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So... I was caught up to chapter 11 but lost my laptop to a power outage and some files got corrupted. As you can imagine my save included. I love this game but playing through all 11 chapters is a little too much for me. Can I get the save from anyone please?
 

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So... I was caught up to chapter 11 but lost my laptop to a power outage and some files got corrupted. As you can imagine my save included. I love this game but playing through all 11 chapters is a little too much for me. Can I get the save from anyone please?
If you want a Start of CH 12 save, here you go. If you want complete save just for the gallery, you can get it from the link to my FAQ in my sig. Just make sure you apply the patch in the front page to your game or it won't work properly like loading saves.
 

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Interesting idea, but regarding how old the young Annabelle and Drew are looking, that would be also very improbable. I cannot remember any mentioning of their ages, but I guess Drew would have to have been about 8 years old, when he had impregnated his mother then. I guess, David would be a bit more plausible, because he was surely older than Drew.
But we will see what the dev has in mind...
Drew is likely only a couple years younger than Ophelia (who was born in 1983), so Drew may have been born in 1985. If so, then Drew would've been about 17 in 2002 (when Annabelle died), and is 34 in 2019 (when the game takes place).
Yeah unfortunately it's entirely possible (if Annabelle had the same tendencies as Hunter and Nora). Both of them had apparently been having relations with Drew and Keira since they were around 13, so it would've been happening while Annabelle was still alive it seems. Unless I've got some wires crossed.
 

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Yeah unfortunately it's entirely possible (if Annabelle had the same tendencies as Hunter and Nora). Both of them had apparently been having relations with Drew and Keira since they were around 13, so it would've been happening while Annabelle was still alive it seems. Unless I've got some wires crossed.
You do. Nora and Hunter didn't know each other, so Drew and Keira weren't involved with each other since they only met after David got into a relation with Ophelia, at which point, I believe, Annabella had already passed away.
 

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You do. Nora and Hunter didn't know each other, so Drew and Keira weren't involved with each other since they only met after David got into a relation with Ophelia, at which point, I believe, Annabella had already passed away.
Resident lore expert Fayn Arawn would disagree:

We know Ophelia was born in 1983 (making her 36 when PV takes place in 2019). We know Ophelia and Aliza practiced kissing when they were 13 & 12 (respectively), so Aliza is around 35. I therefore assume Drew is the youngest of their family and probably 34. (I suppose it's possible Drew was born 2nd but that's a very narrow window.)

So then let's say Drew is 34, that means she was born around 1985. Drew started fucking Keira and Nora in 1998 at around age 13. This would echo with Hunter also being taught about the Dio Del Sesso legacy at age 13 by his father.

Keira and Nora then moved in with Hunter, Annabelle, & Drew in 1999 when Drew was around 14, and Drew/Keira/Nora were having sex until Hunter joined in 2002 (when Drew was around 17)
So there's about a three year period where they were all living together before Annabelle died. That is of course if the guesses we're making are accurate and that WWG has put this much thought into the timeline of things.

I still can't for the life of me understand why Nora and Keira would've shacked up with Hunter. We know he was already heavily scarred/disfigured by that point. I wonder if he was using chemical means back then too?
 

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You do. Nora and Hunter didn't know each other, so Drew and Keira weren't involved with each other since they only met after David got into a relation with Ophelia, at which point, I believe, Annabella had already passed away.
It is true that Nora/Keira (David's family) didn't meet Hunter/Drew (Ophelia's family) until after David/Ophelia hooked up, but Annabelle was still alive at that point. David/Ophelia had Brenna in 1998 which lead to David/Ophelia/Aliza getting a place together. Nora/Keira started having sex with Drew that year (1998), and moved in with Hunter/Annabelle/Drew the following year (1999). Annabelle wouldn't pass away for 3 more years (2002), after which Hunter was "on the market" (so to speak) and joined Drew in having sex with Nora/Keira.

