Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Fayn Arawn]

Do you think it's possible now that the girls know about Hunter's business they will take over? I mean if they will continue having sex for the viewers and keeping that money

Of course not. First of all, they were very freaked out about it, and second of all, they'd need to disconnect all camera's and replace them. After all, that account they're broadcasting on is tied to Hunter's (unknown) bank account. They wouldn't get any money from it at all.

I doubt they'll continue to have sex for Hunter's patrons on the dark web, but I'm hoping Ophelia and Sterling at least do a video on Brenna's (or their own) OnlyFans, as was suggested during their threesome with Brenna, and get a massive payday from it. At this point they've crossed so many lines they might as well go with it, and at least it'll be their own decision from now on.

Don't forget the rest of Hunter's business, i.e. literally pimping out the women in the households he took over. From Hunter's explanation it sounds like those women are willing to prostitute themselves for the substantial income, with Hunter presumably collecting a percentage of their earnings. I feel like Sterling and the rest would be uncomfortable taking that business over, and most likely would release those women from their obligations.

 

[GeppettoPossum]

I doubt they'll continue to have sex for Hunter's patrons on the dark web, but I'm hoping Ophelia and Sterling at least do a video on Brenna's (or their own) OnlyFans, as was suggested during their threesome with Brenna, and get a massive payday from it. At this point they've crossed so many lines they might as well go with it, and at least it'll be their own decision from now on.

Don't forget the rest of Hunter's business, i.e. literally pimping out the women in the households he took over. From Hunter's explanation it sounds like those women are willing to prostitute themselves for the substantial income, with Hunter presumably collecting a percentage of their earnings. I feel like Sterling and the rest would be uncomfortable taking that business over, and most likely would release those women from their obligations.

I had forgotten about the pimping out part. This is why it might be difficult for there to be a Drew redemption arc.

Did she know about that or the camera/livestreaming business? I know she didn't know about the tranq darts, but she knew about the rest of the drugging. She's been complicit in his schemes for over 15 years and we're supposed to believe this is the first time he's used drugs on people? Obviously CANON-wise they are not successful thanks to Sterling, but that doesn't mean they haven't been in the past with other families.

That also would mean Drew knows and was willing/actively planning to pimp out her own family for money. It might not be possible for the family to get over this betrayal in the short time we have left in the game, unless perhaps we have some kind of time jump.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I had forgotten about the pimping out part. This is why it might be difficult for there to be a Drew redemption arc.

Did she know about that or the camera/livestreaming business? I know she didn't know about the tranq darts, but she knew about the rest of the drugging. She's been complicit in his schemes for over 15 years and we're supposed to believe this is the first time he's used drugs on people? Obviously CANON-wise they are not successful thanks to Sterling, but that doesn't mean they haven't been in the past with other families.

That also would mean Drew knows and was willing/actively planning to pimp out her own family for money. It might not be possible for the family to get over this betrayal in the short time we have left in the game, unless perhaps we have some kind of time jump.

Drew knew about the pimping, as Hunter would send her to check up on conquered households to make sure things were going smoothly. However, I'm pretty sure neither Hunter nor Drew were planning to pimp out Ophelia and her family. Fuck them, yes, but not pimp them out.

I think the cameras/streaming was a new scheme limited to Ophelia's house, and Drew didn't know about it. She reacted angrily after Hunter's confession, calling it a "pornographic Real World" and threatening to stomp his face in.

Drew recognized "the mixture" in the wine bottle, so I think it's likely that Hunter has used drugs in the past, but perhaps only "when needed", like when faced with more resistance/obstacles than usual.

It seems to me that Drew only knew part of what Hunter was doing to their own family, and only begrudgingly went along with Hunter until she learned the whole truth. I think there's a strong case for Drew's redemption, but it hinges mainly on the details of the alleged affair with David.

 

[Creativemind]

I just started chapter 12. Does letting the dog and Rebecca together change the story a bit or no changes?

 

[OWSam000]

I just started chapter 12. Does letting the dog and Rebecca together change the story a bit or no changes?

No change in story but give you the choice lead to one of the bad end related to the dog.
Just be curious. If dog ending is bad end, why dog scene with Rebecca isn't? Cause maybe she is just a side girl.

