Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

4.10 star(s) 386 Votes
Discussion Reviews (386)
Fayn Arawn

Fayn Arawn

Well-Known Member
May 24, 2019
1,073
2,127
solongdentalplan said:
Found something else interesting that might give us a hint about Annabelle and I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention it. It's in the REALLY bad ending of chapter 12 when Hunter kills Drew, Lucia and Sterling.

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

I know stuff in the bad endings isn't canon, but I wonder if this hints that Hunter is quite familiar with New Annabelle (and she works as a cleaner/fixer for him or something?) It also suggests that New Annabelle knows about Hunter's plans with the family and didn't expect them to work out. It also implies there's another woman yet to be introduced that is saved for kind of a grand finale.

I guess it's also possible the person he's talking to isn't New Annabelle and is perhaps someone who is keeping an eye on her at the convent- meaning New Annabelle would be the woman being saved for when he's "done changing minds."

EDIT: In retrospect, I'm guessing my second option is more likely, especially considering Annabelle's line in the canon ending:
"Crud...I just got dropped off by a guy I don't know!"
But that also means that in the canon ending, Hunter called this person and told them to bring Annabelle to the house. I guess he thought he had won after showing the girls all that "evidence." Yeah it's all making sense now.

What I'm wondering though is what he meant by needing her once minds are changed. Maybe he'll say she's the final part of his grand vision of bringing the family back together or something. Obviously she doesn't know what the hell's going on, so I'd imagine she'd need some mind changing as well.
Click to expand...
I agree with your second idea. New Annabelle is important to Hunter, enough for him to be a "great benefactor" to her, so he certainly would've been keeping tabs on her. Since she's living in a convent, I suspect Hunter is providing money to the nuns, and monitoring Annabelle through them. Hunter has probably visited Annabelle at the convent, because she states that she knows him, and she would've been unlikely to leave to go see someone she doesn't know. When it was time to reveal Annabelle to the family, he sent a male associate to pick her up (presumably with the nuns' approval).

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Hunter seems to have a network contacts, for everything from supplying illicit chemicals, to providing discreet medical attention, to disposing of dead bodies. Maybe it's a bit stereotypical, but considering his past in Sicily I wouldn't be surprised if he has mafia connections.

As for Hunter's grand plan? Right now I don't have the foggiest idea.:confused:
 
  • Like
Reactions: GeppettoPossum
GeppettoPossum

GeppettoPossum

Active Member
Game Developer
Oct 29, 2019
623
1,943
Fayn Arawn said:
I agree with your second idea. New Annabelle is important to Hunter, enough for him to be a "great benefactor" to her, so he certainly would've been keeping tabs on her. Since she's living in a convent, I suspect Hunter is providing money to the nuns, and monitoring Annabelle through them. Hunter has probably visited Annabelle at the convent, because she states that she knows him, and she would've been unlikely to leave to go see someone she doesn't know. When it was time to reveal Annabelle to the family, he sent a male associate to pick her up (presumably with the nuns' approval).

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Hunter seems to have a network contacts, for everything from supplying illicit chemicals, to providing discreet medical attention, to disposing of dead bodies. Maybe it's a bit stereotypical, but considering his past in Sicily I wouldn't be surprised if he has mafia connections.

As for Hunter's grand plan? Right now I don't have the foggiest idea.:confused:
Click to expand...
It is a curious thing, Hunter having any involvement whatsoever with a convent. I can imagine that being raised in a convent means Annabelle will be quite chaste. Perhaps Hunter's plan was to have the family as a whole corrupt her? That would certainly align with his ideals. Reminds me of that old "rule of the internet": The more beautiful and pure something is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it.

That being said, I'm not sure we have quite enough time left in the game though to go down a whole corruption route with her. I suppose there's also the possibility that she's just acting the part and is in cahoots with Hunter somehow. Only time will tell.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Fayn Arawn
J

Jack10t

Newbie
Mar 4, 2019
25
47
Def missing something.. far as I can tell did all and nothing ever progresses after trying everything.. Even tried downloading the game again and, nope, nothing!

1707613212787.png

What am I missing??
 
J

Jack10t

Newbie
Mar 4, 2019
25
47
Jack10t said:
Def missing something.. far as I can tell did all and nothing ever progresses after trying everything.. Even tried downloading the game again and, nope, nothing!

View attachment 3344446

What am I missing??
Click to expand...
OK, I think I figured it out. If you finish Kimoko's event early, then do Tiff's family thing with "spoiler", then the next day after Tiff's scene the next part of the scene in the kitchen won't happen... odd that!
 
