VN Ren'Py Abandoned Point of No Return [v0.4] [ForrowTempo]

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I mean..they're all intentional knockoffs of Girl Life.
 

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With that banner, I was kinda expecting the MC to be Jackson Pollock himself... :eazyHype:
 
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Rearden

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is there a rout for only lesbian?

also in general i see in some games genre : Transformation what does it mean?
MC to what transform?
It's more like change of character, certainly not about transformation to furry and that sort of stuff:test:

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Shower bug and map on the phone in russian.
We're aware of shower bug and trying to fix it. Map both in russian and english, isn't it? But I guess we'll leave only english in the next eupdate.

watching thread. will wait a bit before trying it. the rendering looks ok.
i do hope for something different, some twist. i like it we play female protagonist, to follow her p.o.v.
in the patron game they say: Head of the studio is Floser. My Life, Path of Dead Man, Double Agent and Kelly Wright. < not sure how to interpret it. anyway, i will wait until next update and try it myself!
The full quote from patreon looks like this "Head of the studio is Floser. You can know him for the games such as: My Life, Path of Dead Man, Double Agent and Kelly Wright.". It's just his solo projects that he did over a year ago, you can even find some of them with non-official volunteer translation, I guess, but it have nothing to do with the current game, but you'll se big difference in quality.

The English is ok, but should be better, getting a translator could be helpful.
Thanks for feedback, unfortunatly we cant afford a translator right now, and it's me who translating the game atm, as well as responsible for this topic. So if you'll see some repetative misstakes in game be sure to tell me so I could improve faster, coz I'm not a native speaker as you may guessed. Also it's a complex problem, translation process looks like this:

and sometimes I'm unaware about the context behind the text and sometimes the original text is not so artistic, coz everyone in team, including scriptwriter are technicians, lol.
So, you can't talk yet? Or am I miss something. I mean home where there are option to talk your family.
There are a few choices in dialogs and there will be more, or did i misunderstand you?
My Malewarebytes is blocking this.

PoNR.exe
MachineLearning/Anomalous.100%
As someone replied to this, it's not actualy viruses for sure, we know that lastest version of Ren'Py potentially could cause that kind of stuff, we'll dig into it.
Nice game and interface.

Rollback is something that should definitely be put back in or alternatively show the last sentences so when presented with possible answers you see what the question / conversation about was. You could argue I should simply read the conversation but even so, when presented a choice I want to re-read the conversation and rollback fits that purpose.

There is a bug when you enter brother/parents room and wait there until midnight. You cannot exit the room anymore and game is stuck.

The game starts full-screen which is annoying and reverts to full-screen near the end.

The size of the game is rather large for the material it has. Perhaps you should consider saving the graphics in another format.

Some outside graphics seem overexposed.
Rollback will be added in the next version for sure then. Yes, we know about the bug and trying to fix it, we'll be greatful for some advice maybe from someone from developers here, who had something similar problems and found a way to fix it. Size of the game is what make renders look so good, but we'll look for a way to squeeze it without quality loss.
What do you meant in the last sentence?
Lol the teacher is Mark Jefferson, from life is strange
Yeah, were kinda inspired by Life is strange and it's sort of an easter egg, but it wont affect the plot that much.
Only lesbian route?
Yes, please!
Keep it!
Not only, but it'll be up to your choices.

Gorillaz in the soundtrack? For real?
"How to get copyright legal problems -> Pratical Guide for Dummies"
Hahah. That was fun.

WAIT. Isn't the interface IDENTICAL to Glamour from Dark Silver? O_O
Yes, it was a negligence, I guess, we'll cut it out in the next update and add some generic background royalty-free music.
About interfaces, they're not quite identical, but indeed similar, funny coincidence.

menu bar in game wont appear. cant do activitys
Please, describe what caused it or it's happens when you run the game?

honestly.. i m ok with the same room ( not like they are tons of choices for a girl'ish bedroom anyway..) . but i just wonder sometime if the devs , whoever they are, who use this room... now how to use DAZ a bit more than posing stuff and voila...

i mean... the whole room can be empty, you can kick out every single items on it, put shader or color on absolutly everything and mix it with others stuff bedroom,desktop,etc..

i understand how hard it is to make a game (obviously).. but imho, i think some originality is a proof of a devoted dev to tend to make soemthing original and not "copy-pasted" feeling.

and yes, it cost money, i know... but just possessing 2 or 3 room is enougth to create multiples style, by color/shader, positioning, combined , etc..

soo yes, i m not rude to critic like this. but i think when the same stuff appear like dozens of times in different game ( wich obviously everybody play, or at least have seen some screens from ) its not THAT hard to try getting something fresh.

just my opinion...
We would like to diversify backgrounds and models too, yes, but atm we're running on our own expance so we're prectictly donate money and time in it, for example motherboard and CPU were burned out during rendering and so on. If support will grow and we'll have money for models we'll buy them, as well as some hardware to be able to render more and faster.

