I admit my earlier post is a bit harsh, but there aren't many good games with this genre and specific fetish so I felt compelled to say something in hopes that this game won't become just like most of the others.
IF, as you say, "There is actually a wide variety of forced fem/femdom content (in porn) which only includes one (sub) male and one or more females (doms/subs)", then why are you trying to make this game more like that? If there aren't any games that you really want, why not make one of your own and share it with all the fans of that genre/fetish? Put up a patreon and get a little extra spending money for just a hobby making a game out of something you are compassionate about?
Despite our differences in preferences, I will say without a doubt you would be an excellent writer, but I do not know how good of a smut writer you would be. Why not test your skills? Making an html game with Twine is quite easy to learn and there are tons of help all over the internet. Spend a day. Challenge yourself to spend one good day at it and see if you can come up with something you think is at least "not bad" for a first time. If you are pleased with that much effort, then why not continue, post on here and other sites, put up a patreon and try to do something that a lot of developers are not doing, match your personal tastes.
P.S. I should take my own advice and make my own game, as well. I plan to as soon as my life is a bit more stable. I have too much going on right now to give it the effort I feel it deserves which is the only way I would be happy with the results. I plan on making my game a lifelong project. That's how serious I am, but I just can't do it till I get my life straightened out, first. It would be irrespsonsible of me, otherwise.
The core of the game is forced feminisation, its exploration, how MC deals with it and how the world starts to deal with MC. And I don't think one can explore every aspect without throwing MF (and especially femdom) into the mix. It can be about change of gender dynamic, humiliation play, a new ways of approaching a romantic relationship, take your pick.
The opposite is also true. Sissification without an actual dicking feels shallow. One can argue that the whole point of ForcedFem is making the sissy accept that she is at least Bisexual. And of course there's the exploration of new dynamics and other fun stuff I've already mentioned.
I'm going to assume that the devs are avare of that and won't completely neglect one aspect of ForFem and its respective audience for the sake of another.
I actually had an initial answer that was including this, especially how women in sissification have an important role and shouldn't be banned, or that including them is not a contradiction. But I ended up scraping it because I felt like I was going nowhere.
I'm all for adding content to the game, even if the content doesn't appeal to me (just like the very niche fetishes that you can disable if you want to). However what's being pushed for, and for quite some time now, is that the central content of the game should be treated as an optional fetish, which was never the case.
If it was all about diversifying what the game is about, I'd be on board, although I'd still wish we had our priorities straight. Right now it doesn't seem like that's what the conversation is about.
I started with PE 8800, so I have no knowledge of previous versions nor the original game focus besides what was posted in this thread. The descriptions both on TFGamesSite and the OP are rather neutral and do not highlight MM content.
Perverted Education is an erotic game in which the main character, an ordinary student of indeterminate (but legal) age, is slowly pulled from his ordinary life into the twisted depths of a female-led, submissive lifestyle. The corrupting tutelage of three influential women - his Teacher, Guardian and Therapist - will take him on a gradual, yet life-altering journey of physical and psychological transformation.
The game centers on the themes of forced feminization, corruption, humiliation and submission. A range of other fetish content is also implemented that can be toggled according to player tastes.
"Forced Feminization" in a femdom relation does not necessarily include MM-actions. There is a wide variety of content (in porn) which only includes one (sub) male and one or more females (doms/subs).
A few posts ago you actually implied that not being into MM content in a game about forced sissification is the same as not being into smelling armpits in a game about forced sissification.
I don't remember any posts about "smelling armpits". Maybe you can link it.
As mentioned above : "forced feminization" in a femdom relation does not necessarily include MM-content.
I will never, ever understand why people keep following a game that, since the very beginning, had forced street prostitution with MALE customers as an end game, waiting for it to suddenly entirely flip and have a completely different storyline.
I started with PE 8800.
I play many games and after I have played a game I often have a deeper look into the game mechanics, strategies, trying out different paths, etc.