 

[SuddenReal]

If dog ending is bad end, why dog scene with Rebecca isn't? Cause maybe she is just a side girl.

I think it's because it's a set up for this ending. If you didn't take the doggo path with Rebecca, you can't get the doggo ending with Brenna.

 

[GeppettoPossum]

Drew knew about the pimping, as Hunter would send her to check up on conquered households to make sure things were going smoothly. However, I'm pretty sure neither Hunter nor Drew were planning to pimp out Ophelia and her family. Fuck them, yes, but not pimp them out.

I think the cameras/streaming was a new scheme limited to Ophelia's house, and Drew didn't know about it. She reacted angrily after Hunter's confession, calling it a "pornographic Real World" and threatening to stomp his face in.

Drew recognized "the mixture" in the wine bottle, so I think it's likely that Hunter has used drugs in the past, but perhaps only "when needed", like when faced with more resistance/obstacles than usual.

It seems to me that Drew only knew part of what Hunter was doing to their own family, and only begrudgingly went along with Hunter until she learned the whole truth. I think there's a strong case for Drew's redemption, but it hinges mainly on the details of the alleged affair with David.

Yeah I guess we'll need more details of Drew's involvement before we can make a solid judgment. If she was groomed by her father from a young age to act this way, then she might get a pass. I'm curious as to how Ophelia and Aliza wouldn't have known about this Dio Del Sesso stuff seeing as they're all around the same age and would've been living together. I know Hunter said he waited till Ophelia was 18 but it was too late (since David and her were already together). Or did Hunter not start "training" Drew until Nora/Keira moved in? I guess Ophelia and Aliza would've been out of the house by that point.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Yeah I guess we'll need more details of Drew's involvement before we can make a solid judgment. If she was groomed by her father from a young age to act this way, then she might get a pass. I'm curious as to how Ophelia and Aliza wouldn't have known about this Dio Del Sesso stuff seeing as they're all around the same age and would've been living together. I know Hunter said he waited till Ophelia was 18 but it was too late (since David and her were already together). Or did Hunter not start "training" Drew until Nora/Keira moved in? I guess Ophelia and Aliza would've been out of the house by that point.

If Ophelia and Aliza hadn't moved out, Hunter might never have told Drew about the DDS legacy, as Hunter had doubts about Drew's sexual orientation. But around the time that Ophelia (15) and Aliza (14) moved out, and Keira and Nora moved in, Hunter noticed Drew's (13) interest in Keira and started his training.

Side note: Hunter specifically noticed Drew messing around with Keira's laundry, and interpreted that as sexual interest, but I think it was also an early clue regarding Drew's gender identity.

 

[TrueJackal]

What are your top 5 pairings you're hoping for Ch13 ?

1) Sterling Fucks Drew and Petyon in optional scene
2) Ophelia Dominates Catherine
3) Sterling fucks Tiff in a romantic way like she was hoping for
4) Kiera and Lucia
5) Literally every woman in Sterling's family all together in a massive orgy with new Annabelle

Also make everyone ride the sybian

 

[GeppettoPossum]

If Ophelia and Aliza hadn't moved out, Hunter might never have told Drew about the DDS legacy, as Hunter had doubts about Drew's sexual orientation. But around the time that Ophelia (15) and Aliza (14) moved out, and Keira and Nora moved in, Hunter noticed Drew's (13) interest in Keira and started his training.

Side note: Hunter specifically noticed Drew messing around with Keira's laundry, and interpreted that as sexual interest, but I think it was also an early clue regarding Drew's gender identity.

I was looking through the image files of the game. Having not seen almost any of the NTR scenes, I was surprised to find out that Drew no longer has testicles. They even mention it in the script during the Brenna/Drew scene.

Brenna: "You don't have...balls! Did you have them removed!?"
Drew: "I did...I hope you're not a fan of big pendulous balls..."

Spoiler: Drew's Dick

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[jamiehmcw91]

I was looking through the image files of the game. Having not seen almost any of the NTR scenes, I was surprised to find out that Drew no longer has testicles. They even mention it in the script during the Brenna/Drew scene.

Brenna: "You don't have...balls! Did you have them removed!?"
Drew: "I did...I hope you're not a fan of big pendulous balls..."

