Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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Fayn Arawn said:
Drew knew about the pimping, as Hunter would send her to check up on conquered households to make sure things were going smoothly. However, I'm pretty sure neither Hunter nor Drew were planning to pimp out Ophelia and her family. Fuck them, yes, but not pimp them out.

I think the cameras/streaming was a new scheme limited to Ophelia's house, and Drew didn't know about it. She reacted angrily after Hunter's confession, calling it a "pornographic Real World" and threatening to stomp his face in.

Drew recognized "the mixture" in the wine bottle, so I think it's likely that Hunter has used drugs in the past, but perhaps only "when needed", like when faced with more resistance/obstacles than usual.

It seems to me that Drew only knew part of what Hunter was doing to their own family, and only begrudgingly went along with Hunter until she learned the whole truth. I think there's a strong case for Drew's redemption, but it hinges mainly on the details of the alleged affair with David.
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Yeah I guess we'll need more details of Drew's involvement before we can make a solid judgment. If she was groomed by her father from a young age to act this way, then she might get a pass. I'm curious as to how Ophelia and Aliza wouldn't have known about this Dio Del Sesso stuff seeing as they're all around the same age and would've been living together. I know Hunter said he waited till Ophelia was 18 but it was too late (since David and her were already together). Or did Hunter not start "training" Drew until Nora/Keira moved in? I guess Ophelia and Aliza would've been out of the house by that point.
 
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Yeah I guess we'll need more details of Drew's involvement before we can make a solid judgment. If she was groomed by her father from a young age to act this way, then she might get a pass. I'm curious as to how Ophelia and Aliza wouldn't have known about this Dio Del Sesso stuff seeing as they're all around the same age and would've been living together. I know Hunter said he waited till Ophelia was 18 but it was too late (since David and her were already together). Or did Hunter not start "training" Drew until Nora/Keira moved in? I guess Ophelia and Aliza would've been out of the house by that point.
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If Ophelia and Aliza hadn't moved out, Hunter might never have told Drew about the DDS legacy, as Hunter had doubts about Drew's sexual orientation. But around the time that Ophelia (15) and Aliza (14) moved out, and Keira and Nora moved in, Hunter noticed Drew's (13) interest in Keira and started his training.

Side note: Hunter specifically noticed Drew messing around with Keira's laundry, and interpreted that as sexual interest, but I think it was also an early clue regarding Drew's gender identity.
 
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john984 said:
What are your top 5 pairings you're hoping for Ch13 ?
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1) Sterling Fucks Drew and Petyon in optional scene
2) Ophelia Dominates Catherine
3) Sterling fucks Tiff in a romantic way like she was hoping for
4) Kiera and Lucia
5) Literally every woman in Sterling's family all together in a massive orgy with new Annabelle

Also make everyone ride the sybian
 
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If Ophelia and Aliza hadn't moved out, Hunter might never have told Drew about the DDS legacy, as Hunter had doubts about Drew's sexual orientation. But around the time that Ophelia (15) and Aliza (14) moved out, and Keira and Nora moved in, Hunter noticed Drew's (13) interest in Keira and started his training.

Side note: Hunter specifically noticed Drew messing around with Keira's laundry, and interpreted that as sexual interest, but I think it was also an early clue regarding Drew's gender identity.
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I was looking through the image files of the game. Having not seen almost any of the NTR scenes, I was surprised to find out that Drew no longer has testicles. They even mention it in the script during the Brenna/Drew scene.

Brenna: "You don't have...balls! Did you have them removed!?"
Drew: "I did...I hope you're not a fan of big pendulous balls..."
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I was looking through the image files of the game. Having not seen almost any of the NTR scenes, I was surprised to find out that Drew no longer has testicles. They even mention it in the script during the Brenna/Drew scene.

Brenna: "You don't have...balls! Did you have them removed!?"
Drew: "I did...I hope you're not a fan of big pendulous balls..."
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wish she had the balls would have been a better story if she knocked up the girls
 
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solongdentalplan said:
I was looking through the image files of the game. Having not seen almost any of the NTR scenes, I was surprised to find out that Drew no longer has testicles. They even mention it in the script during the Brenna/Drew scene.

Brenna: "You don't have...balls! Did you have them removed!?"
Drew: "I did...I hope you're not a fan of big pendulous balls..."
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There's interesting information in some of the NTR sequences. That pic is from the sauna scene with Tiff, where Drew explains she had her testicles removed so she would no longer produce testosterone, helping her appear more feminine, but she injects some testosterone in order to maintain sexual function (i.e. achieve erections).

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Well to be fair she did knock up one of them: Keira. I'm glad that's no longer going to be an issue though.
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I get the impression that Drew has actual feelings for Keira, and is starting to feel a "paternal bond" toward Lucia, at least during the NTR endings in chapter 12. After all, Drew is now incapable of conceiving a child. I suppose it's possible Drew may have fathered other children (when she still could), but Lucia is special because Drew cared about Keira. For these reasons, in addition to Drew's fucked up childhood (as previously discussed), I find Drew to be a sympathetic character. Finding out how her story ends is one of the things I'm most looking forward to.
 
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There's interesting information in some of the NTR sequences. That pic is from the sauna scene with Tiff, where Drew explains she had her testicles removed so she would no longer produce testosterone, helping her appear more feminine, but she injects some testosterone in order to maintain sexual function (i.e. achieve erections).


