TGafy

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Man it will be so funny (no) when the update comes out and a lot of illiterate people don't read that it's a BETA and start saying that it's bugged or that they can't play the previous chapters :LOL:
This happens with almost every new beta. It's guaranteed at this point that this will happen and flood the thread with a dozen or so new pages because people didn't catch the beta part.
 

dartred

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You assume he’s been working on it hard the entire time, none of us know. There’s zero chance he delayed it a week and took him the entire week down to the last minutes (not even done testing); without him either procrastinating or wildly overestimating his working speed. He either doesn’t evaluate himself very well or he procrastinated thinking he’d turn it around quickly today.

No one should question his game making, it’s obviously top tier. But I really am starting to question his work ethic. It’s getting hard to see this as bad estimating, he’s too damn smart to miss his mark so often like this.
You assume he's been procrastinating the entire time, none of us know. See how that works both ways? The game is huge, people think a game this size and quality is suppose to have a turn around time of what? 5 months or less?
 

TGafy

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You assume he’s been working on it hard the entire time, none of us know. There’s zero chance he delayed it a week and took him the entire week down to the last minutes (not even done testing); without him either procrastinating or wildly overestimating his working speed. He either doesn’t evaluate himself very well or he procrastinated thinking he’d turn it around quickly today.

No one should question his game making, it’s obviously top tier. But I really am starting to question his work ethic. It’s getting hard to see this as bad estimating, he’s too damn smart to miss his mark so often like this.
You're right, none of us know. Him working hard on this or slacking off is a coin toss. And again, PV is a top tier game. If his work ethic gets him to deliver this level of a release, then I don't see the point in rushing his system. Better a slightly delayed release than a game with bugs just when you're about to nut.
 

DIO-DA

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It won’t be released in his time zone either, maybe not anywhere in time. I really don’t understand this dude. He either has zero grasp on how long things are going to take him or he procrastinates like crazy until the literal last minute. There’s no other explanation at this point.
Yeah, I think it’s strange, as well. Each passing day makes the supposed December release seem more ridiculous. If there was no benefit to stringing the Stans along either, it’d be more whatever for me. But entering your final chapter, starting 13’s development even a day later is a day added to the total PV dev time and thus more cash flow. But some may be active in the discord and he’ll reply to your message or animate your visions. Over the years, they think that’s a friend and that they’re getting their back by excusing the lack of transparency, not someone they give money to monthly to make them porn.

But in this thread, accurately estimating when you’ll complete a chapter

> that you’ve completed 11 of thus far
> that you’re giving late notices for on proposed dates of beta release

is more difficult than ANYone could imagine.
 
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uscmiller22

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You assume he's been procrastinating the entire time, none of us know. See how that works both ways? The game is huge, people think a game this size and quality is suppose to have a turn around time of what? 5 months or less?
You always go to the extremes and twist words to defend your hero. No one is asking for him to get done in 5 months or less. Never have I said a thing about the overall time it takes to develop the game. It’s him giving timelines that are constantly wrong. The guys a walking thesaurus. It’s highly doubtful he missed one deadline, then immediately gave himself another deadline that was borderline and he might miss. He’s not that dumb.
 

uscmiller22

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You're right, none of us know. Him working hard on this or slacking off is a coin toss. And again, PV is a top tier game. If his work ethic gets him to deliver this level of a release, then I don't see the point in rushing his system. Better a slightly delayed release than a game with bugs just when you're about to nut.
I mean I think it’s getting more obvious which side of the coin it is, but that’s just me. No one has rushed him, people are just tired of him missing dates every single update. Don’t even give a fucking date if you can’t ever hit it and take your time lol. At some point when you miss every update; it’s either dishonesty, poor work ethic, or poor estimating. This is the same guy who used to argue with everyone on here about dates to the point he said he wouldn’t do it anymore, then kept doing it and kept missing lol. Would just be nice to see that improve so he doesn’t scare people off his next game when they aren’t as invested.
 
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You always go to the extremes and twist words to defend your hero. No one is asking for him to get done in 5 months or less. Never have I said a thing about the overall time it takes to develop the game. It’s him giving timelines that are constantly wrong. The guys a walking thesaurus. It’s highly doubtful he missed one deadline, then immediately gave himself another deadline that was borderline and he might miss. He’s not that dumb.
The problem with what you’re saying is that you’re implying it’s a deadline. It’s not, it’s an estimate. He already even refunded the people who subbed for December just for the release and promised to get the beta to them. He never set a hard deadline, just gave an estimate. While I do agree that WWG is not good at evaluating the speed at which he works or how much time things will take, he’s open about it, and fully transparent too.
 

Feru452ax

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It's fun to see people get so worked up for a porn game yeah I'm excited too for the release but it'll come when it'll come
Considering you're wasting your time posting, we can easily say you are getting worked up for a porn game.

