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Think this one is a missed opportunity up until now at least. The character models are outstanding, the girls on the whole are beautiful but where it is lacking in my view is the trans content. Drew is stunning and having a few lewd scenes with the MC would have really added to the game. Would have liked to see more trans characters in there too, Peyton seems like a forgotten idea, an early stage TG, trap or CD character would have added more than countless females in my view. There surely would have been scope to make one or two of them a trap or trans.

For my own tastes I'm not a huge fan of the corruption aspect, understand the premise is unique and this thing is other folks's cup of tea but I think the story could have been told just as well without it, removing the grand father from the plot.

As someone who is trying to build my own VN though, I admire the presentation style here, the vast amount of work that has gone into the renders and animations is amazing, that is the aspect of building these VNs I struggle with most. The game has a quality feel and if corruption and only straight sex is your thing then this one hits all the targets.
 
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Think this one is a missed opportunity up until now at least. The character models are outstanding, the girls on the whole are beautiful but where it is lacking in my view is the trans content. Drew is stunning and having a few lewd scenes with the MC would have really added to the game. Would have liked to see more trans characters in there too, Peyton seems like a forgotten idea, an early stage TG, trap or CD character would have added more than countless females in my view. There surely would have been scope to make one or two of them a trap or trans.

For my own tastes I'm not a huge fan of the corruption aspect, understand the premise is unique and this thing is other folks's cup of tea but I think the story could have been told just as well without it, removing the grand father from the plot.

As someone who is trying to build my own VN though, I admire the presentation style here, the vast amount of work that has gone into the renders and animations is amazing, that is the aspect of building these VNs I struggle with most. The game has a quality feel and if corruption and only straight sex is your thing then this one hits all the targets.
Wow, that was a very polite way to say you think this game should be totally different.

The corruption thanks to the grandfather is what causes the story to happen. Without it there's no story, no conflict, just a magical dick simulator. The characters would be greatly diminished if they just started having incestual sex without something to help them break the taboo.

Straight sex (and a little lesbian sex) is the fantasy of this game. It's not trying to be all things to all audiences. The fact there's any trans content at all is already too much for some people. This game already has 2 trans characters, which if anything is overrepresentative for the rural setting. And I say this as someone who actually likes Drew and her content.
 

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Wow, that was a very polite way to say you think this game should be totally different.

The corruption thanks to the grandfather is what causes the story to happen. Without it there's no story, no conflict, just a magical dick simulator. The characters would be greatly diminished if they just started having incestual sex without something to help them break the taboo.

Straight sex (and a little lesbian sex) is the fantasy of this game. It's not trying to be all things to all audiences. The fact there's any trans content at all is already too much for some people. This game already has 2 trans characters, which if anything is overrepresentative for the rural setting. And I say this as someone who actually likes Drew and her content.
...Rural setting?
 

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...Rural setting?
...Yes? You know, "rural", as opposed to "urban" or "suburban". Ophelia's house is surrounded by fields and forests, so it looks pretty rural to me.

...Or were you questioning my assertion about trans people in rural settings? I don't have statistics, but it seems to me they would gravitate toward cities that tend to be more liberal and accepting.
 

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...Yes? You know, "rural", as opposed to "urban" or "suburban". Ophelia's house is surrounded by fields and forests, so it looks pretty rural to me.

...Or were you questioning my assertion about trans people in rural settings? I don't have statistics, but it seems to me they would gravitate toward cities that tend to be more liberal and accepting.
A hotel and a mall not that far from said house, everyone owns a pool, or am I just from the booneys and this is the rich sort of rural?
 

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Wow, that was a very polite way to say you think this game should be totally different.

The corruption thanks to the grandfather is what causes the story to happen. Without it there's no story, no conflict, just a magical dick simulator. The characters would be greatly diminished if they just started having incestual sex without something to help them break the taboo.

Straight sex (and a little lesbian sex) is the fantasy of this game. It's not trying to be all things to all audiences. The fact there's any trans content at all is already too much for some people. This game already has 2 trans characters, which if anything is overrepresentative for the rural setting. And I say this as someone who actually likes Drew and her content.
Not really. I talk about it not being my cup of tea. I don't expect the game to change to my tastes at all.