The "forced street prostitution with MALE customers" is usually an avoidable task from teacher among many other optional (perverted) tasks. It is not "the main" end content of PE 8800. The coach content (minigame) on the other side is an unavoidable content if the player wants to progress with both teacher perversion and daring level. Since PE 8800 also features (unfinished) female best friend and cheerleader content as well as different MF encounters (Roxy, club), I cannot know if the final game will solely focus on MM content.
Is there any chance saying "we're sorry you're into femdom but not really part of the target audience of this specific game" will settle this once and for all? I think you've made it clear you didn't want MM content a while ago already.
Who defined the "target audience" and where?
Can the definition of PE's "target audience" change over time?
Is it possible that the (new) devs have a different vision of "target audience" than the (old) self-proclaimed "target audience"?
As mentioned in another post : Why would the devs add more MF-content if the "target audience" is focused only on MM?
If the devs have a clear vision of a small "target audience", they should include it in the game description to avoid misunderstandings.
Your post can be interpreted as a (polite) request to leave this thread/discussion to no longer bother the self-proclaimed "target audience". Please let the devs clarify the "target audience".
But there really isn't. As far I know, there isn't an option to actually have sex with the teacher blackmailing you. And, even if there's non-MM content that was added recently, it doesn't change what the whole game is about entirely. Wether you like it or not, MM is what the game leads to, and it's not treated as a "watersports" box you can uncheck if you want.
I have the impression that there is already too much MF-content in the game to claim it solely as a gay game which leads the mc finally to MM-end-content. Maybe in the final version things will look different.
Maybe if the game was officially completed, you could push for content that completely deviates from what the game is going for. Right now it would be efforts that would delay the release of a 1.0.
I am not a patron. I am not "pushing" for content.
As a player and forum member I share my subjective opinion and ideas about the game and give feedback which the devs can use or reject. However in contradiction to other games the audience in this thread is "special".
PE is a combination of a linear story (teacher corruption) with some avoidable elements (guardian corruption), a task- and punishment system and a sandbox-like environment where the player can earn money, buy clothes, define his outfit (wardrobe) and body modifications, organize his free time with working, shopping, training, visiting friends, playing games, masturbating, etc.
The introduction of "endings" of any type does not really fit the sandbox character of the game. If you play 100-200 days and build up a wardrobe, buy your permanent modifications, make friends, etc., you usually don't want the game to end but to allow you to play on and repeat scenes you like and maybe even get new content with an update.
I would emphasize the sandbox aspect more. After completing the initial story and so unlocking the essential elements, the player should have the freedom to "reset" relations with teacher, guardian and therapist, create his individual style (e.g. sissy, slut, girly, tomboy, vamp, trap, ...) and concentrate more on optional content of his own preferences (MM, MMM, MF, FF, MFF, ... sub/dom/romantic). This content would consist of small independant groups of events with an initial event (e.g. introduce new person or change relation with a known person) which unlocks a number of repeatable events. The events would be available as options by visiting a specific place at a specific time of day, similar to some of the current events, e.g. visiting best friend or the club.
Completing several event groups would allow the player to build up his individual "harem" of sexual relationships (repeatable scenes) based on player preferences.
Example :
The player visits the shop, meets Roxy (or a gay equivalent), they have sex (depending on mc's chastity status) and as repeatable events mc can now find Roxy every day in the shop or at weekend night in the club. Having repeated sex with her may unlock new scenes, e.g. dance with Roxy or have sex with her in the club toilet.
Since these event groups would be independent, they could be easily implemented and updated as long as the base game (sandbox) is not modified.
I would not mind if the devs would first add tons of more (repeatable, optional) MM, MMM events for the "target" audience, as long as they would later also add more (repeatable, optional) MF, FF, MFF events for the "other" audience.
