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DD69-1

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I am reading "endings for each girl", but shouldn't this be a harem game? I mean, there should be a harem ending also, right?
Harem and vanilla guys are not the top tier supporters for this project [which I can understand]... This project is mainly funded by NTR fans.

For the NON-NTR endings, nothing is confirmed yet, so wait till chapter 13 has ended and maybe a new chapter is announced with vanilla endings, because chapter 13 will have NTR ends only.
 

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Harem and vanilla guys are not the top tier supporters for this project [which I can understand]... This project is mainly funded by NTR fans.

For the NON-NTR endings, nothing is confirmed yet, so wait till chapter 13 has ended and maybe a new chapter is announced with vanilla endings, because chapter 13 will have NTR ends only.
But, as the dev said (it's also in the OP), all the NTR is non-canonic in the form of bad endings (like every chapter), so I wouldn't call them the true endings.
 
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But, as the dev said (it's also in the OP), all the NTR is non-canonic in the form of bad endings (like every chapter), so I wouldn't call them the true endings.
I know they're non-canon, but the chapter 13 will only have NTR bad ends as confirmed earlier. Ophelia still doesn't have enough scenes with Sterling and her arc pushed her into threesomes earlier in canon game. Hunter, Kevin and Drew will seemingly get to bang her and now they want Cerberus in the action as well ? :rolleyes:

Chapter 12 had 2 NON-NTR scenes with Ophelia and both with the same position, that's just lazy, wherein she got 2 bad ends one with Hunter and Kevin, both were huge scenes. I get called out for asking more scenes for NON-NTR path for Ophelia so that it'll do the character justice but that never happens; she has gotten huge NTR scenes back to back from chapter 10. The scene count with Sterling is never even in context for a NON-NTR game and how her story is pushed I doubt any good canon endings will come from this.
 

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I know they're non-canon, but the chapter 13 will only have NTR bad ends as confirmed earlier. Ophelia still doesn't have enough scenes with Sterling and her arc pushed her into threesomes earlier in canon game. Hunter, Kevin and Drew will seemingly get to bang her and now they want Cerberus in the action as well ? :rolleyes:

Chapter 12 had 2 NON-NTR scenes with Ophelia and both with the same position, that's just lazy, wherein she got 2 bad ends one with Hunter and Kevin, both were huge scenes. I get called out for asking more scenes for NON-NTR path for Ophelia so that it'll do the character justice but that never happens; she has gotten huge NTR scenes back to back from chapter 10. The scene count with Sterling is never even in context for a NON-NTR game and how her story is pushed I doubt any good canon endings will come from this.
Yeah, I sadly noticed the the NTR scenes have become increasingly huge and well made compared to the vanilla ones. I get that NTR fans like to waste their money and the dev likes money a bit too much, but there should be a correct balance between vanilla and NTR scenes, and I don't mean only quantity, but also quality.
 

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Yeah, I sadly noticed the the NTR scenes have become increasingly huge and well made compared to the vanilla ones. I get that NTR fans like to waste their money and the dev likes money a bit too much, but there should be a correct balance between vanilla and NTR scenes, and I don't mean only quantity, but also quality.
That's always been the case if you pay attention to it. The NTR scenes also always happen way more easily. Look how long it took for Brenna and Orphelia to finally do the deed with Sterling(yes yes, slow burn people will say), but how easily their panties drop for Hunter each chapter, and in general more efforts are put in the NTR scenes, more renders and angles, the conclusions draw themselves at that point
 

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I know they're non-canon, but the chapter 13 will only have NTR bad ends as confirmed earlier. Ophelia still doesn't have enough scenes with Sterling and her arc pushed her into threesomes earlier in canon game. Hunter, Kevin and Drew will seemingly get to bang her and now they want Cerberus in the action as well ? :rolleyes:

Chapter 12 had 2 NON-NTR scenes with Ophelia and both with the same position, that's just lazy, wherein she got 2 bad ends one with Hunter and Kevin, both were huge scenes. I get called out for asking more scenes for NON-NTR path for Ophelia so that it'll do the character justice but that never happens; she has gotten huge NTR scenes back to back from chapter 10. The scene count with Sterling is never even in context for a NON-NTR game and how her story is pushed I doubt any good canon endings will come from this.
It was always the way this game would go lol, easy to see from the start
 

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Yeah, I sadly noticed the the NTR scenes have become increasingly huge and well made compared to the vanilla ones. I get that NTR fans like to waste their money and the dev likes money a bit too much, but there should be a correct balance between vanilla and NTR scenes, and I don't mean only quantity, but also quality.
The main problem with Vanilla scenes is that there are actually too many female characters so MC [I don't know if I should call Sterling that at this point] has to spend time with each of them and fuck them but the scenes with the female characters are shorter and aren't as rewarding, since the dev has to look out for other female characters as well, since he's added so many. But the NTR characters [Hunter, Kevin, Cerberus, Drew ] counter is sorta - fixated on the main cast [Brenna, Catherine and Ophelia].

