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That does sound like quite a nightmarish scenario! I can't help but wonder how Hunter could accomplish it, although leaving that part a deliberate mystery might be more terrifying. I just can't imagine the women behaving that way merely as a result of psychological manipulation by Hunter. For him to not only dominate all the women so quickly, but to also have them be so deceptive and cruel towards Sterling, would make me think Hunter had mind control powers bordering on supernatural.:eek:
Specific reason might be difficult to explain why the girl would turn this way BUT the point of being an ULTIMATE corruption it's that it needs to make it a "stronger" NTR than the last time.

The way I see it is if Hunter is able to convince them that Sterling was the guy trying to corrupt them from the very start and is the reason of all of their suffering. If the girls think that Sterling use their feelings to turn them into his personal sex doll THAT is a reason for them to turn against him and THAT is how Hunter could manipulate them into torturing Sterling willingly.


But regardless of how Hunter would suceed in that, The thing is that with chapter 12 (as much as I LOVED the vanilla part of that update) is that the Hunter NTR part are starting to be a bit repetitive (still good but nothing new). The recent Hunter scene was practically the same thing as in chapter 11 (Sterling is stuck in a robots instead of a girl's body but the point is the same, he is forced to help hunter impregnate his family against his will). There needs to be something more that make it a bit different than the last version.

each chapter made something more than the last and it was a perfect evolution.


At first it was just hunter getting more "touching" with the girls in chapter 1, then it escalated with Ophelia getting a "massage", then they gave him blowjob, then he manage to fuck them and made them addicted to pleasure, then he manage to impregnate them while Sterling was in a coma.

Then Sterling was eaten by a bear while Hunter took over Ophelia and Aliza. AND THEN, Sterling was genderbend against his will, had a chip in his brain to make him docile, where he was forced to watch his family member become living sex doll for hunter and be fucked himself by hunter for the rest of his life.

This is why my suggestion mentionned below as nightmarish as it may be is an evolution, because there is something more to the corruption. It's no longer just the body, it's the very soul of the girls he corrupted.
 
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Well, I don’t know, dude... of course your ideas sound like an option for corruption and humiliation, and the way women went against their own loved ones looks too much... then this may push some things into the canon. Don't get me wrong, the question is why would they show off in front of Sterling's Watch Us Enjoy or humiliate him, right? it looks like they've gone too far to hunger for dicks.

the only option is to steal them, or for some reason force them to betray Sterling, supposedly in their hearts they are doing this for the safety of Mc supposedly leave him and let him go, Hunter will, through his man, blackmail the entire Sterling family if they do not obey, then he promises that he will kill Mc or disgrace the whole family, then slowly, out of fear, all the women obey Hunter and he will fuck them one by one every day, while Sterling suffers somewhere... it’s time to create an NTR with fear, and not just those that girls immediately jump on dick in one go.
The problem with blackmail is that as horrifying as it maybe, it is less nightmarish because the girl would still love Sterling. If they are forced to humiliate Sterling against their will, then Sterling knows that his family don't hate him. So it doesn't really change and even scales down the nightmare from previous chapter.

The way I see it is if Hunter is able to convince them that Sterling was the guy trying to corrupt them from the very start and is the reason of all of their suffering. If the girls think that Sterling use their feelings to turn them into his personal sex doll THAT is a reason for them to turn against him and THAT is how Hunter could manipulate them into torturing Sterling willingly.
 

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Why did my quote come out Russian or w/e that is XD?
Lol, I just noticed now. as Satou said, yes, I will translate it into Russian, but I didn’t know that your comment was there and how it turned out to be translated into Russian... :HideThePain:
 
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I think all bad ends that happened starring Hunter post chapter 9, Sterling died in them... what's darker than killing ? :p
he will die in the next one as well
 

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I think all bad ends that happened starring Hunter post chapter 9, Sterling died in them... what's darker than killing ? :p
he will die in the next one as well
Look a few comments back, you will see my idea of a darker version of the ultimate NTR ending... :devilish:
 

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I think all bad ends that happened starring Hunter post chapter 9, Sterling died in them... what's darker than killing ? :p
he will die in the next one as well
I don't know, sometimes death is the easy way out.