D

dDikb_dDikb

New Member
Mar 15, 2022
10
4
David(MC's Dad) cheat on Ophelia with Drew while David went on business trip...... is scam in my suspicion.
Drew point of view, while Drew is doing whatever makes pleasure him. tap on David Schedule and sync timing send E-mail.
this is all Drew had to do. Drew had unknown but evil plan about David. and no longer need it. unless use it to frame David somehow some purpose.

yes, David had own pervy experience and unholy side too. so David got paranoid and very cruel to MC.
i don't know cause of death about David. if Hunter or Drew causing it.
it means maybe David cheat on Ophelia with Drew and got poison by Hunter or Drew. just like famous "Putin" do.
i don't know. i strongly suspect David got framed.

EDIT -
i don't remember term of "Title" Hunter used. it means kind of Sex King + Harem King + Man of House i think.
the "Title" means different between Hunter and Drew. so Drew feels backstabing by Hunter when Drew finds out about Drugs and Tranqui Dart.
not because Drew care about MC.
 
Last edited:
  • Thinking Face
Reactions: Fayn Arawn
GeppettoPossum

GeppettoPossum

Active Member
Game Developer
Oct 29, 2019
623
1,943
dDikb_dDikb said:
David(MC's Dad) cheat on Ophelia with Drew while David went on business trip...... is scam in my suspicion.
Drew point of view, while Drew is doing whatever makes pleasure him. tap on David Schedule and sync timing send E-mail.
this is all Drew had to do. Drew had unknown but evil plan about David. and no longer need it. unless use it to frame David somehow some purpose.

yes, David had own pervy experience and unholy side too. so David got paranoid and very cruel to MC.
i don't know cause of death about David. if Hunter or Drew causing it.
it means maybe David cheat on Ophelia with Drew and got poison by Hunter or Drew. just like famous "Putin" do.
i don't know. i strongly suspect David got framed.

EDIT -
i don't remember term of "Title" Hunter used. it means kind of Sex King + Harem King + Man of House i think.
the "Title" means different between Hunter and Drew. so Drew feels backstabing by Hunter when Drew finds out about Drugs and Tranqui Dart.
not because Drew care about MC.
Click to expand...
I really hope that doesn't turn out to be the case, as that would make Drew such an awful person. :cry:
I could see that potentially being a bad end, but I highly doubt WWG would make it canon that Drew or Hunter killed David. In fact, to my knowledge even in the bad endings Drew hasn't "hurt" anyone. Hunter is the one that always does the killing in those ends.
 
Fayn Arawn

Fayn Arawn

Well-Known Member
May 24, 2019
1,073
2,127
dDikb_dDikb said:
David(MC's Dad) cheat on Ophelia with Drew while David went on business trip...... is scam in my suspicion.
Drew point of view, while Drew is doing whatever makes pleasure him. tap on David Schedule and sync timing send E-mail.
this is all Drew had to do. Drew had unknown but evil plan about David. and no longer need it. unless use it to frame David somehow some purpose.

yes, David had own pervy experience and unholy side too. so David got paranoid and very cruel to MC.
i don't know cause of death about David. if Hunter or Drew causing it.
it means maybe David cheat on Ophelia with Drew and got poison by Hunter or Drew. just like famous "Putin" do.
i don't know. i strongly suspect David got framed.

EDIT -
i don't remember term of "Title" Hunter used. it means kind of Sex King + Harem King + Man of House i think.
the "Title" means different between Hunter and Drew. so Drew feels backstabing by Hunter when Drew finds out about Drugs and Tranqui Dart.
not because Drew care about MC.
Click to expand...
solongdentalplan said:
I really hope that doesn't turn out to be the case, as that would make Drew such an awful person. :cry:
I could see that potentially being a bad end, but I highly doubt WWG would make it canon that Drew or Hunter killed David. In fact, to my knowledge even in the bad endings Drew hasn't "hurt" anyone. Hunter is the one that always does the killing in those ends.
Click to expand...
I think there are several possible explanations for the David/Drew situation:

1) The simplest explanation is that the affair is exactly what it appears to be. For years Drew was sending sexual emails to David and he was responding eagerly. Then they would meet up during David's "business trips" and have sex.

2) It could be that we're somehow misinterpreting the emails. Perhaps David had a legitimate reason to meet up with Drew? I don't think we know what David's job was, maybe he was somehow involved with Drew's & Hunter's operation? Maybe the emails were some kind of bizarre inside jokes between Drew and David? Maybe Drew was acting as a therapist for David, and the "inside of me" comment was a joke about Drew being inside David's mind? Maybe Drew's topless photo was just to show David the progress of Drew's transition to a woman? Maybe David was interested in transitioning too?

