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Do we have rough estimate on ETA for 12? I feel like it should be somewhere around late November or early December. It would make for a merry Christmas. :p
 

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Do we have rough estimate on ETA for 12? I feel like it should be somewhere around late November or early December. It would make for a merry Christmas. :p
Yeah, rough estimate is December. I had asked the big man himself and that's what he thinks. At least before he started writing.

Speculations on how major scenes in the chapter will play out?

I don’t know why but I feel like the Boner Olympics is gonna play a big part in this chapter?
I don't know if it will play a big part of the story, but it's going to be a fun arc.

The 2 biggest "reveals / twist" of next I think will be the reveal of who is Lucia's father and Cath reveals she's pregnant. A chapter or 2 ago she let slip that she stopped getting her periods. So that latest teaser with her pointing to her stomach and then with a baby. It's going to be revealed she's pregnant this chapter, probably.

A scene that we all know is coming, but I'm not sure if it's happening this chapter or next, but a three(or more)some with the main girls. Brenna, Ophelia and Sterling seem likely. Ophelia walks in on them this upcoming chapter so depending on how it plays out, it might break out into a threesome then and there or maybe later in the chapter. Unless it's one of the last scenes to happen, then it will be the chapter after next.
 
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Found the game recently and it's quite awesome. I hate NTR, but the way it's done in this game is fine.

That said, I kinda dislike the fact that so much effort (and I assume dev time for renders and animations) go to those.

Especially since some of the poses and angles in the NTR encounters are "better" (in quotes since that's my opinion). One example would be the Amber encounter in which she loses herv-card to the MC (or to Hunter in the NTR variant).

The latest chapter had an enormous amount of effort put in the NTR ending and that just made me think "why not have the MC do all of these instead of having "throwaway" scenes like that? Within the context of the MCs relationship to the girls and circumstances and all that".

Another one that bothers me a bit is the maid girl losing her virginity. The camera angle of the riding and overall quality of the animation is higher on the NTR variant than on the canon one. It all still boils down to taste though.

I guess I'd simply like less focus on the NTR endings overall, I guess. Not necessarily because of it being ntr per sé, since the way this game handles it is perfectly fine with me, but more because quite a few of the NTR has angles, poses and animations that I would've much prefer to have canonically, done by the MC.

I literally just came into this thread and typed this without looking at anything else in the thread, but am I in the minority here?

Still, even with those misgivings, I think this game is a damm gem and I'm glad I ran into it.

Not this fucking debate again...
 

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Yeah, rough estimate is December. I had asked the big man himself and that's what he thinks. At least before he started writing.


I don't know if it will play a big part of the story, but it's going to be a fun arc.

The 2 biggest "reveals / twist" of next I think will be the reveal of who is Lucia's father and Cath reveals she's pregnant. A chapter or 2 ago she let slip that she stopped getting her periods. So that latest teaser with her pointing to her stomach and then with a baby. It's going to be revealed she's pregnant this chapter, probably.

A scene that we all know is coming, but I'm not sure if it's happening this chapter or next, but a three(or more)some with the main girls. Brenna, Ophelia and Sterling seem likely. Ophelia walks in on them this upcoming chapter so depending on how it plays out, it might break out into a threesome then and there or maybe later in the chapter. Unless it's one of the last scenes to happen, then it will be the chapter after next.
But was it Sterling or Hunter who got Cathrine pregnant tho.
 

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The 2 biggest "reveals / twist" of next I think will be the reveal of who is Lucia's father and Cath reveals she's pregnant. A chapter or 2 ago she let slip that she stopped getting her periods. So that latest teaser with her pointing to her stomach and then with a baby. It's going to be revealed she's pregnant this chapter, probably.
I don't think it'll be revealed. I mean, if you think about it, it would lessen the shock value of the bad ending. Like many things, I think this will be an "early" reveal in the bad ending, but won't be known in the main story. And, while yes, one could argue we already figured it out in the teasers, those aren't available for everyone.
 

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True. I like the bad ends where they get knocked up. So if Cath is already pregnant, she can't be impregnated in a bad end. If she's pregnant, it would also mean that in the Starling ending, Cath didn't get pregnant by Hunter, but her baby was Sterling's.

I wonder, maybe, just maybe she is saying she WANTS a baby / intended to have Sterling's baby in that one teaser she is pointing to her stomach. It could be that the baby was Hunter's. She does seem to be missing her abs. It could just be a visual thing. Daz changes so much based on angles or lighting.
 