Here's my attempt at dark: what if Hunter got the girls addicted to hard drugs? And one of them overdoses and dies, and Sterling gets framed as responsible for her death and goes to prison. Later Sterling is able to appeal his conviction, but the girls at this point are so corrupted by Hunter that they testify against Sterling and he remains in prison. Hunter and the remaining girls go visit him, and Hunter bribes some corrupt guards to arrange for a private meeting, where Hunter and the guards gang bang the remaining girls while Sterling is tied up and forced to watch. And they continue to visit him to have gang bangs with Hunter and the guards until finally Sterling attempts suicide, but he's unsuccessful and ends up severely paralyzed, and the gang bang visits continue. :cry:
 

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I don't know, sometimes death is the easy way out.

Here's my attempt at dark: what if Hunter got the girls addicted to hard drugs? And one of them overdoses and dies, and Sterling gets framed as responsible for her death and goes to prison. Later Sterling is able to appeal his conviction, but the girls at this point are so corrupted by Hunter that they testify against Sterling and he remains in prison. Hunter and the remaining girls go visit him, and Hunter bribes some corrupt guards to arrange for a private meeting, where Hunter and the guards gang bang the remaining girls while Sterling is tied up and forced to watch. And they continue to visit him to have gang bangs with Hunter and the guards until finally Sterling attempts suicide, but he's unsuccessful and ends up severely paralyzed, and the gang bang visits continue. :cry:
that is very dark, no way I'm gonna watch that, but I accept that everyone has their kinks... it just would be easier for Hunter to pin everything on Drew, then Lucia would feel bad for him and Lucia and Keira, would help him to frame Sterling, because Sterling is autistic and is trusting towards Lucia after chapter 12 ending, so Lucia would need to spend more time Drew because she just knows now that Drew's her father. I know patreon's policy on rape but there is but there is a policy on drug manufacturing not drug use. so there's a grey area ...
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Just hope that Vanilla storyline isn't lost here, because recently all are bad end discussions in the thread :p
hoping for more solo scenes, as the last update it seemed rushed, that's all
 

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that is very dark, no way I'm gonna watch that, but I accept that everyone has their kinks... it just would be easier for Hunter to pin everything on Drew, then Lucia would feel bad for him and Lucia and Keira, would help him to frame Sterling, because Sterling is autistic and is trusting towards Lucia after chapter 12 ending, so Lucia would need to spend more time Drew because she just knows now that Drew's her father. I know patreon's policy on rape but there is but there is a policy on drug manufacturing not drug use. so there's a grey area ...
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Just hope that Vanilla storyline isn't lost here, because recently all are bad end discussions in the thread :p
hoping for more solo scenes, as the last update it seemed rushed, that's all
Hey man, YOU asked "what's darker than killing"? I was just giving a hypothetical scenario for the sake of discussion, no need to quote rules to me. :p

EDIT: Also, I think there's a HUGE difference between "promoting drug manufacturing techniques or distribution" and "telling a fictional story depicting drug use". :WeSmart:
 

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Well I guess that confirms New Annabelle is NOT OG Annabelle, seeing as there's no way she could look the same 40 years later. That also puts OG Annabelle's birthdate in the early 1960s, meaning she would've been around 40 when she died, and around 60 if she were still alive.
Also, it could just be the lighting/old photo, but her hair color looks different.

EDIT: I guess it doesn't totally CONFIRM it, unless we get into some weird sci-fi fuckery like holding people in stasis + memory wipes, or perhaps time travel or cloning. I kind of hope it doesn't go in that direction though.
 