"Forced Feminization" in a femdom context does not necessarily include MM-content. There is a wide variety of forced fem/femdom content (in porn) which only includes one (sub) male and one or more females, so for non-gay people the claimed "mandatory" connection between "Forced Fem" and MM content does not exist.
So the dicking (MM) request seems to be more an individual preference (fetish) than a mandatory (unavoidable) requirement for forced fem.
Forced Feminization or forced sex in general do not change the sexual orientation of person. Otherwise you could just rape a male person to turn him gay/bi or rape a lesbian to turn her bi/straight or let a dominatrix rape a gay person to turn him straight/bi. That (= the previous sentence) is dangerous nonsense.
The mc starts as a straight person and even at the end of current content he is focussed on females. MC's reaction on MM content is mostly based on the brain washing by therapist videos.
I think it would be easiest to allow the player to select sexual preferences in the game which define the individual sexual orientation of mc at the end of the game, e.g. when selecting gay preference the mc would turn from straight to gay while progressing the story (and the game would show more MM- and less MF-content) and the mc would react differently on MM events, etc.
I think I pretty much agree with everything f96zonetrooper is saying
The thing to remember here is the fans requesting for a straight path aren't requesting the MM content to be deleted, bumped aside or replaced, the request is for an alternative path is merely so fans who have no interest in MM content can avoid it and enjoy completing the final stage of the game. I really don't understand why so many fetishes made it to the list of being optional and yet sexuality which is so highly polarising is forced.
I don't think you're gonna get that answer here. ~X~ is no longer active here, and he was the only dev that ever came here in the first place. They have an official Discord where you can offer your feedback and see about an answer to your question. Feel free to share it with all of us if you get one.
PE is a combination of a linear story (teacher corruption) with some avoidable elements (guardian corruption), a task- and punishment system and a sandbox-like environment where the player can earn money, buy clothes, define his outfit (wardrobe) and body modifications, organize his free time with working, shopping, training, visiting friends, playing games, masturbating, etc.
The introduction of "endings" of any type does not really fit the sandbox character of the game. If you play 100-200 days and build up a wardrobe, buy your permanent modifications, make friends, etc., you usually don't want the game to end but to allow you to play on and repeat scenes you like and maybe even get new content with an update.
I would emphasize the sandbox aspect more. After completing the initial story and so unlocking the essential elements, the player should have the freedom to "reset" relations with teacher, guardian and therapist, create his individual style (e.g. sissy, slut, girly, tomboy, vamp, trap, ...) and concentrate more on optional content of his own preferences (MM, MMM, MF, FF, MFF, ... sub/dom/romantic). This content would consist of small independant groups of events with an initial event (e.g. introduce new person or change relation with a known person) which unlocks a number of repeatable events. The events would be available as options by visiting a specific place at a specific time of day, similar to some of the current events, e.g. visiting best friend or the club.
Completing several event groups would allow the player to build up his individual "harem" of sexual relationships (repeatable scenes) based on player preferences.
PE isn't intended to be a sandbox experience, and I doubt the devs are gonna change gears and make it one. It's meant to be a kinda life-sim-light visual novel. Endings were something that the game was always intended to have, it just took them a very long time to get to one.
What you're suggesting here is basically a brand new game. It's a huge number of changes to core systems that the devs have already said they don't want to touch for fear of breaking everything. I'd be interested in playing this new game if you make it though.
I think I pretty much agree with everything f96zonetrooper is saying
The thing to remember here is the fans requesting for a straight path aren't requesting the MM content to be deleted, bumped aside or replaced, the request is for an alternative path is merely so fans who have no interest in MM content can avoid it and enjoy completing the final stage of the game. I really don't understand why so many fetishes made it to the list of being optional and yet sexuality which is so highly polarising is forced.
I get what they're saying. Unfortunately the answer to getting options to avoid the M/M content is and will probably remain no. This isn't the first time I've seen people asking for an alternative to the M/M content. That's why they implemented the shemale mode in the first place as a compromise.