The problem really is that a lot of developers go for getting in as many tags as they can so they can draw a bigger audience, it makes a lot of sense. And what tends to happen is that they offer a tiny bit of content for those less important (to their game) tags. This is especially true for trans content and it becomes very frustrating because as a fan of that genre you end up investing a lot of time in a game waiting for the small amount of trans content and find it to be underwhelming. As I stated, this was IN MY VIEW, a wasted opportunity because the author created a excellent trans character but did nothing with her and the MC :(

It's way easier to find straight sex, whatever your sub genre is, than trans stuff and when on the rare occasion we get it in a game it's often futa stuff, which in all honesty is not something that appeals massively to me as it's basically just putting a dick on a biological girl who hasn't gone through the challenges of transition.

I'm sorry if my post offended you and your favourite game but it was really more directed at adult games in general rather than just this one which I had just finished playing.
 

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The problem really is that a lot of developers go for getting in as many tags as they can so they can draw a bigger audience, it makes a lot of sense.
Well yeah, the further in development games get, the more they have to add to keep things interesting. You have to out do yourself each time. Like any movie for instance, lord of the rings, marvel movies, harry potters. You don't do less with each entry, you do more.
And what tends to happen is that they offer a tiny bit of content for those less important (to their game) tags. This is especially true for trans content and it becomes very frustrating because as a fan of that genre you end up investing a lot of time in a game waiting for the small amount of trans content and find it to be underwhelming. As I stated, this was IN MY VIEW, a wasted opportunity because the author created a excellent trans character but did nothing with her and the MC :(
Well that's subjective. There isn't really an "important" a tag for this game as incest and it does that well every chapter. Other then that tag, the other tags will vary in appearance / importance. You should have already known that the Futa/trans tag was a minor tag with how late it was used / introduced. It will be there next chapters, but you can't call shocked when it's not a focused tagged.
 
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Not really. I talk about it not being my cup of tea. I don't expect the game to change to my tastes at all.

The problem really is that a lot of developers go for getting in as many tags as they can so they can draw a bigger audience, it makes a lot of sense. And what tends to happen is that they offer a tiny bit of content for those less important (to their game) tags. This is especially true for trans content and it becomes very frustrating because as a fan of that genre you end up investing a lot of time in a game waiting for the small amount of trans content and find it to be underwhelming. As I stated, this was IN MY VIEW, a wasted opportunity because the author created a excellent trans character but did nothing with her and the MC :(

It's way easier to find straight sex, whatever your sub genre is, than trans stuff and when on the rare occasion we get it in a game it's often futa stuff, which in all honesty is not something that appeals massively to me as it's basically just putting a dick on a biological girl who hasn't gone through the challenges of transition.

I'm sorry if my post offended you and your favourite game but it was really more directed at adult games in general rather than just this one which I had just finished playing.
No offense taken, and I sympathize with your dilemma. Audience statistics and basic economics are stacked against people who want to see trans content; however, I think you may have an overly reductive view when it comes to THIS game. Yes, it includes a variety of tagged fetishes, but I think it's unfair of you to suggest that the dev deliberately includes those fetishes only to draw an audience, and at the same time lament he doesn't include more to appeal to your tastes specifically.

The dev is simply telling the story he wants to tell, and that is a major reason this game stands out: because of the quality of the writing. As outlandish as the story is, there's a degree of verisimilitude when it comes to the characters. You may see it as a waste if Sterling (the M.C.) and Drew DON'T have sex, but more people might see it as a waste if they DID have sex, because it would compromise the characters. In my opinion, Sterling has no sexual interest in Drew, and so the only way they'd end up having sex is if Drew raped Sterling and THAT is not only implausible, but would damage Drew as a sympathetic character.
 
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A hotel and a mall not that far from said house, everyone owns a pool, or am I just from the booneys and this is the rich sort of rural?
We don't know how far the house is from the mall or the hotel; could be 10 minutes away, could be an hour. And though we may tend to think of "rural" areas as being... economically challenged, it really has more to do with open countryside and low population density. So in my mind, the house is in a rural area, with the vast fields visible outside the windows, and forests and other natural spaces within walking distance.
 