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Well I guess that confirms New Annabelle is NOT OG Annabelle, seeing as there's no way she could look the same 40 years later. That also puts OG Annabelle's birthdate in the early 1960s, meaning she would've been around 40 when she died, and around 60 if she were still alive.
Also, it could just be the lighting/old photo, but her hair color looks different.

EDIT: I guess it doesn't totally CONFIRM it, unless we get into some weird sci-fi fuckery like holding people in stasis + memory wipes, or perhaps time travel or cloning. I kind of hope it doesn't go in that direction though.
Your math is pretty much in line with my own estimates (quoted below).

I think the photo is meant to appear aged or overexposed... I never owned a Polaroid camera myself but I've seen pictures like that.

I'm still convinced it's a cloning situation, new Annabelle just looks too similar to the original. You could chalk it up to the game's art style/aesthetic, but Ophelia's reaction makes me think the resemblance is too uncanny.

We now know that Hunter hired Annabelle in 1979 and married her soon after, so it's reasonable to assume she was at least 18. That means she was born around 1961 at the latest. Annabelle apparently died in 2002, so she would've been at least 41. I think new Annabelle looks much younger than 41, so if it's somehow the same person, then her physical age has regressed somehow.
 
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Your math is pretty much in line with my own estimates (quoted below).

I think the photo is meant to appear aged or overexposed... I never owned a Polaroid camera myself but I've seen pictures like that.

I'm still convinced it's a cloning situation, new Annabelle just looks too similar to the original. You could chalk it up to the game's art style/aesthetic, but Ophelia's reaction makes me think the resemblance is too uncanny.
I suppose you're right. Cloning is probably the most likely (sci-fi) situation, although there is still a possibility that New Annabelle is the daughter of OG Annabelle. It wouldn't be the first time that mother and daughter look nearly identical. (It doesn't help that most of the women's faces in this game seem to be slightly modified versions of the same base Daz figure, except for maybe Catherine). We know that Hunter knows and has been making sure she was taken care of, so the likelihood of her being a bastard child of Annabelle and some other man is probably unlikely. Her being brought in "once minds were changed" indicates to me that she is someone he is proud of. Although I feel like it would've been hard to hide the pregnancy of a ~40 year old Annabelle who was probably also sick at the time. Hmm...
 
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Well I guess that confirms New Annabelle is NOT OG Annabelle, seeing as there's no way she could look the same 40 years later. That also puts OG Annabelle's birthdate in the early 1960s, meaning she would've been around 40 when she died, and around 60 if she were still alive.
Also, it could just be the lighting/old photo, but her hair color looks different.

EDIT: I guess it doesn't totally CONFIRM it, unless we get into some weird sci-fi fuckery like holding people in stasis + memory wipes, or perhaps time travel or cloning. I kind of hope it doesn't go in that direction though.
While I am also less interested in over the top sci-fi, the game already has some level of science fiction with Sterling in a robots in chapter 12, a control chip in chapter 11, or even Ophelia situation in what if chapter 8.
 
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While I am also less interested in over the top sci-fi, the game already has some level of science fiction with Sterling in a robots in chapter 12, a control chip in chapter 11, or even Ophelia situation in what if chapter 8.
Yes, but those examples were not a part of the main story, right? The fun "what could have been" kind of scenes. Has the dev used sci-fi elements canonically so far?
 

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Yes, but those examples were not a part of the main story, right? The fun "what could have been" kind of scenes. Has the dev used sci-fi elements canonically so far?
Correct, those were not canon.
I mean you could argue the effects of HGH might not be as realistic as what's depicted. Going back and looking at what Sterling looked like in episode 1 is mind-blowing. Scrawny little twig. Not to mention whatever mind-altering drugs Hunter is using. Not sure if something quite like that exists in the real world. Sure there are "aphrodisiacs," but I'm not sure they work to the extent they do in the game. Somewhat realistic, but amped wayyyy up.
 
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