" Whether Katie will be a sweet girl and excellent pupil, an exemplary daughter or a lustful devil-it's up to you to decide "

just to add that i not understand very good this...
i mean.. the 3 first options seems the same to me.
soo the choice will be : " is she gonna be a good girl or a bitch ? "

sweet girl, excellent pupil or exemplary daughter seems exactly the same to me...
if somebody can explain me better what the difference will be between them.. i take it.
I ment it to look like something like this: "Whether Katie will be a sweet girl and excellent pupil, an exemplary daughter or a lustful devil-it's up to you to decide".
So it's all the same before "or".

I'm glad that our game caused such interest and also I'm grateful for all the critic and gratitude, don't be shy and keep it up. If you have any questions or suggestion be sure to let me know.
Btw how did you liked animation? It takes a lot of time to make it, does the result worth it, what do you think?
Also I want you guys to help us to improve/create the script with your suggestions. Second version won't be mainly focused on only storyline, it'll introduse few new characters and interactions with them. So basicly you have time to tell us in which direction script should move and what you want to see in the game and what you don't want to see. There will be some pulls and maybe even discord chanel in future to let patreons to decide such kind of questions, but I'll read everything that you're writing here and consider it.
I understand that game will be leaked here from patreon anyway and I don't mind it, I would eiather download it for free if I could. Maybe even I'll release it here but a bit later than it will be posted on patreon. But I ask you to consider to become a patreon, because money, of course, will motivate us and impove the quality. Btw, as you may guess we're from eastern Europe, so $1 for us is more than 1$ for you, lol.
 

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"Whether Katie will be a sweet girl and excellent pupil, an exemplary daughter or a lustful devil-it's up to you to decide."

I'm pretty positive what option the majority's going to be going with.

:)
i don’t know about the rest of you depraved monsters but my katie will be a sweet girl excellent pupil and exemplary daughter - a shining example of purity and goodness. :tf:
 

Penfold Mole

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I hope you're not going to keep forcing a font on the text on every line like you've done in your script:
Code:
{font=sp.ttf}{size=21}text{/font}{/size}
Closing tags are in the wrong order, BTW

Please consider this:
For starters, this kind of font (Segoe Print in this case) is very tiresome to read. It's fine for short messages like greeting cards and invitations, but not for reading a longer story.
And if you force it on every line in your script instead of defining the font globally, then it's also impossible to change it via a simple patch (like the one in my sig). To change it, you'd have to modify the script directly and remove all these tags (via sed in bash or manually in Notepad++ find/replace, for example).
In a multilanguage game it's especially bad, because while it's relatively easy to modify translation files, modifying the original script in original language will break the whole translation system and you'd have to generate new translation files, too. It's bad, really bad.
Of course, there's an option to replace the font file itself, but it'll still be something that has to be done manually only for your game, it can't be done via universal patches.

Ren'Py's default font is DejaVu Sans and for a very good reason - readability.
Why won't you stick with the default font? Or at least change the font by defining the global style for say_dialogue to make it easier to change for those who prefer readability to fanciness.

And good luck with your game.

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LOL @ "And here Samantha waddles".
It's not a good translation for "О, а вот и Саманта ковыляет."
Ducks and penguins waddle, no one uses this word to describe the walk of a girl, unless you want to insult her.
 

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I hope you're not going to keep forcing a font on the text on every line like you've done in your script:
Code:
{font=sp.ttf}{size=21}text{/font}{/size}
Closing tags are in the wrong order, BTW

Please consider this:
For starters, this kind of font (Segoe Print in this case) is very tiresome to read. It's fine for short messages like greeting cards and invitations, but not for reading a longer story.
And if you force it on every line in your script instead of defining the font globally, then it's also impossible to change it via a simple patch (like the one in my sig). To change it, you'd have to modify the script directly and remove all these tags (via sed in bash or manually in Notepad++ find/replace, for example).
In a multilanguage game it's especially bad, because while it's relatively easy to modify translation files, modifying the original script in original language will break the whole translation system and you'd have to generate new translation files, too. It's bad, really bad.
Of course, there's an option to replace the font file itself, but it'll still be something that has to be done manually only for your game, it can't be done via universal patches.