The game was built around a certain view of femdom and sissification. M/M content was a big part of that view. That content is also pretty much hard coded into the core of the game. No one on the team currently sees it as an important enough change for the amount of work it would take to deliver the option.
Some people would rather be playing a different game than the one in front of them. That's OK, if not a terribly interesting topic of discussion after the third page of it. But as for the minigames, they're pretty easy to cheat through by just looking at the html source. I've just grabbed these from an old file:
I don't know whether I should pity ~X~ for having to go through these walls of text or assume that he is having a great time reading this thread.
But back to the topic at hand.
Both MM fans and MF fans are the target audience. Current devs produce both MM and MF content and try to cater to both audiences. I already said what I think about the possibility to please everyone, but it's the thought that counts.
If we're taking dev's biases into account, the old dev team was leaning towards MM, this one at the moment leans towards MF.
The team won't abandon one side of coin for the sake of another because both MM and MF have their place in PE.
Forced Feminization or forced sex in general do not change the sexual orientation of person. Otherwise you could just rape a male person to turn him gay/bi or rape a lesbian to turn her bi/straight or let a dominatrix rape a gay person to turn him straight/bi. That (= the previous sentence) is dangerous nonsense.
The mc starts as a straight person and even at the end of current content he is focussed on females. MC's reaction on MM content is mostly based on the brain washing by therapist videos.
Yeah, I'm aware. Orientation won't "change" unless an actual extensive brainwashing is involved, and I don't mean an hour of flashy gifs. My exact wording was "Forced to accept the orientation". The closest, if not the prettiest analogy would be a Conversion Camp. Except for the fact that in PE there is a family-friendly (sort of) brainwashing to speed up the process. Constant feminisation and anal stimulation paired with unresolved sexual frustration probably play their parts too.
In the end, MC is forced into a spectum, but in the end he's still a hetero-leaning Bisexual that is probably attracted more to a dick than an actual male. His gay-leaningness and MM acts that he commits by choice and not by teacher's push is for the player to decide in the endgame.
And for the love of all that is holy, can y'all stop with "MC turns gay"? No amount of brainwashing and traumas would stop this horny bastard's love and lust for boobs and women's attention. The term you're looking for is "Bisexual, gay-leaning".
"Forced Feminization" in a femdom relation does not necessarily include MM-actions. There is a wide variety of content (in porn) which only includes one (sub) male and one or more females (doms/subs).
This is generally true, but PE is an exception to this rule. Mostly because the old team wanted to explore ForcedFem much more thoroughly. Notice that the femdom setting in PE was set in stone by the team that catered to MM audience more that current team. They knew that ForcedFem is not limited to the change of dynamic between a sissy and females around him, it extends to other, "normal" males as well.
The thing is, we live in a society™ where the demand for boobs and pussy among porn consumers is greater than the demand for dick. Hence, the fact that ForcedFem can include and explore itself through MM content is often overlooked. Mainly because in most games with femdom setting MM content is, as you noted and I rephrased, a pebble on a sidewalk.
And THIS is where, in my opinion, lies the reason why Perverted Education is so popular with the people that prefer MM content. PE has a femdom foundation, but it doesn't hide it's MM in a closet like most of the games of this genre tend to do. At the certain point it shows a middle finger to the tendency to sweep MM content under a rug. The MC is hesitant, even with therapy, but his hesitation is just right. His actual sexuality is ambiguous enough to headcanon him as Bi-curious or Bi in denial.
And you have no idea how fucking wonderful and refreshing it feels to just be able to explore so many different scenes or a fully thought-out goddamn ARK of MM content.
Because most of the time in such games gay content is treated as an "extreme fetish" on par with foot fetish and smelling armpits. There's barely any content (and ironically the stuff like foot fetish can even outnumber MM) but the devs STILL have to tell people in the comments that The Small Gay is avoidable and the poor commenter doesn't have to play as a fruit.