I get the impression that Drew has actual feelings for Keira, and is starting to feel a "paternal bond" toward Lucia, at least during the NTR endings in chapter 12. After all, Drew is now incapable of conceiving a child. I suppose it's possible Drew may have fathered other children (when she still could), but Lucia is special because Drew cared about Keira. For these reasons, in addition to Drew's fucked up childhood (as previously discussed), I find Drew to be a sympathetic character. Finding out how her story ends is one of the things I'm most looking forward to.
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Found something else interesting that might give us a hint about Annabelle and I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention it. It's in the REALLY bad ending of chapter 12 when Hunter kills Drew, Lucia and Sterling.

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I know stuff in the bad endings isn't canon, but I wonder if this hints that Hunter is quite familiar with New Annabelle (and she works as a cleaner/fixer for him or something?) It also suggests that New Annabelle knows about Hunter's plans with the family and didn't expect them to work out. It also implies there's another woman yet to be introduced that is saved for kind of a grand finale.

I guess it's also possible the person he's talking to isn't New Annabelle and is perhaps someone who is keeping an eye on her at the convent- meaning New Annabelle would be the woman being saved for when he's "done changing minds."

EDIT: In retrospect, I'm guessing my second option is more likely, especially considering Annabelle's line in the canon ending:
"Crud...I just got dropped off by a guy I don't know!"
But that also means that in the canon ending, Hunter called this person and told them to bring Annabelle to the house. I guess he thought he had won after showing the girls all that "evidence." Yeah it's all making sense now.

What I'm wondering though is what he meant by needing her once minds are changed. Maybe he'll say she's the final part of his grand vision of bringing the family back together or something. Obviously she doesn't know what the hell's going on, so I'd imagine she'd need some mind changing as well.
 
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solongdentalplan said:
Found something else interesting that might give us a hint about Annabelle and I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention it. It's in the REALLY bad ending of chapter 12 when Hunter kills Drew, Lucia and Sterling.

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I know stuff in the bad endings isn't canon, but I wonder if this hints that Hunter is quite familiar with New Annabelle (and she works as a cleaner/fixer for him or something?) It also suggests that New Annabelle knows about Hunter's plans with the family and didn't expect them to work out. It also implies there's another woman yet to be introduced that is saved for kind of a grand finale.

I guess it's also possible the person he's talking to isn't New Annabelle and is perhaps someone who is keeping an eye on her at the convent- meaning New Annabelle would be the woman being saved for when he's "done changing minds."

EDIT: In retrospect, I'm guessing my second option is more likely, especially considering Annabelle's line in the canon ending:
"Crud...I just got dropped off by a guy I don't know!"
But that also means that in the canon ending, Hunter called this person and told them to bring Annabelle to the house. I guess he thought he had won after showing the girls all that "evidence." Yeah it's all making sense now.

What I'm wondering though is what he meant by needing her once minds are changed. Maybe he'll say she's the final part of his grand vision of bringing the family back together or something. Obviously she doesn't know what the hell's going on, so I'd imagine she'd need some mind changing as well.
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I agree with your second idea. New Annabelle is important to Hunter, enough for him to be a "great benefactor" to her, so he certainly would've been keeping tabs on her. Since she's living in a convent, I suspect Hunter is providing money to the nuns, and monitoring Annabelle through them. Hunter has probably visited Annabelle at the convent, because she states that she knows him, and she would've been unlikely to leave to go see someone she doesn't know. When it was time to reveal Annabelle to the family, he sent a male associate to pick her up (presumably with the nuns' approval).

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Hunter seems to have a network contacts, for everything from supplying illicit chemicals, to providing discreet medical attention, to disposing of dead bodies. Maybe it's a bit stereotypical, but considering his past in Sicily I wouldn't be surprised if he has mafia connections.

As for Hunter's grand plan? Right now I don't have the foggiest idea.:confused:
 
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I agree with your second idea. New Annabelle is important to Hunter, enough for him to be a "great benefactor" to her, so he certainly would've been keeping tabs on her. Since she's living in a convent, I suspect Hunter is providing money to the nuns, and monitoring Annabelle through them. Hunter has probably visited Annabelle at the convent, because she states that she knows him, and she would've been unlikely to leave to go see someone she doesn't know. When it was time to reveal Annabelle to the family, he sent a male associate to pick her up (presumably with the nuns' approval).

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Hunter seems to have a network contacts, for everything from supplying illicit chemicals, to providing discreet medical attention, to disposing of dead bodies. Maybe it's a bit stereotypical, but considering his past in Sicily I wouldn't be surprised if he has mafia connections.

As for Hunter's grand plan? Right now I don't have the foggiest idea.:confused:
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It is a curious thing, Hunter having any involvement whatsoever with a convent. I can imagine that being raised in a convent means Annabelle will be quite chaste. Perhaps Hunter's plan was to have the family as a whole corrupt her? That would certainly align with his ideals. Reminds me of that old "rule of the internet": The more beautiful and pure something is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it.

That being said, I'm not sure we have quite enough time left in the game though to go down a whole corruption route with her. I suppose there's also the possibility that she's just acting the part and is in cahoots with Hunter somehow. Only time will tell.
 
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Def missing something.. far as I can tell did all and nothing ever progresses after trying everything.. Even tried downloading the game again and, nope, nothing!

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What am I missing??
 
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