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It has a much longer set up, but the pay off is much better in the long run.
Indeed, felt that on ch 8 ( i think ) when Ophelia used Catherine to trying extract her milk. Felt a little disappointed that did not happened any escalation and Catherine ended up eating Ophelia out ( was hoping for it because of what she says on the first scene of the Ophelia hacking mission ). I hope there is some episode on "what if" about Catherine stealing Ophelia from sterling on that period, since is also the same moment on the story where Catherine herself is shown to start being interested on girls.

I really like the story, even tho is long, it cooks well and deliver things in the right time. Characters ain't badly written as the rest of games out there, Ophelia is probably the most "realistic" mom that i've seem so far.
 
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Indeed, felt that on ch 8 ( i think ) when Ophelia used Catherine to trying extract her milk. Felt a little disappointed that did not happened any escalation and Catherine ended up eating Ophelia out ( was hoping for it because of what she says on the first scene of the Ophelia hacking mission ). I hope there is some episode on "what if" about Catherine stealing Ophelia from sterling on that period, since is also the same moment on the story where Catherine herself is shown to start being interested on girls.

I really like the story, even tho is long, it cooks well and deliver things in the right time. Characters ain't badly written as the rest of games out there, Ophelia is probably the most "realistic" mom that i've seem so far.
I still would like to know why Ophelia's lactation suddenly stopped. We never really found out if that was due to Hunter's drugs causing weird hormonal changes or not, did we?
 

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I still would like to know why Ophelia's lactation suddenly stopped. We never really found out if that was due to Hunter's drugs causing weird hormonal changes or not, did we?
I don't recall a conclusive link between Hunter's drugs and Ophelia's lactation, but that's certainly the impression I got. It seems likely she's no longer being exposed to the drug, either because Sterling blocked it (e.g. by throwing away tainted products) or Hunter simply stopped using it. It does make me wonder, (besides so he could drink it) why would Hunter want to cause Ophelia to lactate in the first place? I guess it made her hornier, similar to how she's mentioned pregnancy makes her hornier, and Hunter was simply hoping to capitalize on that? If so, perhaps he stopped using that drug because it's no longer needed, with Ophelia's libido in high gear now.
 
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We don't know how far the house is from the mall or the hotel; could be 10 minutes away, could be an hour. And though we may tend to think of "rural" areas as being... economically challenged, it really has more to do with open countryside and low population density. So in my mind, the house is in a rural area, with the vast fields visible outside the windows, and forests and other natural spaces within walking distance.
Low population density would make the mall and the hotel (especially as fancy as it looked) utterly useless unless that place is a tourist hotspot, and the 10 to an hour trip is (in my experience) for finding another house not a hotel or a mall.

Though, they could live in the outskirts or only the vital stuff is being rendered, example, Teff's house is sorrounded by a big fence to not let the 'neighbors' see or complain about them being naked (don't remember the exact reason)... there's nothing there, the house is smack dab in the middle of an empty field, you can see nothing over the fence.

Also Brenna complains about neighbors spying on her when she takes naps on the pool and you said it yourself, the place is surrounded by open fields and forests (or the neighbors take a long hike to watch her nap in a bikini).
 
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Not really. I talk about it not being my cup of tea. I don't expect the game to change to my tastes at all.

The problem really is that a lot of developers go for getting in as many tags as they can so they can draw a bigger audience, it makes a lot of sense. And what tends to happen is that they offer a tiny bit of content for those less important (to their game) tags. This is especially true for trans content and it becomes very frustrating because as a fan of that genre you end up investing a lot of time in a game waiting for the small amount of trans content and find it to be underwhelming. As I stated, this was IN MY VIEW, a wasted opportunity because the author created a excellent trans character but did nothing with her and the MC :(

It's way easier to find straight sex, whatever your sub genre is, than trans stuff and when on the rare occasion we get it in a game it's often futa stuff, which in all honesty is not something that appeals massively to me as it's basically just putting a dick on a biological girl who hasn't gone through the challenges of transition.

I'm sorry if my post offended you and your favourite game but it was really more directed at adult games in general rather than just this one which I had just finished playing.
Please stop. Be what you are but please stop.
 
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