Coding error during the scene where the cheerleader friend has you over at their house:
"The two of them engage in arguing for a bit while you crane your neck around them to look into the room. The room is pretty sparse compared to $cheerFriend.names,"
I don't think you're gonna get that answer here. ~X~ is no longer active here, and he was the only dev that ever came here in the first place. They have an official Discord where you can offer your feedback and see about an answer to your question. Feel free to share it with all of us if you get one.
I think that some pages back where the PE 8800 release notes were posted that ~X~ mentioned that he is busy with other RL projects until maybe end of the year.
Unlike some others, I really don't have a problem with the "gayness" of the game. This is explicitly labeled feminization after all.
I even understand the developer's decision to make the player character reluctant with the whole ordeal; the game is about forced feminization.
What does raise my eyebrows (well, just some of it) is that the women seem to have an inordinate amount of interest feminizing the character. I understand that it's a fetish in pornography, and maybe some women really do get their rocks off by feminizing a guy, but I just can't wrap my mind around it. What do the therapist, the mother/babysitter, and the teacher gain by turning the character not just into a woman, but a sex-crazed woman too? I mean, wouldn't that just leave them sexually unsatisfied as well?
One other thing I don't like, is how the teacher decides to lose one of the primary methods of motivating the person. I'm talking about requiring the character to go for extended periods locked in a chastity cage. Maybe it's just me, but that fetish really doesn't appeal to me; besides, one of the biggest carrots you can wave in front of a horny teenager is sexual relief. It's hard to believe that any amount of blackmail can be enough to force the kid to stay in the cage. Besides, it just sounds so unsanitary.
I'm also wondering why the storyline of the bestfriend seems stalled for so long. Every time I visit him, I keep hoping he molests the shit out of me, but he's almost a perfect gentleman. It's so irritating that you have to go to the coach for anal sex, when there's just not a lot of emotional investment in him. I don't mind being fucked by my mom/babysitter, I wouldn't mind being fucked by the teacher. But the coach and even that saleswoman even get their turns before poor sweet Joshua does.
What does raise my eyebrows (well, just some of it) is that the women seem to have an inordinate amount of interest feminizing the character. I understand that it's a fetish in pornography, and maybe some women really do get their rocks off by feminizing a guy, but I just can't wrap my mind around it. What do the therapist, the mother/babysitter, and the teacher gain by turning the character not just into a woman, but a sex-crazed woman too? I mean, wouldn't that just leave them sexually unsatisfied as well?
I'm also wondering why the storyline of the bestfriend seems stalled for so long. Every time I visit him, I keep hoping he molests the shit out of me, but he's almost a perfect gentleman. It's so irritating that you have to go to the coach for anal sex, when there's just not a lot of emotional investment in him. I don't mind being fucked by my mom/babysitter, I wouldn't mind being fucked by the teacher. But the coach and even that saleswoman even get their turns before poor sweet Joshua does.
I always saw it like this : The teacher is actually the one with the fetish and kinda "forced" her vision for your punishment on your babysitter/mom and after a while she started to enjoy it too.
As for the therapist, i always thought she was testing a "new" method of therapy that is mostly in relation with your "problem" ("you have a problem with feminization, try this to see if it helps", that kind of thing), but maybe it's just me.
In the case of the best friend however, it's supposed to be the "nice, gentle and wholesome route", so probably no rape there.
Unlike some others, I really don't have a problem with the "gayness" of the game. This is explicitly labeled feminization after all.
I even understand the developer's decision to make the player character reluctant with the whole ordeal; the game is about forced feminization.
What does raise my eyebrows (well, just some of it) is that the women seem to have an inordinate amount of interest feminizing the character. I understand that it's a fetish in pornography, and maybe some women really do get their rocks off by feminizing a guy, but I just can't wrap my mind around it. What do the therapist, the mother/babysitter, and the teacher gain by turning the character not just into a woman, but a sex-crazed woman too? I mean, wouldn't that just leave them sexually unsatisfied as well?
