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Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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dartred

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Escuirtinator said:
What is your problem with Penny? I think she is top-notch.
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Do you mean my tier list? lol
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I put characters who have no personality or development near the bottom. It's hard to say a character is good, when they had 1 appearance and 1 sex scene. Like Rachita (might be misspelled). She is literally just a female character that appears and fucks. Has no development, but some people say she is their favorite character. If it's a "looks" tier list then sure, eye of the beholder and all that.

If it's a tier list on how much they like the "character" of the character, then Penny, Rachita, Tsukiko make sense to be at the bottom. They are barely characters in the story. There isn't much to go off of yet.

Here's my CH 10 tier list. Again, Rebecca is at the bottom in that list because she had no development yet.

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My CH 9 tier list is the same as CH 10

My CH 8 tier list has Tiff with the other 2 side characters because she had no development
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I do admit though, Aliza and Tiff need to move up to tier A in the latest tier list. They are much better characters then Eva and Mallory.
 
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Fayn Arawn

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dartred said:
If it's a tier list on how much they like the "character" of the character, then Penny, Rachita, Kumiko make sense to be at the bottom. They are barely characters in the story. There isn't much to go off of yet.
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I think you meant Tsukiko, not Kumiko?:confused:
 
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Thought I'd upload this since I saw so many lists that were completely different. These are based on how sexy the scenes were to me btw
 
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FoolishFool0 said:
Ok but, like, there is a major issue when people frame NTR on those lenses which is based on the fact that the women in NTR, and this game is a perfect example of that, don't cheat on their significant others voluntarily 9 times out of 10.

There is a matter of coercion from the NTRer's part usually involved, drugs, blackmail, kidnapping, the usual shit we can also see here, that completely removes whatever argument about those women's "sexual liberation," by the simple fact that, like... they aren't exactly willingly part of this conversation? They are victims of sexual assault, simulated one in a non real story yes (thus making it a fetish rather than actual SA), but from a Watsonian analysis of the story the female characters are victims here and judging them for it would be kinda shitty.

Of course from a Doylist analysis they are sexual objects for the viewer to consume of course, so then we can do the discussion about the way there is a weird incel undercurrent between some fans of either genres, or how much like a Slasher movie those women are being "punished" for their beauty, or the male character is being punished for his naivety.

Like, most people don't read Metamorphosis and blame the girl for what happens to her, but at the same time why would anyone play this game, where women are drugged into sexual codependence with an abuser in bad endings, and act as if they are nothing but victims here?
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Yeah, that's the kind of thing I had in mind when I mentioned "the nastier depictions". But I don't think they represent anything close to 9/10 of the games classified as NTR, especially now that the meaning of the term has been broadened to refer to any depiction of a female character having sex with a male other than the MC. But I'm with you, vis-a-vis not understanding the appeal of such games.

Though you might want to change "read Metamorphosis" to "play Metamorphosis". I thought I'd drastically misremembered the plot of the Kafka story.
 
Satou Pendragon

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naragas1 said:
How can I see ntr scenes? The ntr switch is on, but it keeps repeating when I make selections
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The NTR Scenes are Bad Ends you'll see the scene and then come back to before you made that Choice so you'll pick the other choice. If I understood your Question correctly
 
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