Spoiler: Drew's Dick

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wish she had the balls would have been a better story if she knocked up the girls

 

[GeppettoPossum]

wish she had the balls would have been a better story if she knocked up the girls

Well to be fair she did knock up one of them: Keira. I'm glad that's no longer going to be an issue though.

 

[jamiehmcw91]

Well to be fair she did knock up one of them: Keira. I'm glad that's no longer going to be an issue though.

Wish she knocked more up tho

 

[jileni123]

please i need a save file i m tired of repeating this game

 

[Snugglepuff]

please i need a save file i m tired of repeating this game

Unless you're reformatting your C: drive after every time you've played it, then you should always have saves regardless of deleting them with the game's main folder.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I was looking through the image files of the game. Having not seen almost any of the NTR scenes, I was surprised to find out that Drew no longer has testicles. They even mention it in the script during the Brenna/Drew scene.

Brenna: "You don't have...balls! Did you have them removed!?"
Drew: "I did...I hope you're not a fan of big pendulous balls..."

Spoiler: Drew's Dick

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There's interesting information in some of the NTR sequences. That pic is from the sauna scene with Tiff, where Drew explains she had her testicles removed so she would no longer produce testosterone, helping her appear more feminine, but she injects some testosterone in order to maintain sexual function (i.e. achieve erections).

Well to be fair she did knock up one of them: Keira. I'm glad that's no longer going to be an issue though.

I get the impression that Drew has actual feelings for Keira, and is starting to feel a "paternal bond" toward Lucia, at least during the NTR endings in chapter 12. After all, Drew is now incapable of conceiving a child. I suppose it's possible Drew may have fathered other children (when she still could), but Lucia is special because Drew cared about Keira. For these reasons, in addition to Drew's fucked up childhood (as previously discussed), I find Drew to be a sympathetic character. Finding out how her story ends is one of the things I'm most looking forward to.

 

[Creativemind]

I think it's because it's a set up for this ending. If you didn't take the doggo path with Rebecca, you can't get the doggo ending with Brenna.

So in chapter 12 brenna and dog is considered as bad ending? So it takes back to the choice?

 

[SuddenReal]

So it takes back to the choice?

Yep, it's a bad ending.

 

[ultrusviderat]

anyone else having Brenna's face pop up after every line of dialogue?

 

[GeppettoPossum]

There's interesting information in some of the NTR sequences. That pic is from the sauna scene with Tiff, where Drew explains she had her testicles removed so she would no longer produce testosterone, helping her appear more feminine, but she injects some testosterone in order to maintain sexual function (i.e. achieve erections).


I get the impression that Drew has actual feelings for Keira, and is starting to feel a "paternal bond" toward Lucia, at least during the NTR endings in chapter 12. After all, Drew is now incapable of conceiving a child. I suppose it's possible Drew may have fathered other children (when she still could), but Lucia is special because Drew cared about Keira. For these reasons, in addition to Drew's fucked up childhood (as previously discussed), I find Drew to be a sympathetic character. Finding out how her story ends is one of the things I'm most looking forward to.

Found something else interesting that might give us a hint about Annabelle and I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention it. It's in the REALLY bad ending of chapter 12 when Hunter kills Drew, Lucia and Sterling.

Spoiler: Hunter Dialog

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I know stuff in the bad endings isn't canon, but I wonder if this hints that Hunter is quite familiar with New Annabelle (and she works as a cleaner/fixer for him or something?) It also suggests that New Annabelle knows about Hunter's plans with the family and didn't expect them to work out. It also implies there's another woman yet to be introduced that is saved for kind of a grand finale.

I guess it's also possible the person he's talking to isn't New Annabelle and is perhaps someone who is keeping an eye on her at the convent- meaning New Annabelle would be the woman being saved for when he's "done changing minds."

EDIT: In retrospect, I'm guessing my second option is more likely, especially considering Annabelle's line in the canon ending:
"Crud...I just got dropped off by a guy I don't know!"
But that also means that in the canon ending, Hunter called this person and told them to bring Annabelle to the house. I guess he thought he had won after showing the girls all that "evidence." Yeah it's all making sense now.

What I'm wondering though is what he meant by needing her once minds are changed. Maybe he'll say she's the final part of his grand vision of bringing the family back together or something. Obviously she doesn't know what the hell's going on, so I'd imagine she'd need some mind changing as well.