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What do you guys think Drew''s bad end is most likely to be this chapter ? My money is on Lucia and maybe her mom and grandma but we might be surprised.
Also aren't the teasers supposed to drop soon on patreon ?
 

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I know the conversation is done, but I just remembered this meme format that fits perfectly

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Hi, yesterday, when I posted my first message, I mentioned this as well, but may not have seen it, it said, "An argument which says, why have NTR on when you're the vanilla path, it's because of scene comparison and nothing else". Also my last reply was somewhat vague and you couldn't make sense of it, maybe I wasn't articulate enough, it's mentioned in my reply to SuddenReal which is below. Also, I'm not kink-shaming, I'm just saying to match the quality of scenes of Vanilla with NTR that's all. The facepalms emojis spammed on my messages are really something.

Yes, because we stil have 10 sex scenes of considerable length versus 2 long sex scenes.
dartred Yeah, that's what I was saying yesterday, that let's say for example 10 canon sex scenes with considerable length versus 2 bad end long sex scenes. Does it do justice to the 10 considerable scenes ? I was just pointing it out that they should be equal in nature, if 10 canon scenes are in considerable length then 2 bad ends should be in considerable length and if 10 canon scenes are long sex scenes then 2 bad ends can be long sex scenes, was only talking about this balance yesterday. I'm only talking about the quality side of things here. Because I know for certain that people won't like it when it'll be reversed, for example; 10 long canon scenes vs 2 bad end scenes with considerable length.
 
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I was just pointing it out that they should be equal in nature
I get what you're saying, but from a story perspective, they can't be. There have already been "complaints" that there's too much talking and distracting witty banter during sex in the canon scenes, so you can't make them longer. And you can't make the sex scenes shorter, because that's when Hunter breaks into his "evil monologue" on how he's better than everyone else. So, either you put in more sequences in the canon scenes, making them too hectic or you put in less scenes in the bad ending, making them too repetitive and stale.
 

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What do you guys think Drew''s bad end is most likely to be this chapter ? My money is on Lucia and maybe her mom and grandma but we might be surprised.
Also aren't the teasers supposed to drop soon on patreon ?
Some time today. It could be any time though.
 

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What happenend to the dream sequence for august?
Since WWG is in the writing portion of development. He's put the Dream Sequences on pause until the next Dev Cycle (once he's done with Chapter 12 and starts working on Chapter 13).
 

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so we've gone from 10, to 8, to 18, to 16%. 16% being probably the most accurate. now if we add all the what if scenes as well as dream scenes were at what, probably 25-30%? maybe more? yeah yeah not part of the actual game and all, but they are still same universe and not any less cannon then the rest. idc that the game has the scenes but this trying to downplay them as something insignificant is wrong. maybe throw a vanilla suggestion out for voting if you want peoples perception of the game to change
 

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now if we add all the what if scenes as well as dream scenes were at what, probably 25-30%? maybe more? yeah yeah not part of the actual game and all, but they are still same universe and not any less cannon then the rest.
They're... not? I mean, the whole point of a "what if" is that it's NOT the same universe and that it's NOT cannon.

Come on, stop this discussion. It's just getting ridiculous.
 

dartred

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so we've gone from 10, to 8, to 18, to 16%. 16% being probably the most accurate. now if we add all the what if scenes as well as dream scenes were at what, probably 25-30%? maybe more? yeah yeah not part of the actual game and all, but they are still same universe and not any less cannon then the rest. idc that the game has the scenes but this trying to downplay them as something insignificant is wrong. maybe throw a vanilla suggestion out for voting if you want peoples perception of the game to change
https://f95zone.to/threads/power-vacuum-ch-11-official-what-why-games.36240/post-11464708

Stop complaining about it. Take the mods advice. If you don't like a fetish that is taking up "16%" of the game, delete it, put the thread in your ignore list and don't download any more updates. You don't even support the dev. Don't talk about "people should suggest Vanilla". That's hypocritical to ask others to do what you won't.

They do get suggested, but the people don't want it so they don't get voted on. You might not like to hear it. You might not agree with it, but since they were introduced, NTR has always been more popular in PV. Vanilla patrons weren't scared off that NTR was always winning, because they were winning from the start.

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On the very first month WWG released PV, he made a poll asking if NTR should be kept or removed. 89.7% asked to KEEP NTR. That's 10% of players at release saying to remove NTR. Vanilla has never had a strong showing in PV. Yet this game didn't turn into an NTR first game.

Next year he made a poll, that would not change anything. He just made it to see how players choose to play his game. 63% of players played with NTR on.

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