Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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MAGO-DAG

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Fayn Arawn said:
I think what they were referring to specifically was Drew and Hunter double-penetrating a woman together. Even though this Brenna scene is non-canon, I think the information revealed during it is true, meaning Nora/Drew/Hunter threesome happened in canon.

Regarding possibly drugging Keira and Nora, at this point we don't know if drugs were involved back when they were getting fucked by Drew and Hunter. I like to think Drew didn't need the drugs, but may have used them due to Hunter's influence.

I'm dying to know how Keira and Nora feel about their past; they refused to discuss it with David which implies some kind of shame, and they definitely look unsettled in the teasers as you mentioned. I imagine they had years of therapy to try to get over it, and may have repressed their sexual natures (which Sterling will have to help them with lol).
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Yeahhh! I think Sterling will be the one who will help them in terms of sexual attraction and in terms of overcoming fear, and we noticed this in the teasers))) It’s quite possible that they are still ashamed of the past, remember when Lucia called her mother, she was happy that supposedly David’s family is not against them coming, but they are afraid that one of Hunter or Drew will be there... if they had sex with consent and understanding, they would not be hiding)))
 
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Fayn Arawn said:
I like to think Drew didn't need the drugs, but may have used them due to Hunter's influence.
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You know that old story about the kid who lacked confidence and was given this "magical" item who helped him, only to be revealed it didn't do anything but it was him all along? I think it's the opposite of that. Drew clearly lacked confidence, but Hunter just said "you can do it, believe in yourself" while he had actually drugged the girls (without Drew's knowledge). Still, it helped Drew find his confidence, so all's well that ends well? Wait... that sounds like I'm condoning roofies...
 
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Many say that Drew did not know that Hunter was drugging Nora or Kira or trying to drug Sterling's family, but there is one inconsistency, what about the wine that Hunter gave to Drew? when they were arguing, Hunter said “trust me, the wine will help my plan” and then Drew gave Brenna wine and the attraction began, something is not pure here... if in your opinion Drew was against it, he wouldn’t have done it right? we should get all the answers to Drew in the new update, there really is something fishy there
 
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MAGO-DAG said:
Many say that Drew did not know that Hunter was drugging Nora or Kira or trying to drug Sterling's family
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I think you're missunderstanding. Drew KNOWS Hunter is drugging the family, but Nora and Kiera are something different since this took place long before PV. While I've always considered Drew a wolf in sheep's clothing and a manipulative bitch (hell, even now a lot of people still think she can be one of the good guys), back then Drew was a lot more innocent (even though he was a horny teenager). So, it might be possible she didn't fully understand the backhanded methods Hunter used (at the time). Perhaps that's why she was reluctant when Lucia mentioned she wanted to contact her mom, since now she realises what actually went down, as opposed to what she believed happened at the time.
 
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dartred said:
It's only a week delay, as i acknowledged, he is running late on the update, but it's only a week. It shouldn't be hard to overlook 1 week. It's not like development time is getting longer without nothing to show for it. CH 12 is going to be twice as big as CH 11 and only 1 extra month of development time. If CH 13 is twice as big again and only 10 months to develop, it's statiscally a win. Every chapters increased development time to content ratio has been a win. Sure, i get it's not a win for you personally because you don't like the jokes and think it's a waste of time, i get that. Content is content though, he isn't just sitting around doing nothing though.
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You acknowledge it because it is a fact, not because you're understanding of the complaints. It's indisputable that the estimated deadline was missed. No one is debating that the size isn't larger than last chapter, sure it can be, but people are complaining about the deadline estimate. Telling people what shouldn't be hard to overlook or that it's "only" a week is just forcing your perception on others. If you claim to get that it's not personally a win for someone, then don't feel the need to rebut their annoyance.

I do agree that the delay isn't that wild, but people can be annoyed about it.
 
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SuddenReal said:
I think you're missunderstanding. Drew KNOWS Hunter is drugging the family, but Nora and Kiera are something different since this took place long before PV. While I've always considered Drew a wolf in sheep's clothing and a manipulative bitch (hell, even now a lot of people still think she can be one of the good guys), back then Drew was a lot more innocent (even though he was a horny teenager). So, it might be possible she didn't fully understand the backhanded methods Hunter used (at the time). Perhaps that's why she was reluctant when Lucia mentioned she wanted to contact her mom, since now she realises what actually went down, as opposed to what she believed happened at the time.
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This. I think people love Drew because he isn't ugly like Hunter and has a thick veneer of civility and charm. If Drew didn't have the model of a hot futa people wouldn't put up with half of his bullshit. (I.e. If Erik came back instead to sniff around the girls, people would be foaming at the bits to see him dismembered or worse. Not praying for a redemption arc like with Drew.)

