Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[NachoAndCheez]

He hasn't mentioned anything about steam at any point. So while i think it's not likely, he hasn't said no either.

It's not easy to just make a chapter select for this games, because the game keeps records of what scenes and how many times you've done something to clear the chapter. He would have to create the jump in the code and manually put for each chapter the right amount each chapters points should be or it will create problems for that chapter and every chapter forward. He then has to do that for each chapter.

If it was a a game that just played out without objectives like a static novel, that really easy on the other hand. Maybe it's something he could do when he's completely done with the game. A sort of quality of life to add after.

I really like the idea about the chapter name. I'll ask him if he could do that.

No, I guess I didn't explained clearly.

I didn't mean a chapter select option for the gameplay.

In the gallery the only way to navigate each tab is with two arrows that take you one chapter forward or backward at a time, so from opening the gallery to getting to the chapter 12 screen it takes 11 clicks, so instead of the arrows it would be really good to have buttons that go from 1 to 12 and each button would take you to the chapter screen in the gallery.

Now, just to throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks, after everything is said and done it would be good to have an actual chapter select because when all is said and done the only thing you would reload a save is to go to the gallery and while the gallery is cool it's like watching a tv series with an overarching story and multiple call backs in random order, watching a chapter from beguining to end with the events having cohesion is the best experience.

Or maybe he adds repeatable scenes after there is nothing to do that aren't added to the gallery so that there is a point to the sandbox after the courtain call.

 

[dartred]

You can't just set it to "start at chapter X" in the code, because the game needs to be told how many times you've completed the girls objectives. since it puts a +1 in the flag for their respective codes. for example, a random Ophelia scene in ch 3 can only be triggered when you've done the previous objectives. If you jump straight to CH 0, without putting in the code that the previous scenes have been watched the right amount of times. it will break the game.

I don't know if you remember people complaining about a Cath scene not working an update or 2 ago? It had turned out that people who were replaying her scene in the gallery were adding +1 to the code every time they viewed it. So when the update came out, they couldn't progress because they had the wrong number times the scene has been watched in their flags.

So with that, WWG will have to go through each chapter and code the jump to chapter button to also write how many flags need to be triggered for the chapter.

it's quite a bit of work.

 

[NachoAndCheez]

You can't just set it to "start at chapter X" in the code, because the game needs to be told how many times you've completed the girls objectives. since it puts a +1 in the flag for their respective codes. for example, a random Ophelia scene in ch 3 can only be triggered when you've done the previous objectives. If you jump straight to CH 0, without putting in the code that the previous scenes have been watched the right amount of times. it will break the game.

I don't know if you remember people complaining about a Cath scene not working an update or 2 ago? It had turned out that people who were replaying her scene in the gallery were adding +1 to the code every time they viewed it. So when the update came out, they couldn't progress because they had the wrong number times the scene has been watched in their flags.

So with that, WWG will have to go through each chapter and code the jump to chapter button to also write how many flags need to be triggered for the chapter.

it's quite a bit of work.

Ok, but on the gallery it can be implemented no?

 

[Fayn Arawn]

You can't just set it to "start at chapter X" in the code, because the game needs to be told how many times you've completed the girls objectives. since it puts a +1 in the flag for their respective codes. for example, a random Ophelia scene in ch 3 can only be triggered when you've done the previous objectives. If you jump straight to CH 0, without putting in the code that the previous scenes have been watched the right amount of times. it will break the game.

I don't know if you remember people complaining about a Cath scene not working an update or 2 ago? It had turned out that people who were replaying her scene in the gallery were adding +1 to the code every time they viewed it. So when the update came out, they couldn't progress because they had the wrong number times the scene has been watched in their flags.

So with that, WWG will have to go through each chapter and code the jump to chapter button to also write how many flags need to be triggered for the chapter.

it's quite a bit of work.

"...you're KILLING me, Smalls!"

He's talking about shortcuts in the gallery pages! Not in the game!

Spoiler: Gallery chapter select mock-up

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[NachoAndCheez]

"...you're KILLING me, Smalls!"

He's talking about shortcuts in the gallery pages! Not in the game!