3) The emails could be altered or fabricated to frame/defame David. Remember who gave Sterling the emails: Kevin, who has been untrustworthy and may have been clever enough to pull off the deception. If that were the case, I wonder why Kevin would bother doing that? I don't see how it would benefit him. If he had tried to blackmail David, surely David could disprove fake emails? Or if the emails were created after David's (supposed) death, what for? I doubt revealing them to Ophelia would've sent her into Kevin's arms. The only other thing I can think of seems too convoluted: that Kevin was somehow conspiring with Hunter and/or Drew, and faked those emails in order to manipulate Ophelia for their purposes.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GeppettoPossum and Snugglepuff
GeppettoPossum

GeppettoPossum

Active Member
Game Developer
Oct 29, 2019
623
1,943
Fayn Arawn said:
I think there are several possible explanations for the David/Drew situation:

1) The simplest explanation is that the affair is exactly what it appears to be. For years Drew was sending sexual emails to David and he was responding eagerly. Then they would meet up during David's "business trips" and have sex.

2) It could be that we're somehow misinterpreting the emails. Perhaps David had a legitimate reason to meet up with Drew? I don't think we know what David's job was, maybe he was somehow involved with Drew's & Hunter's operation? Maybe the emails were some kind of bizarre inside jokes between Drew and David? Maybe Drew was acting as a therapist for David, and the "inside of me" comment was a joke about Drew being inside David's mind? Maybe Drew's topless photo was just to show David the progress of Drew's transition to a woman? Maybe David was interested in transitioning too?

3) The emails could be altered or fabricated to frame/defame David. Remember who gave Sterling the emails: Kevin, who has been untrustworthy and may have been clever enough to pull off the deception. If that were the case, I wonder why Kevin would bother doing that? I don't see how it would benefit him. If he had tried to blackmail David, surely David could disprove fake emails? Or if the emails were created after David's (supposed) death, what for? I doubt revealing them to Ophelia would've sent her into Kevin's arms. The only other thing I can think of seems too convoluted: that Kevin was somehow conspiring with Hunter and/or Drew, and faked those emails in order to manipulate Ophelia for their purposes.
Click to expand...
Yeah I suspect the David situation will just end up being that he was closeted and married Ophelia as a cover, or perhaps to get closer to Drew. I guess you could make the argument that having sex with his mother since age 13 might've fucked him up a bit too, but that probably won't have anything to do with whatever the answer ends up being.
 
Fayn Arawn

Fayn Arawn

Well-Known Member
May 24, 2019
1,073
2,127
john984 said:
What choice did end up winning the poll? Or what were the options?
Click to expand...
There's only 2 hours left so it's probably safe to call the winners.

Looks like my suggestions got 1st place in one poll but last place in the other.:D:cry:

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
 
  • Like
Reactions: john984
Fayn Arawn

Fayn Arawn

Well-Known Member
May 24, 2019
1,073
2,127
solongdentalplan said:
Yeah I suspect the David situation will just end up being that he was closeted and married Ophelia as a cover, or perhaps to get closer to Drew. I guess you could make the argument that having sex with his mother since age 13 might've fucked him up a bit too, but that probably won't have anything to do with whatever the answer ends up being.
Click to expand...
Now that you mention it... I seem to recall Ophelia making a comment that David preferred having anal sex with her. Take it with a grain of salt, but that could be another potential clue.:unsure:
 
  • Thinking Face
Reactions: GeppettoPossum and MAGO-DAG
A

AVNTester2

Active Member
Nov 13, 2023
859
1,722
Fayn Arawn said:
There's only 2 hours left so it's probably safe to call the winners.

Looks like my suggestions got 1st place in one poll but last place in the other.:D:cry:

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Click to expand...
Now that sounds like a good Idea for the Wallpaper suggestion(y)
 
john984

john984

Active Member
Jun 6, 2020
737
1,534
Fayn Arawn said:
There's only 2 hours left so it's probably safe to call the winners.

Looks like my suggestions got 1st place in one poll but last place in the other.:D:cry:

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Click to expand...
Thanks! Nice Ophelia won.
I think the only scene Kevin should get is with Brenna, she hates him a lot and now that he helped her, she's keeping low guard. If the plot is good then the scene could turn out pretty hot
 
  • Like
Reactions: Deleted member 2911672
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
4.10 star(s) 386 Votes