Drew understands what Hunter is doing and even when confronting him, "condemns him" but ultimately does nothing to stop him. Drew knows the type of monster Hunter is and still lets him do his thing. Yes, Hunter made Drew into a master manipulator with a warped sense of right and wrong. But at what point of the explicit and systematic violation of your closest family and friends do you draw the line between "just following orders" and being directly involved?

At this point Drew isn't a misguided lamb, he continually uses manipulative tactics to get what he wants and is complacent in the drugging and raping of all his family members. He was a lamb who was offered power in exchange for comprising morality and took it. Maybe Hunter didn't tell him about the drugs with Nora and Kiera at first. But he obviously found out at some point that Hunter uses those tactics and still doesn't care. He's a wolf.

So yeah, though I imagine WWG will try to make it more grey than that, can we stop pretending he's not just a charismatic villian?
 
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DeathIsImminent said:
This. I think people love Drew because he isn't ugly like Hunter and has a thick veneer of civility and charm. If Drew didn't have the model of a hot futa people wouldn't put up with half of his bullshit.
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Completely agree. Hell, rather than a redemption arc, I think I might fall out of my chair laughing if Sterling "avenges his parents" by doing to Drew what he did to David--granted, Ophelia probably wouldn't be impressed, but something about it almost feels like a tongue-twister: "I'm going to fuck the asshole of the dick who cucked my mom!" And if Sterling actually manages to mindbreak Drew by trying to put him in a wheelchair with his cock, all the better. I just don't think it'll happen, or really even want it to, because we'd never actually trust him afterwards. Maybe for a What-If?
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Drew understands what Hunter is doing and even when confronting him, "condemns him" but ultimately does nothing to stop him. Drew knows the type of monster Hunter is and still lets him do his thing. Yes, Hunter made Drew into a master manipulator with a warped sense of right and wrong. But at what point of the explicit and systematic violation of your closest family and friends do you draw the line between "just following orders" and being directly involved?
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Drew freaked out because he thought it was all completely unnecessary--his morality is half-assed because he, like Hunter, prioritizes the ends over the means. If they can't get what they want without resorting to underhanded methods, then those methods are no longer underhanded. Once he saw Sterling in action Drew went from outraged and incredulous to merely uneasy...hence the temptation. Even the possibility of failure was enough for him to discard his "morality" and use the wine.
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At this point Drew isn't a misguided lamb, he continually uses manipulative tactics to get what he wants and is complacent in the drugging and raping of all his family members.
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Oh, I didn't need to explain that. Whoops.
DeathIsImminent said:
So yeah, though I imagine WWG will try to make it more grey than that, can we stop pretending he's not just a charismatic villain?
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People want to believe, man. Especially in porn, and at least doubly--if not exponentially--in h-games.
They want to fuck whoever's hot, or see whatever configuration of characters, actions, and contexts scratch their itch. Does it need to make sense? To a certain extent, yes, but they'll hand-wave whatever they need to in order to get off and complain about it later.
 
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Orpheus22 said:
Who is the author of this picture/art? Does he have other pictures/arts?
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MAGO-DAG said:
I'm the author))) I edit photos of different games :)
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Here are some more edited art featuring Ophelia in HDR quality, if you like it further, I can share it in the future. but it all depends on you PV fans, not everyone likes when art is shared, so I didn’t share, I’m glad you liked it)))
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MAGO-DAG said:
Here are some more edited art featuring Ophelia in HDR quality, if you like it further, I can share it in the future. but it all depends on you PV fans, not everyone likes when art is shared, so I didn’t share, I’m glad you liked it)))
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Great images with Ophelia, but remember there is a separate thread for fan art.
https://f95zone.to/threads/power-vacuum-fan-art-and-assets.54586/
Try to keep this one for main game's discussions.
 
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Can someone help me out with installing the mandatory patch on android and giving a up to date save cause I legit forgot how to install shit
 
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