Spoiler: Gallery chapter select mock-up

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GOD DAMN IT!!! YOU BEAT ME TO IT!!! I WAS EDITING THE SCREENSHOTS!!!

 

[dartred]

Ok, but on the gallery it can be implemented no?

i was replying to Fayn and i also misread what he was asking. i thought he meant chapter select to the full chapters, not the gallery. yeah, jumping to gallery select is a lot easier to implement.

 

[TyLaBeau]

Honestly all of them both good/bad ones

Yeah same here but I hope we get at least one or a few more scenes with Cerberus.

 

[dartred]

Yeah same here but I hope we get at least one or a few more scenes with Cerberus.

At least one with each main girl, but if not because he's got too much to do. At least with Ophelia i hope.

 

[JabyShrek988]

At least one with each main girl, but if not because he's got too much to do. At least with Ophelia i hope.

I recall a fan animation pack featuring a dog in one new NTR ending.

 

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

I am reading "endings for each girl", but shouldn't this be a harem game? I mean, there should be a harem ending also, right?

 

[DD69-1]

I am reading "endings for each girl", but shouldn't this be a harem game? I mean, there should be a harem ending also, right?

Harem and vanilla guys are not the top tier supporters for this project [which I can understand]... This project is mainly funded by NTR fans.

For the NON-NTR endings, nothing is confirmed yet, so wait till chapter 13 has ended and maybe a new chapter is announced with vanilla endings, because chapter 13 will have NTR ends only.

 

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

Harem and vanilla guys are not the top tier supporters for this project [which I can understand]... This project is mainly funded by NTR fans.

For the NON-NTR endings, nothing is confirmed yet, so wait till chapter 13 has ended and maybe a new chapter is announced with vanilla endings, because chapter 13 will have NTR ends only.

But, as the dev said (it's also in the OP), all the NTR is non-canonic in the form of bad endings (like every chapter), so I wouldn't call them the true endings.

 

[DD69-1]

But, as the dev said (it's also in the OP), all the NTR is non-canonic in the form of bad endings (like every chapter), so I wouldn't call them the true endings.

I know they're non-canon, but the chapter 13 will only have NTR bad ends as confirmed earlier. Ophelia still doesn't have enough scenes with Sterling and her arc pushed her into threesomes earlier in canon game. Hunter, Kevin and Drew will seemingly get to bang her and now they want Cerberus in the action as well ?

Chapter 12 had 2 NON-NTR scenes with Ophelia and both with the same position, that's just lazy, wherein she got 2 bad ends one with Hunter and Kevin, both were huge scenes. I get called out for asking more scenes for NON-NTR path for Ophelia so that it'll do the character justice but that never happens; she has gotten huge NTR scenes back to back from chapter 10. The scene count with Sterling is never even in context for a NON-NTR game and how her story is pushed I doubt any good canon endings will come from this.

 

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

I know they're non-canon, but the chapter 13 will only have NTR bad ends as confirmed earlier. Ophelia still doesn't have enough scenes with Sterling and her arc pushed her into threesomes earlier in canon game. Hunter, Kevin and Drew will seemingly get to bang her and now they want Cerberus in the action as well ?

Chapter 12 had 2 NON-NTR scenes with Ophelia and both with the same position, that's just lazy, wherein she got 2 bad ends one with Hunter and Kevin, both were huge scenes. I get called out for asking more scenes for NON-NTR path for Ophelia so that it'll do the character justice but that never happens; she has gotten huge NTR scenes back to back from chapter 10. The scene count with Sterling is never even in context for a NON-NTR game and how her story is pushed I doubt any good canon endings will come from this.

Yeah, I sadly noticed the the NTR scenes have become increasingly huge and well made compared to the vanilla ones. I get that NTR fans like to waste their money and the dev likes money a bit too much, but there should be a correct balance between vanilla and NTR scenes, and I don't mean only quantity, but also quality.

 

[Small-pp-22]

Yeah, I sadly noticed the the NTR scenes have become increasingly huge and well made compared to the vanilla ones. I get that NTR fans like to waste their money and the dev likes money a bit too much, but there should be a correct balance between vanilla and NTR scenes, and I don't mean only quantity, but also quality.

