have a save game rdy before said scene.

Here is a little preview of the gallery/stat screen.


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vampire has me bit concerned but not by much. if shes unavoidable then it is what is.

regarding the stats. are they for deciding how you want to build your relatioship with a character? or just for collecting points to unlock scenes focusing on that stat(s).
 

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I am working on alot of changes, like removing the day 1,2,3 release... concept and going with a day counter and daytimes to give the player more freedom. Also it will be easier for me to implement the hotel side of the game, like management, cash, upgrades etc.

yeah... makes sense day1,2,etc releases seem more for story based games rather than sandbox. so yeah seems like a good way to go.(y)
 

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vampire has me bit concerned but not by much. if shes unavoidable then it is what is.

regarding the stats. are they for deciding how you want to build your relatioship with a character? or just for collecting points to unlock scenes focusing on that stat(s).
They will be used as points to be able to unlock scenes, upgrades and hidden scenes depending on stats. They will be used as checkpoints for story/events (But that's just easier for me not to lose sight of what I'm doing)

Let's say for example: To clear the story for a character every stat needs to be 50 points (cap). Then you will be asked if you want to unlock a stat (cap 100 points )Love, Lust, loyalty and Submission. You can only choose 1 stat. let's say you chose Submission. Then you will be able to go the Submission route up to a 100 points, while the others are capped at 50.

That's the general idea. Hope it wasn't too confusing. I don't know when I will put this feature in the game, but at this point it's still too soon.
 

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They will be used as points to be able to unlock scenes, upgrades and hidden scenes depending on stats. They will be used as checkpoints for story/events (But that's just easier for me not to lose sight of what I'm doing)

Let's say for example: To clear the story for a character every stat needs to be 50 points (cap). Then you will be asked if you want to unlock a stat (cap 100 points )Love, Lust, loyalty and Submission. You can only choose 1 stat. let's say you chose Submission. Then you will be able to go the Submission route up to a 100 points, while the others are capped at 50.

That's the general idea. Hope it wasn't too confusing. I don't know when I will put this feature in the game, but at this point it's still too soon.
nah that pretty much answers my question.
 

Moonis

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I liked the setting. It has nice sense of wonder that I like. Magic and hot girls. I'll be waiting for more scenes with the hot blonde fox girl. She's my favourite lookswise, but that mother/daughter catgirl pair comes close to perfection as well. Btw. their nipples were glowing?? Perhaps tune brightness down a bit.

Story advanced perhaps bit too fast. At some point it was just jumping from sex scene to another.

Once we got to freeroaming part game structure fell apart a bit. You could play same Kyiaomi story again and start other stories also again, but at least those others said you need to wait for day 3. Pure Visual Novel would be better than this mess.

I also noted few typoes:
securtity -> security
stardted -> started
buisness -> business
buisiness -> business (three times?)
definetly -> definitely (twice)

Despite criticism I liked the game and I saw from those preview pictures that there's some good changes coming along.

Btw. There was male angel in the backstory. It would be nice to see hot female angels at some point :love:
Gotta have some balance against those succubi.
 

AdiXv2k

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Once we got to freeroaming part game structure fell apart a bit. You could play same Kyiaomi story again and start other stories also again, but at least those others said you need to wait for day 3. Pure Visual Novel would be better than this mess.
I think, that right now the game balances between the VN style and the Freeroam style so it's a little bit messy. But dev said that he's working on changing the structure a little so it should be better soon ;)

The scene we are talking about will be changed, along with some other stuff, since it makes most of the players feel uncomfortable.
The main problem with this scene is that, it is with the girl you presented as our fiancee, if that scene was with, for example the cat leader people wouldn't mind as much. Personally I don't like sluts so after hearing her past I lost interest in her. (visualisation doesn't really affect it)

Was that cat maid a virgin? She said something along "no one ever did that to me" when MC was fingering her. If so it's a little bit weird, that her first time was piledriver position (wouldn't it be painful for a virgin? hell, even for girls with a little experience it could be uncomfortable)

For me the sex scenes with main characters are too soon, it's understandable with witch, but maybe the new characters should have some build-up before them.

I don't know how I feel about that elf girl. The fact that she was our father wife makes it a little bit weird, but maybe that's just me.

I like the game so far, glad you're removing this day-type release system (it's good when you're making a VN, but bad when it comes to Freeroam games)
 

DrFree

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Ah, reading this page 4 exchange between devs and fans makes me glad I am new in the game.
Since there are clear Harem Hotel comparisons, I will say that its fulled with "best girl" material, including Maria, who had a known promiscuous past before meeting MC.
Her story ends up being of a sweet girl who wanted love, and just recently found it on MC.
I would still never want to see a video with an ex of hers.

Gratefully the dev understood our concerns, and these 2 fans will hopefully come back later for more content.
 

DrFree

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Ok, after playing it through:
Lidia: "I am your fiance. Did you think I would suck anyone's cock?"
Also Lidia: "So I had this past I am not too proud of."
Me: 81727523_2736035463129328_2515102165291237376_n.jpg
 

Wutzel

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Wow great game ending with day 1 and see day 2 are out yeahh... happy
Looks really promissing and reminds me from the graphics an mythic h. etc. I love it :love: (y)!
Haha great after the slave buying thing with the M... (guy^^) and his chat about family treating, I must thought exactly at Star Treck on a Ferengi. Use your family to make money and use them also to step up with no caution to them, make profit hahaha great.
 
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Lover/Lucky1: April 8
Super Fan/Follower: April 11
Supporter: April 13
Public : April 14

Keep in mind this update has alot of gameplay changes.
After this update, updates will be coming every month.
Please prepare a savegame of the RIFFA BATHHOUSE scene to continue playing. Anything after that will be useless.
 

Darkincs

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Since the uploader is currently unavailable , I can't change this post. I will contact staff about this, but in the meantime if you want to play, you can download it off patreon
 
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