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Zivah only has healing skills and a limited Manapool... she isn't much of a fighter at all, Erevi atleast knows some fire and lightning skills... and after our exploration of the Cult (as in Sect) of death probably also some dark skills.
the Succubus is a temptress and posses some fire attack skills... still she self admittendly is for love not war.
to be far, that was the ziva before the ritual that awoke Quetesh, if you tried to bring the succubus to the temple she was scared of the place. Perhaps with Quetesh's awakening, Ziva gained new powers. perhaps her healing spells can now hurt demons
 
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to be far, that was the ziva before the ritual that awoke Quetesh, if you tried to bring the succubus to the temple she was scared of the place. Perhaps with Quetesh's awakening, Ziva gained new powers. perhaps her healing spells can now hurt demons
More likely is that the Succubus did sence the presence of Qetesh in the temple and considered it a powerful hostile presence
 
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Zivah only has healing skills and a limited Manapool... she isn't much of a fighter at all, Erevi atleast knows some fire and lightning skills... and after our exploration of the Cult (as in Sect) of death probably also some dark skills.
the Succubus is a temptress and posses some fire attack skills... still she self admittendly is for love not war.
The Familiar was attached to the MC and is feeding upon his power, the initial ritual to bind the 2 probably took some Power from Nergal but after that it's the MCs task to keep her alive (likely also a reason why she is so goddamn horny ;) ).
No Erevi said that both the MC and her familiars are being sustained by Nergal in and earlier dialogue
 

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No Erevi said that both the MC and her familiars are being sustained by Nergal in and earlier dialogue
Also Ziva was in the war and it sounded like Nergal had to personally curse her. She could easily kill the MC in their first encounter even in her cursed stated (not much of an accomplishment) I think we have not seen Ziva in combat mode yet.
 

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No Erevi said that both the MC and her familiars are being sustained by Nergal in and earlier dialogue
Can't really remember that... also why would Nergal sustain the MC?
It's not like they fused their essence or are bound by soul... the familiar lives in the meta world which the Protal network connects to, she only had to be summoned by the MC, that however requires a strong enough magical pressence... Nergal lend his pressence to the MC to call for his familiar, she later evolves based on the MCs preferrences as familiars try their best to bind themselfes to a powerful master that sustains them, his children are unbound and need to live in the Meta world until the MC builds a focus point in the Tower that allows them to remain there until they are old enough to find themselves their own masters or mistresses.
Also Ziva was in the war and it sounded like Nergal had to personally curse her. She could easily kill the MC in their first encounter even in her cursed stated (not much of an accomplishment) I think we have not seen Ziva in combat mode yet.
Zivah was alive dureing the war and wittnessed the chaos and destruction, though there is no mentioning of her being an active combatant, her low Level and lack of even halfway decent equipment are a pretty goood indicator aswell.
She had a jump on the distracted and still green Peasant, a knife on his throat and the thread of being cursed for eternity should he attempt anything stupid.
I remember in some lores that's actually a things to kill unnatural being you actually use healing.
Healing haveing a detrimental effect in fantasy lore is soley for the undead, and as far as I recall the Wraith in the Cult of the Death hideout were vurneable to healing aswell (not sure about the Zombies and thralls in the graveyard).
 

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Healing haveing a detrimental effect in fantasy lore is soley for the undead, and as far as I recall the Wraith in the Cult of the Death hideout were vurneable to healing aswell (not sure about the Zombies and thralls in the graveyard).
the holy hand grenades are just sacred water bombs, and based on their effects, it's safe to assume that demons, undead, ghouls and plauewolves are suscettible to healing damage
 

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the holy hand grenades are just sacred water bombs, and based on their effects, it's safe to assume that demons, undead, ghouls and plauewolves are suscettible to healing damage
...holy water has no healing effects, it's literally water imbuessed with holy Magic.
Every Character in the game has a healing ability and your familiar even has the strong healing ability (same as Zivah).
While Light Magic is effective against any creature with the darkness attribute it has no healing effect on creatures without that attribute.
At best it's used as a medium to bless someone with the power of a deity or to remove curses.
 
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Too me Nergal is still using a lot of energy on the familiar and then on each baby she has. Looking at the stats only Alice and Caleah while have a hard time against the succubus. Pretty sure Ziva can go toe to toe with Erevi.
Once a Familiar is Bonded Nergal dosent need to keep expending power to keep them their. It is tethered by him using "a large amount of power" to do so.

The babies remain on this plane by breast feeding so Nergal isnt tethering them. Hence the baby disappears once its weened off. He also isnt keeping their later, that's all the magic orb you found.
 

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Can't really remember that... also why would Nergal sustain the MC?
It's not like they fused their essence or are bound by soul... the familiar lives in the meta world which the Protal network connects to, she only had to be summoned by the MC, that however requires a strong enough magical pressence... Nergal lend his pressence to the MC to call for his familiar, she later evolves based on the MCs preferrences as familiars try their best to bind themselfes to a powerful master that sustains them, his children are unbound and need to live in the Meta world until the MC builds a focus point in the Tower that allows them to remain there until they are old enough to find themselves their own masters or mistresses.

Zivah was alive dureing the war and wittnessed the chaos and destruction, though there is no mentioning of her being an active combatant, her low Level and lack of even halfway decent equipment are a pretty goood indicator aswell.
She had a jump on the distracted and still green Peasant, a knife on his throat and the thread of being cursed for eternity should he attempt anything stupid.

Healing haveing a detrimental effect in fantasy lore is soley for the undead, and as far as I recall the Wraith in the Cult of the Death hideout were vurneable to healing aswell (not sure about the Zombies and thralls in the graveyard).
Not the MC, his familiar and Balrog. Is the convo during the Transformation quest with Erevi
 

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Also Ziva was in the war and it sounded like Nergal had to personally curse her. She could easily kill the MC in their first encounter even in her cursed stated (not much of an accomplishment) I think we have not seen Ziva in combat mode yet.
I remember in some lores that's actually a things to kill unnatural being you actually use healing.
Well Ziva has the same healing abilities as MC & he can heal his Succubus daughter with them so I dont think Ziva can heal-kill her... also Ziva (as hag) gets the drop on MC, sneak attacking him with a knife. Later she isnt that tough as a companion.

No idea if she will be a stronger companion NOW once she is reconnected with Qetesh.
 
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