That's always been the case if you pay attention to it. The NTR scenes also always happen way more easily. Look how long it took for Brenna and Orphelia to finally do the deed with Sterling(yes yes, slow burn people will say), but how easily their panties drop for Hunter each chapter, and in general more efforts are put in the NTR scenes, more renders and angles, the conclusions draw themselves at that point

 

[Small-pp-22]

I know they're non-canon, but the chapter 13 will only have NTR bad ends as confirmed earlier. Ophelia still doesn't have enough scenes with Sterling and her arc pushed her into threesomes earlier in canon game. Hunter, Kevin and Drew will seemingly get to bang her and now they want Cerberus in the action as well ?

Chapter 12 had 2 NON-NTR scenes with Ophelia and both with the same position, that's just lazy, wherein she got 2 bad ends one with Hunter and Kevin, both were huge scenes. I get called out for asking more scenes for NON-NTR path for Ophelia so that it'll do the character justice but that never happens; she has gotten huge NTR scenes back to back from chapter 10. The scene count with Sterling is never even in context for a NON-NTR game and how her story is pushed I doubt any good canon endings will come from this.

It was always the way this game would go lol, easy to see from the start

 

[DD69-1]

Yeah, I sadly noticed the the NTR scenes have become increasingly huge and well made compared to the vanilla ones. I get that NTR fans like to waste their money and the dev likes money a bit too much, but there should be a correct balance between vanilla and NTR scenes, and I don't mean only quantity, but also quality.

The main problem with Vanilla scenes is that there are actually too many female characters so MC [I don't know if I should call Sterling that at this point] has to spend time with each of them and fuck them but the scenes with the female characters are shorter and aren't as rewarding, since the dev has to look out for other female characters as well, since he's added so many. But the NTR characters [Hunter, Kevin, Cerberus, Drew ] counter is sorta - fixated on the main cast [Brenna, Catherine and Ophelia].

And the NTR scenes from the beginning let's say chapter 4 are solely based on the Main cast [Brenna, Catherine and Ophelia], and they never deviate from this as this is where the big bucks is coming from, so the Female main cast get a lot of screen-time in those NTR events because it's the path that is followed; and when you compare those scene quality with that of Sterling's it falls short always because of the huge cast. NTR crowd won't admit this it but it's the clear from the get go.

So your point being that there is an imbalance in terms of female main cast scenes ; I completely agree with that. The slow burn and how long it took for Sterling to bang them is also ridiculous and pathetic in itself.

 

[SuddenReal]

Yeah, I sadly noticed the the NTR scenes have become increasingly huge and well made compared to the vanilla ones.

This simply isn't true. You only get the impression that the scenes are huge because they're not divided in chunks like the vanilla ones are. Those are split up in set-up and then finally pay off, but you can't do that with the NTR scenes because that's a non-cannon ending.

Also, if you're saying that the orgy with Kumiko's family isn't of the same quality as any of the NTR endings, I think you just exposed yourself as an NTR fanboy.

The NTR scenes also always happen way more easily.

Wow... look at that... the villain gets the instant gratification with devious ploys while the hero gets his just reward after long work. Of course the bad guy gets the fast reward. That's how villains work.

 

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

Also, if you're saying that the orgy with Kumiko's family isn't of the same quality as any of the NTR endings, I think you just exposed yourself as an NTR fanboy.

That orgy was simply great, full of scenes and angles, and that's my point. All the other vanilla scenes (I am talking about the lewd ones) are becoming less and less creative (only one position, no angles). I agree with you that seen as a whole, the vanilla scenes are countless times more long than the NTR ones, but if you look only at the lewd aspect (it's a porn AVN, after all) the NTR scenes are way more creative.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

"75% of statistics are made up to prove a point."

I see a lot of subjective opinions being presented as facts here. "Quality of scenes" etc.

The dev is telling the story he wants to tell, it's not dictated by patrons.

I also see dissatisfaction with amount of vanilla solo scenes, which I understand. But keep in mind that the story is nearing the end, so vanilla isn't just competing with the NTR aspect anymore, but also the harem aspect. There simply isn't enough time left for much vanilla solo stuff. This should not surprise anyone, the story was always heading towards a harem end, as Sterling becomes a sex god he's not going to settle down and be exclusive with one girl.