That might be an extremely unlikely occurrence in the real world, having several non-closely-associated people (not friends who think and scheme alike) trying to dominate and feminize the MC at the same time in the same town. That will require suspension of disbelief. Understanding the fetish is difficult, unless you also have some sort of appreciation for it. Maybe, the MC is just so cute and girly from the beginning that the people around him are all thinking, "He should have been born a girl, what a shame!". Maybe they found a toy to play dress-up with to make him even cuter. If the feelings are strong enough, that might lead a few taking action in an attempt to make right what was so wrong in their minds. Cute is justice! LOL What do the people get out of feminizing the MC? I don't think they ever depended on the MC for sexual gratification in a normal way. They are dominating, he is submitting, so they feel better about themselves. They feel superior and that feeling can bring a huge rush of euphoria.
One other thing I don't like, is how the teacher decides to lose one of the primary methods of motivating the person. I'm talking about requiring the character to go for extended periods locked in a chastity cage. Maybe it's just me, but that fetish really doesn't appeal to me; besides, one of the biggest carrots you can wave in front of a horny teenager is sexual relief. It's hard to believe that any amount of blackmail can be enough to force the kid to stay in the cage. Besides, it just sounds so unsanitary.
I agree, I think rewards an punishments can be a bit messed up in these games. But, there is mental conditioning that has been going on for a while by the time the MC has the Chasity cage. The MC is being taught that having a boner is unladylike and unacceptable. Since, they really want to dominate him, they need to emasculate him. If a man is emasculated, he loses his male role, identity, or qualities. They are trying to retrain his brain and change what he believes is good for reward and punishment. By forcing him to wear that cage for a long period, depriving him of orgasm, he becomes more willing to do as they ask in hopes for a reward, to finally be released. In other words, "IF you do this extra girly thing, I'll release that Chasity Cage." I agree with the unsanitary comment. That, too, will require suspension of disbelief. In practice, the sissy would be allowed to take it off to use the bathroom and to clean it, but not to jerk off. It's about orgasm denial and emasculation, after all.
I'm also wondering why the storyline of the bestfriend seems stalled for so long. Every time I visit him, I keep hoping he molests the shit out of me, but he's almost a perfect gentleman. It's so irritating that you have to go to the coach for anal sex, when there's just not a lot of emotional investment in him. I don't mind being fucked by my mom/babysitter, I wouldn't mind being fucked by the teacher. But the coach and even that saleswoman even get their turns before poor sweet Joshua does.
There really isn't any good sex in this game, if you ask me. It's extremely disappointing. It's endless build up but never a finisher. There really should be lots of sex in this game by now! Since, they already decided to add content for a wider audience, they probably need to add a lot of sex scenes from each genre. It's been years now, come on! LOL
Personally, I like the pretty girly sissy princess style of feminization rather than what may seem typical of the genre. Be gentle! I don't want to be abused or mistreated as I feel it is uneccessary and extreme and would cause more misery than pleasure, though some folks aren't able to distinguish from the two. I believe they call them masochists. That's a hard one to understand.
Maybe, when the friend finally does take the MC, he will treat her like a goddess, and it will be a mutually mind blowing sex scene we have all been waiting for! He will teach her what it feels like to be a woman. He will make her his woman with heavenly erotic bliss!
Personally, I like the pretty girly sissy princess style of feminization rather than what may seem typical of the genre. Be gentle! I don't want to be abused or mistreated as I feel it is uneccessary and extreme and would cause more misery than pleasure, though some folks aren't able to distinguish from the two. I believe they call them masochists. That's a hard one to understand.
Oh yes, I understand that the point of this game is forced feminization, but I keep wishing that there's a way to ease the character into it. More carrots, less sticks. Like, by the time my character starts wearing girl's flats or somewhere along that point, I just want him to tell the others: "okay, I understand. You want me to be a sissy. Look, I'm not saying no, just asking for some time to breath before I take the plunge. Just ease off on the pushing, because I think my messed-up head actually likes this."
