cleanfeel

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Some random comments -
  • This was / is our first game and we picked RenPy as the engine. That was a mistake. If we ever get enough support for the game, we'll switch to unity, but that's a cash issue
  • I (dve) am funding the game 99.9% out of my own pocket. Right now we have about $15 a month in crowd funding
  • I won't tell you how much I have sunk into the game, but it is a lot... like people's annual salary kind of amount
  • We have *tons* of art in the pipeline that is complete, but the code is holding us back
  • Thanks for the tip about `cygwin1.dll' and `minmax.exe' being 64 bit, I'll see if we can get it to 32 bit instead
  • A2 was a known buggy release. There was supposed to be a A2.1 bugfix, but it didn't happen because I lost my job and had to scramble to find work
  • We're back on track for a A2.1 bugfix relatively soon, hopefully soon to be followed by parts of the A3
  • A3 will be when the majority of the core components are in the game. Until then it is fairly limited.

Here are some of the major features that are pipelined for completion:
  • Bordello management - rewrite almost complete
  • Baths - social status - mostly working
  • Law Courts - authoritas/gravitas - needs work and testing
  • Merchants - buy/sell resources - put off for later
  • Farms - Buy / sell resource generation - use skeleton code from bordello
  • Charis - Use Charis for social events - needs more coding
  • Travel - working
  • Quests system - working
  • Time system - working
  • Event system - working
  • Random events - working
  • Generated dialog - working
  • Slave training - working
Yes, I know that the game has taken a ridiculous amount of time to get to this point. I'm funding it out of my pocket for my own enjoyment basically. Later I would love to make money off of it, but not so far. Yes, the game *cannot* be hosted on Patreon, so I have to host a funding platform of my own development - and yes, that added a huge delay. So while I hear the complaints, and there's a lot of validity to them... Unless something changes you'll simply have to accept the slow pace of development.
If money for you is indeed a problem, then perhaps you should consider de-scoping all the features you have there. I rather have a piece of working software that is well done, knows its place, and does exactly what it sought to do than promise 10 things but deliver nothing concrete.

I would say the following are good enough for you to write an amazing game:
  • Bordello management
  • Charis
  • Travel
  • Quests system
  • Time system
  • Event system
  • Random events
  • Generated dialog
  • Slave training
Also have ONE girl first. Oni's trainer game had 1 in the beginning. And that game is near perfection with tons of fans and mods.

I can also help out if you share your repo with me.

Who else is on your team? Are you guys professionals? Amateurs? Your art is definitely outstanding. From my experience, my bottleneck is usually art. Code is generally simpler for me, as I do it professionally.
 
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TopHatZebra

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I'd like to add that this is pretty much not only the only game that I've seen, but also the only porn anywhere I've seen that scratches that perfect itch of historical accuracy and actual realism. The people look like human beings who actually existed in the time period the game is trying to portray, and that is a huge plus for me. The art is great, the plot is interesting, the gameplay looks nice, and it is possibly the single buggiest game I've ever played.

But, keep your chin up, and don't worry about how long it takes. This definitely has the potential to be my favorite game ever.

(Also, on the topic, if anyone has any recommendations for anything similar to this, I would love to hear them.)
 

Pyjak Slayer

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Same issue with me. Game is literally broken. Surprised no one has talked about this more...

@dvemail
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/engine/main_engine.rpy", line 819, in <module>
File "game/engine/main_engine.rpy", line 737, in main_loop
File "game/bordello.rpy", line 473, in new_half_hour
File "game/bordello.rpy", line 396, in new_day
File "game/bordello.rpy", line 874, in update_occupant_mood
AttributeError: can't set attribute

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "engine/main_engine.rpyc", line 818, in script
File "C:\Users\J\Desktop\Games\1\Patronus\Patronus\renpy\ast.py", line 862, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "C:\Users\J\Desktop\Games\1\Patronus\Patronus\renpy\python.py", line 1888, in py_exec_bytecode
exec bytecode in globals, locals
File "game/engine/main_engine.rpy", line 819, in <module>
File "game/engine/main_engine.rpy", line 737, in main_loop
File "game/bordello.rpy", line 473, in new_half_hour
File "game/bordello.rpy", line 396, in new_day
File "game/bordello.rpy", line 874, in update_occupant_mood
File "C:\Users\J\Desktop\Games\1\Patronus\Patronus\renpy\python.py", line 713, in do_mutation
return method(self, *args, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\J\Desktop\Games\1\Patronus\Patronus\renpy\python.py", line 1014, in __setattr__
object.__setattr__(self, attr, value)
AttributeError: can't set attribute

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 6.99.14.3.3347
Patronus Trunk
Sun Feb 17 02:10:27 2019
 
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215303j

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Some random comments
Thanks for being so open.

I really, *REALLY* like the game and hope you succeed.

