uscmiller22

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Well here in my part of the world it's already January 8th, so that means that the game was not release when promise, yet again
It won’t be released in his time zone either, maybe not anywhere in time. I really don’t understand this dude. He either has zero grasp on how long things are going to take him or he procrastinates like crazy until the literal last minute. There’s no other explanation at this point.
 

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It won’t be released in his time zone either, maybe not anywhere in time. I really don’t understand this dude. He either has zero grasp on how long things are going to take him or he procrastinates like crazy until the literal last minute. There’s no other explanation at this point.
It's better that he work on the game and make the honest mistake of being off by a week then him procrastinate. He's been working hard on his game the entire time, keeping us updated.

come to think of it, for making the prediction back in october, he was only 1 week off and people blew their tops over it lol.
 

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Well here in my part of the world it's already January 8th, so that means that the game was not release when promise, yet again
Well, what about me? I changed the clock on my computer so that's it next week, so for me he's already a week late.
 

uscmiller22

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It's better that he work on the game and make the honest mistake of being off by a week then him procrastinate. He's been working hard on his game the entire time, keeping us updated.

come to think of it, for making the prediction back in october, he was only 1 week off and people blew their tops over it lol.
You assume he’s been working on it hard the entire time, none of us know. There’s zero chance he delayed it a week and took him the entire week down to the last minutes (not even done testing); without him either procrastinating or wildly overestimating his working speed. He either doesn’t evaluate himself very well or he procrastinated thinking he’d turn it around quickly today.

No one should question his game making, it’s obviously top tier. But I really am starting to question his work ethic. It’s getting hard to see this as bad estimating, he’s too damn smart to miss his mark so often like this.
 

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Man it will be so funny (no) when the update comes out and a lot of illiterate people don't read that it's a BETA and start saying that it's bugged or that they can't play the previous chapters :LOL:
This happens with almost every new beta. It's guaranteed at this point that this will happen and flood the thread with a dozen or so new pages because people didn't catch the beta part.
 

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You assume he’s been working on it hard the entire time, none of us know. There’s zero chance he delayed it a week and took him the entire week down to the last minutes (not even done testing); without him either procrastinating or wildly overestimating his working speed. He either doesn’t evaluate himself very well or he procrastinated thinking he’d turn it around quickly today.

No one should question his game making, it’s obviously top tier. But I really am starting to question his work ethic. It’s getting hard to see this as bad estimating, he’s too damn smart to miss his mark so often like this.
You assume he's been procrastinating the entire time, none of us know. See how that works both ways? The game is huge, people think a game this size and quality is suppose to have a turn around time of what? 5 months or less?
 

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You assume he’s been working on it hard the entire time, none of us know. There’s zero chance he delayed it a week and took him the entire week down to the last minutes (not even done testing); without him either procrastinating or wildly overestimating his working speed. He either doesn’t evaluate himself very well or he procrastinated thinking he’d turn it around quickly today.

No one should question his game making, it’s obviously top tier. But I really am starting to question his work ethic. It’s getting hard to see this as bad estimating, he’s too damn smart to miss his mark so often like this.
You're right, none of us know. Him working hard on this or slacking off is a coin toss. And again, PV is a top tier game. If his work ethic gets him to deliver this level of a release, then I don't see the point in rushing his system. Better a slightly delayed release than a game with bugs just when you're about to nut.
 

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It won’t be released in his time zone either, maybe not anywhere in time. I really don’t understand this dude. He either has zero grasp on how long things are going to take him or he procrastinates like crazy until the literal last minute. There’s no other explanation at this point.
Yeah, I think it’s strange, as well. Each passing day makes the supposed December release seem more ridiculous. If there was no benefit to stringing the Stans along either, it’d be more whatever for me. But entering your final chapter, starting 13’s development even a day later is a day added to the total PV dev time and thus more cash flow. But some may be active in the discord and he’ll reply to your message or animate your visions. Over the years, they think that’s a friend and that they’re getting their back by excusing the lack of transparency, not someone they give money to monthly to make them porn.

But in this thread, accurately estimating when you’ll complete a chapter

> that you’ve completed 11 of thus far
> that you’re giving late notices for on proposed dates of beta release

is more difficult than ANYone could imagine.
 
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You assume he's been procrastinating the entire time, none of us know. See how that works both ways? The game is huge, people think a game this size and quality is suppose to have a turn around time of what? 5 months or less?
You always go to the extremes and twist words to defend your hero. No one is asking for him to get done in 5 months or less. Never have I said a thing about the overall time it takes to develop the game. It’s him giving timelines that are constantly wrong. The guys a walking thesaurus. It’s highly doubtful he missed one deadline, then immediately gave himself another deadline that was borderline and he might miss. He’s not that dumb.
 

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You're right, none of us know. Him working hard on this or slacking off is a coin toss. And again, PV is a top tier game. If his work ethic gets him to deliver this level of a release, then I don't see the point in rushing his system. Better a slightly delayed release than a game with bugs just when you're about to nut.
I mean I think it’s getting more obvious which side of the coin it is, but that’s just me. No one has rushed him, people are just tired of him missing dates every single update. Don’t even give a fucking date if you can’t ever hit it and take your time lol. At some point when you miss every update; it’s either dishonesty, poor work ethic, or poor estimating. This is the same guy who used to argue with everyone on here about dates to the point he said he wouldn’t do it anymore, then kept doing it and kept missing lol. Would just be nice to see that improve so he doesn’t scare people off his next game when they aren’t as invested.
 
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You always go to the extremes and twist words to defend your hero. No one is asking for him to get done in 5 months or less. Never have I said a thing about the overall time it takes to develop the game. It’s him giving timelines that are constantly wrong. The guys a walking thesaurus. It’s highly doubtful he missed one deadline, then immediately gave himself another deadline that was borderline and he might miss. He’s not that dumb.
The problem with what you’re saying is that you’re implying it’s a deadline. It’s not, it’s an estimate. He already even refunded the people who subbed for December just for the release and promised to get the beta to them. He never set a hard deadline, just gave an estimate. While I do agree that WWG is not good at evaluating the speed at which he works or how much time things will take, he’s open about it, and fully transparent too.
 
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