Ren'Py's default font is DejaVu Sans and for a very good reason - readability.
Why won't you stick with the default font? Or at least change the font by defining the global style for say_dialogue to make it easier to change for those who prefer readability to fanciness.

And good luck with your game.
That's a pretty solid point. Thanks for your non-indifference and advice. We'll ̶o̶p̶t̶i̶m̶i̶s̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ restore the damage. Also we'll consider to use your mod in some scenes if it won't break the astetic of the game/interface, if you don't mind.
 

Penfold Mole

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Also we'll consider to use your mod in some scenes if it won't break the astetic of the game/interface, if you don't mind.
Sure, why not. It's just a few lines of code, based on Ren'Py Wiki about outlines and Ren'Py's default configuration in the standard screens.rpy file.
I'm using it myself for every Ren'Py game I play, yours included. ;)
 

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Maybe i miss something, but i go to school, go to home, click in "talk" and nothing happening...
I can talk with my mother, my father and nothing...
Do my homework, draw, bath, eat... but this is it.
Map don't work. Wardrobe don't work.

I do something wrong?
 

John159

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This game don't even have 30 mins of gamegamep.
But 800 MB to download
And 1.70 GB game size
WTF
 

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Maybe i miss something, but i go to school, go to home, click in "talk" and nothing happening...
I can talk with my mother, my father and nothing...
Do my homework, draw, bath, eat... but this is it.
Map don't work. Wardrobe don't work.

I do something wrong?
Same here man
Just a garbage game
 

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There are a few choices in dialogs and there will be more, or did i misunderstand you?
I mean that why there is "talk" icon when there is nothing to talk. It's confusing. Could you do it like that icon only shows when there is something to talk?
 

Penfold Mole

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This game don't even have 30 mins of gamegamep.
But 800 MB to download
And 1.70 GB game size
WTF
It's because images are in lossless and low compression PNG format. It's easy to convert them into either lossless webp and gain less than a half of the current size or into lossy webp and gain way over a half of the size (depending on lossy compression image quality settings). I'm sure they'll do it in the future like most devs have recently done.

And about the talk - it's obviously something that will be added in the future, so far it seems to be just an empty placeholder.
What I can see is that the UI is already well made and the game structure, event and stat system behind it seems to be already in place, so there's little chance that the UI will be modified with every new version, making old saves incompatible and forcing you to start the game from scratch like many other games do.

Not too bad for a first release. I've seen much worse.
 

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Player have an opportunity to be in an ordinary innocent girl shoes, making her first steps into adulthood....Whether Katie will be a sweet girl and excellent pupil, an exemplary daughter...it's up to you to decide
Yeah! I bet loads of people will be playing an adult porn game and deciding to be a sweet girl and exemplary daughter! Lets avoid all the fun!
 

Vezzeli

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Yeah! I bet loads of people will be playing an adult porn game and deciding to be a sweet girl and exemplary daughter! Lets avoid all the fun!
Maybe not loads of people, but we are not all horny wankers who needs to fuck every character in game. For example this game, I'm happy to only do some lesbian stuff with Sam(and hopefully with mom), but I will NOT touch those male family members. So yeah, there are different kind players out there.
 

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Maybe i miss something, but i go to school, go to home, click in "talk" and nothing happening...
I can talk with my mother, my father and nothing...
Do my homework, draw, bath, eat... but this is it.
Map don't work. Wardrobe don't work.
It's because images are in lossless and low compression PNG format. It's easy to convert them into either lossless webp and gain less than a half of the current size or into lossy webp and gain way over a half of the size (depending on lossy compression image quality settings). I'm sure they'll do it in the future like most devs have recently done.

And about the talk - it's obviously something that will be added in the future, so far it seems to be just an empty placeholder.
What I can see is that the UI is already well made and the game structure, event and stat system behind it seems to be already in place, so there's little chance that the UI will be modified with every new version, making old saves incompatible and forcing you to start the game from scratch like many other games do.

Not too bad for a first release. I've seen much worse.
Indeed, "talk" button is a placeholder for now, that most likely will be featured in the next version.
About the compression, yes, we're currently digging into it to find the best balance between size and quality.
I do something wrong?
You should just skip some time by clicking here(top left corner), it'll skip next 30 minutes. I guess we'll make this button more explicit in future.
Yeah! I bet loads of people will be playing an adult porn game and deciding to be a sweet girl and exemplary daughter! Lets avoid all the fun!
Description is oversimplifiyed, we'll try to let you to decide degree of "fun", so maybe you can roleplay it a bit.
 
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