In order to get more money, I would suggest:
- On your website, change the heading "Register" to "Donate", I found it quite hard to find out how to donate to this game. Due to personal reasons I can't donate at the moment, sorry...
- More frequent, smaller updates to keep the attention. To be brutally honest, I kind of forgot about this game, then remembered it, looked it up and found out that you released an update which I somehow missed.

Another slave trainer game set in ancient Rome:

is presently making $7,014 on Patreon.

Your game is much better that that one, so don't lose hope!

Here are some of the major features that are pipelined for completion
Without having played the latest version, it looks to me that some of these features may not be absolutely necessary for enjoyment of this game. I would suggest to make it a bit more simple in order to be able to provide steady story upgrades to keep people interested.

More or less the same what @cleanfeel said.
 

dvemail

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We are pretty much done now with the major internals. The A2.5 release might well drop this weekend (March 3, 2019). Once A2.5 drops, we will be able to do several rapid content updates. There are still a couple of major developments for the game, one of which is to include actual animations. We'll see how that unfolds.
 

Moosy

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What are you on about? I'm reporting a bug. Relax, lmfao.
Yeah, sorry about that. It felt kinda like a complaint the first time I read, but it wasn't disrespectful. Mah bad.


And man, the art on this one is incredible. Also really interesting theme. Once it gets to a stable beta it will be fair to monetize it.
 

dvemail

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The A2.5 full release is now available for members on the site. We will release a public build some time later on.

This build has a ton of fixes and enhancements.
All of the major game components (at least the really hard ones) are now in place and our release cadence will now be more content driven. Significant enhancements include:
  • Game event engine working
  • Game quest events working
  • Quest system implemented
  • All new rewrite of the dialog system working
  • Training dialogs now use emotion stats
  • Pan and Zoom working
  • New location - Basilica
  • Become a (probably terrible) Lawyer in Roma!
  • Updated code for Baths Location
  • Socialize, meet people, defame them
  • (Rumors about a person at baths is not working yet)
  • Debugged the 'end of day' event issues
  • Many, many small issues in language, wording, etc.
The members only release will remain up until the end of the month.
 

dvemail

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Oh, and by the way - This game is built with compressed and distributed assets. Some dude from F95 tried to make his own version of the game and it was a buggy mess. We will not be debugging other versions of the game.
 
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dvemail

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What content is in the game currently?
Almost complete bordello management, slave training includes massage, bathing, hand job, tit fuck. Also content at baths and law courts. Dialog with multiple NPCs and several locations.

We will drop the public access build of A2.5 on Sunday. Please be aware that this build works from an installer. Also, almost certainly some one on here will attempt to 'fix' the game in any number of possible ways. Just like in the prior build, we believe that this will introduce a huge amount of broken shit. If possible, we'd like the actual release version of the game to be separated from the 'fixed' version really clearly for users. Also, we will not support the F95 hacked version in any way at all. If you want our support and fixes, use the released version only.

Also, as always we encourage you to become a supporter of our game. We just added subscribestar as a payment portal, as you can see from our site, and / or

None of us devs have a 32 bit machine - only 64 bit, but we are attempting to supply the installer in a 32 bit build. One error we've seen is the 'no permission' error - either install to a different location or use admin perms seems to work.
 

dvemail

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Here is a link for Patronus Alpha v2.5 This link will only be good until Wednesday. For the admins of F95, you might want to update the thread, as the game was renamed Patronus from Imperator quite some time ago.

Disclosure!!!
The prior A1 release was 'fixed' by someone on F95, resulting in it being completely broken. Don't expect any support from the dev team for anything but the official release. If you run into issues, we have a discord for you to report them: Please use the #shitshow channel to report errors/crashes. You can use the #general channel to ask for play help.

Content:
Please note that this is NOT a new content release, it is a game engine release. The game content remains essentially the same except we've added a really ugly tit-fuck scene, and there's now added capability at the baths, and new features -> Law Courts.

Warning:
Yes, there's a lot of really bad/weird content stuff... don't remind us.
  • The Boobjob scene is just plain bad
  • The defense/prosecution strings in the Law Court are pretty badly mangled
  • Rumors in Baths are also mangled
  • The income/expense stuff in the bordello is still a little weird but much better than it was
  • Interrupting certain things can result in odd behavior
  • Clients in the bordello aren't quite right yet
If all of this puts you off from the game, then so be it. We're a tiny team and I am paying for development out of my pocket. The next several releases will fix/complete the existing capabilities and add new content. We're specifically targeting the following:
  • Begin Charis / Husband quest that eventually can lead to incest
  • Add more sex scenes for Fasti - Ass job, vaginal, anal
  • Improve / Replace the mini-game that people don't seem to like
  • Begin addition of second slave in bordello
  • Add additional skill trainers
 
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Good stuff! I can't wait to play it. Unfortunately not before tomorrow though...

One question: why did you choose for an installer rather than a zip file?
 

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Patronus [Alpha 2.5] [DVE Games] is up and published. I can't update the cover pic due to lack of permission, so I asked from a mod to do it.
 
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