Got love people who talk without thinking.
 

panzermaster

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At the risk of being unpopular, I think the best thing to do for anyone who is still pressing F5 on it's keyboard hoping to obtain chapter 12 by staying awake, just remember that even if he does release the beta in 30 minutes. A "hero" still has to leak it, which can take hours and sometime an entire day before it happens (if not more so in some cases). THEN you have to download it, which can take quite some time depending on your internet speed, then you have to apply the patch to FINALLY start the game...

I would recommand anyone to just go to sleep, who knows you might have a good surprise tommorow.
 

ThorinKing

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At the risk of being unpopular, I think for any who is still pressing F5 on it's keyboard hoping to obtain chapter 12 and staying awake, just remember that even if he does release the beta in 30 minutes. A "hero" still has to leak it, which can take hours and sometime an entire day before it happens (if not more so in some cases). THEN you have to download it, which can take quite some time depending on your internet speed, then you have to apply the patch to FINALLY start the game...

I would recommand anyone to just go to sleep, who knows you might have a good surprise tommorow.
You're trying to reason with unreasonable individuals - those that need to hear what you're saying lack the capacity for self-reflection or logic.
 

Night Hacker

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So I finally reached Chapter 11 and I am playing through it looking for this "Sterling" character everyone keeps mentioning when it dawns on me... that's the default name of the MC! LMAO... WHY would you refer to him by his default name?! Sheesh... :ROFLMAO:

Had some sexy moments in chapter 11... I also slammed my space bar rapidly during them and missed A LOT OF DIALOG! Man alive, who in the hell talks that much, and about casual shit while fucking?! Oh better, he's about to have sex, he's naked with a beautiful woman and he's acting like a damn woman... "I don't know, are you sure about this? It feels wrong!" LMFAO... seriously?! If it feels wrong, keep your fucking clothes on and don't enter the room with her. Heheheh.... oh man, I skipped so much dialog this chapter, I was getting annoyed at the lame conversations and just starting tapping rapidly on the space bar! (and I like a good story but)... anyhow...

It does have it's good points... the Dev has a good sense of humour, but he (SHE?!) doesn't know how men think... when a woman is nekkid and wants to have sex, our body automatically switches from thinking with the big head, to thinking with the little head, at least if you're ALREADY NEKKID AND IN THE ROOM WITH HER!!! ;) (and especially if gas is being pumped into the rooms, and your food is being drugged to make you horny)

Sorry... had to vent... :LOL:
 

uscmiller22

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The problem with what you’re saying is that you’re implying it’s a deadline. It’s not, it’s an estimate. He already even refunded the people who subbed for December just for the release and promised to get the beta to them. He never set a hard deadline, just gave an estimate. While I do agree that WWG is not good at evaluating the speed at which he works or how much time things will take, he’s open about it, and fully transparent too.
This argument doesn’t make sense to me. He is his own boss, yes he’ll never have a strict deadline making independent games. But him publicly announcing a date to all of his fans/customers should be handled the same as a strict deadline. Him making that public and setting that expectation, is him setting himself a deadline. He even re emphasized the December release in November, if you are giving an “estimate” on a 10 month project the month before it’s a deadline.

As far as the “customer service” side of things, returning money, honoring patrons. That is something he has always been good for, which some devs won’t.
 

Beardedsmith

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game is just being tested. If anyone has ANY experience with renpy, you'll know this is a bitch to get through. especially with his files so big.

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It's just so important that when you make new excuses there aren't people who can call it out for being ridiculous actively watching the thread.

Why is he working on anything that could kick back errors like this on the day he told his most loyal soldier it was being released?
 

Thojnaan

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It's just so important that when you make new excuses there aren't people who can call it out for being ridiculous actively watching the thread.

Why is he working on anything that could kick back errors like this on the day he told his most loyal soldier it was being released?
Now I could be wrong, but I think WWG posted that on the PV discord for all to see.

And the second question is silly considering how it's supposed to be a beta release, meaning it's supposed to be used for testing out bugs and such. That's without mentioning how some final releases of games, be it porn or conventional ones, get pushed out the door with bugs as well. It's a part of coding.
 

dartred

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It's just so important that when you make new excuses there aren't people who can call it out for being ridiculous actively watching the thread.

Why is he working on anything that could kick back errors like this on the day he told his most loyal soldier it was being released?
Because today is when he is finishing up working on it? He didn't finish yesterday and he didn't finish a few days ago. He worked on it all the way up until now and he is now building it in renpy. He isn't just sitting on the finished build and only testing it now. Once he finishes his test, he will begin uploading the build aka the Beta for his patreons to play and you guys to pirate.
 
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