Getting back to the speculation, I'll admit I'm not sure of David's age and have been guessing that he's the same age as Ophelia. This would mean David was a mere 15 when he bought a home, which is surprising but keep in mind that Hunter cosigned the loan and was giving David financial advice.

As for new Annabelle, while I personally doubt David or Drew are her father, either are technically possible based on the timeline. If original Annabelle is her birth mother, then she's at least 17 years old in the game's present (2019), which would seem to fit with the her youthful air when we meet her in chapter 12. If David or Drew are her father, she wouldn't have been conceived earlier than 1998 when David met Annabelle and when Drew became sexually active, making new Annabelle 21 at the oldest.

I still can't for the life of me understand why Nora and Keira would've shacked up with Hunter. We know he was already heavily scarred/disfigured by that point. I wonder if he was using chemical means back then too?
Keep in mind Hunter presumably had other seduction skills besides the chemicals, and if Hunter was using chemicals on them, Nora and Keira never seemed to figure it out. I guess what happened was after 3 years of getting fucked by Drew, they were so addicted to sex that they would have been more receptive to Hunter? :unsure:
 
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Is there a way to disable the bottom left portrait during dialogues?
I think someone made a mod recently for that, if you want to make it more difficult to follow who's talking when they're off-screen, or to tell their tone from the changing expressions in the portraits.
 

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We shouldn't be too sure about what we really know about the past. One source is the letter or diary or so from the MC's father's legacy (David?) and one is Hunter. Both have reasons not to be entirely truthful about their past. So there ist still room for some speculations...;)
 
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We shouldn't be too sure about what we really know about the past. One source is the letter or diary or so from the MC's father's legacy (David?) and one is Hunter. Both have reasons not to be entirely truthful about their past. So there ist still room for some speculations...;)
Well, not entirely true. Nora admitted to having sex with both David and Drew, which is a bit surprising considering how young they were at the time (possibly as young as 12 in David's case). If anything you'd think she'd deny that. Nora and Keira also didn't deny it when Hunter mentioned fucking both of them on the regular. And of course we know that Keira and Drew had Lucia together. So really the only thing we're speculating about is specific dates and whether Annabelle was involved in all the shagging. I suppose the question of David & Drew having a tryst might also be uncertain given it was in David's journal. I'm surprised the MC hasn't talked with Drew about it, but then again it's not like they've really had any meaningful interactions since she showed up. Perhaps that will come next episode now that more stuff is out in the open among the family.
 
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Well, not entirely true. Nora admitted to having sex with both David and Drew, which is a bit surprising considering how young they were at the time (possibly as young as 12 in David's case). If anything you'd think she'd deny that. Nora and Keira also didn't deny it when Hunter mentioned fucking both of them on the regular. And of course we know that Keira and Drew had Lucia together. So really the only thing we're speculating about is specific dates and whether Annabelle was involved in all the shagging. I suppose the question of David & Drew having a tryst might also be uncertain given it was in David's journal. I'm surprised the MC hasn't talked with Drew about it, but then again it's not like they've really had any meaningful interactions since she showed up. Perhaps that will come next episode now that more stuff is out in the open among the family.
Yes, as you say, many facts have been corroborated by multiple characters, or at least not refuted when given the opportunity. There are still a few things where Hermit76's point (i.e. the "unreliable narrator" concept) may apply, primarily around David's affair and even his death. I'm still skeptical about both until we get more information/proof. And of course now we have new Annabelle, whom no one (left) in the house knew about, so many things could be possible regarding her.
 
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Do you think it's possible now that the girls know about Hunter's business they will take over? I mean if they will continue having sex for the viewers and keeping that money
 

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Do you think it's possible now that the girls know about Hunter's business they will take over?
Of course not. First of all, they were very freaked out about it, and second of all, they'd need to disconnect all camera's and replace them. After all, that account they're broadcasting on is tied to Hunter's (unknown) bank account. They wouldn't get any money from it at all.
 
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