And I feel like the least they could do if the character agrees, is to reward him with a lot of sexual gratification. At least the mom/babysitter eventually does fuck your sissy ass silly; the teacher just remains a tease, despite claiming to let the situation go further if the character follows instructions.
Maybe, when the friend finally does take the MC, he will treat her like a goddess, and it will be a mutually mind blowing sex scene we have all been waiting for! He will teach her what it feels like to be a woman. He will make her his woman with heavenly erotic bliss!
Honestly, the sex scene with the coach isn't that bad, same with the mom/babysitter. I don't get the Roxy date often enough to tell. It's just, I'm tired of going to my friend looking for some sexual relief and not getting it. I don't expect mind-blowing sex, because the friend sounds like he's a virgin and hasn't been in a relationship at all.
But there is the emotional investment: Joshua has been nothing but supportive with your feminization, you've been close for years. The romantic in me just feels like he would be healthier in a relationship than a school coach preying on a confused teenager.
But yeah, part of me is wishing that the friend would seal the deal for you; where other people have been turning into a woman in body, it's the friend that turns your heart. And maybe, instead of you visiting him, he'll come to your house instead. It would certainly be a capstone in that sort of relationship, where you're dressed like a girl, Joshua comes to have dinner with you and your mom. A fun night is had by all, then you tell your mom that your best friend is staying the night in your room. And your mom looks at you knowingly and lovingly, giving her approval.
By the way, one other thing I don't understand, is why you can't seem to do a lot of activities while wearing the "decorative" glasses. None of them look too girly at all. You should be able to wear them while doing any chore. Actually, now that I think about it, I don't actually like the idea that they are purely decorative. I wish there was an option for customizing your character at the start so that he would be wearing prescription glasses. Those things can be hot.
Finally, if I had one more complaint, it's how difficult it is to match some outfits. Like, I understand that the variety is titillating, but when you're actually playing the game, it's a pain in the ass to match some underwear. There are shortcuts, but that means that you tend to keep wearing the same outfit again and again.
I wish there was a way to randomize your outfits but at the same time, ensure that the underwear at least are matching. Ditto with the nighties. I have also noticed that some of the bras deeper in (like, #18 and higher) never have their matching show up in the shops; too bad, because some of them look pretty hot.
In the first place, mc is following teacher's orders to avoid being expelled from school, to avoid punishment and to reduce the weekly payment.
Since making money is not difficult, mc could decide to do only a minimum of tasks and pay teacher instead, but then the game may slow down or stall.
On the other side doing all teacher tasks quickly escalates the situation to a point where he can no longer wear male clothes, has to wear chastity 5 days a week / permanent, etc. which are permanent cuts to his sovereignty as self-determined adult person. A consequnce of always obeying is that mc never experiences the "naughty" punishments by teacher. (random)
There are some unexpected carrots for a girl oriented mc (MF) which pop up after a while :
- Experimenting with female lingery, etc. is interesting for a boy without access / sexual relationship to girls (auto-erotic)
- (female) best friend now is into traps (+ girls)
- Dress like a girl to better understand girls and improve chance to date a girl
- MC has a crush on cheerleaders and dressing like a girl allows to join cheerleaders
- cheerFriend is into girls (and maybe into traps)
- Easy access to the club and 1st row seat in women toilet to watch / join sex of other couples (MF/FF)
MM :
- male best friend
- Mrs. Wilson's assistant
- coach
- jogger
- school bully + friends
(- sports team (-> harem?) )
(- several unnamed males for anonymous nonbinding sex (based on teacher tasks))
There are more encounters when doing school slut route, e.g. sex with unnamed teachers, students, sports team, ...
Did I forget one?
Should there be more love interests for MM?