And the NTR scenes from the beginning let's say chapter 4 are solely based on the Main cast [Brenna, Catherine and Ophelia], and they never deviate from this as this is where the big bucks is coming from, so the Female main cast get a lot of screen-time in those NTR events because it's the path that is followed; and when you compare those scene quality with that of Sterling's it falls short always because of the huge cast. NTR crowd won't admit this it but it's the clear from the get go.

So your point being that there is an imbalance in terms of female main cast scenes ; I completely agree with that. The slow burn and how long it took for Sterling to bang them is also ridiculous and pathetic in itself.
 
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Yeah, I sadly noticed the the NTR scenes have become increasingly huge and well made compared to the vanilla ones.
This simply isn't true. You only get the impression that the scenes are huge because they're not divided in chunks like the vanilla ones are. Those are split up in set-up and then finally pay off, but you can't do that with the NTR scenes because that's a non-cannon ending.

Also, if you're saying that the orgy with Kumiko's family isn't of the same quality as any of the NTR endings, I think you just exposed yourself as an NTR fanboy.

The NTR scenes also always happen way more easily.
Wow... look at that... the villain gets the instant gratification with devious ploys while the hero gets his just reward after long work. Of course the bad guy gets the fast reward. That's how villains work.
 

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Also, if you're saying that the orgy with Kumiko's family isn't of the same quality as any of the NTR endings, I think you just exposed yourself as an NTR fanboy.
That orgy was simply great, full of scenes and angles, and that's my point. All the other vanilla scenes (I am talking about the lewd ones) are becoming less and less creative (only one position, no angles). I agree with you that seen as a whole, the vanilla scenes are countless times more long than the NTR ones, but if you look only at the lewd aspect (it's a porn AVN, after all) the NTR scenes are way more creative.
 
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"75% of statistics are made up to prove a point." :WeSmart:

I see a lot of subjective opinions being presented as facts here. "Quality of scenes" etc.

The dev is telling the story he wants to tell, it's not dictated by patrons.

I also see dissatisfaction with amount of vanilla solo scenes, which I understand. But keep in mind that the story is nearing the end, so vanilla isn't just competing with the NTR aspect anymore, but also the harem aspect. There simply isn't enough time left for much vanilla solo stuff. This should not surprise anyone, the story was always heading towards a harem end, as Sterling becomes a sex god he's not going to settle down and be exclusive with one girl.
 

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So will 13 be a skip for me as a "no thank you ntr" person, or will there still be content there?
 

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That orgy was simply great, full of scenes and angles, and that's my point. All the other vanilla scenes (I am talking about the lewd ones) are becoming less and less creative (only one position, no angles). I agree with you that seen as a whole, the vanilla scenes are countless times more long than the NTR ones, but if you look only at the lewd aspect (it's a porn AVN, after all) the NTR scenes are way more creative.
I think issue is the slow burn of vanilla meant often a lack of pay off when you finally got to the good stuff, my fave girl is of course Lucia but given how much action we got with her was mostly in the dark or her solo content update after update of build up it was underwhelming esp when meanwhile he did a whole dedicated what if where is fucked front and centre in multiple angles and even gets pregnancy scenes... you kinda think "wtf?". Meanwhile speaking of the kumiko family orgy why did THAT get so much focus when we never met one of the sisters before, one just the update before and boom a big focal scene in their honour? Or a random indian doctor out of leftfield was getting glorious sex scenes? even the hot blonde who i thought would be glorious got an awful hair cut and was getting as much content with her own dog than with MC.

Perhaps this was backer influence derailing things? The game had a simple premise with an entranged young wish he was a stud batting off his pervy predator grandfather in a race to the hotties around them... you tuned in every update to get to the good stuff but the latter half of the game whilst had about 500% of the content it seemed all a fever dream compared to first half of the game... where big sister turns into lunatic creating nazi insignias to punish receptionists who were allies not enemies as random extended story arcs and the NTR minority flooding the higher backer tiers turning the story into an NTR fuck fest where it was no longer about the old bastard grandpa who you were never meant to like but charismatic hot uncles now aunts, dogs and even the fat fuck loser got buff and all are getting laid in the main updates (no longer what if material). Half the cast are also as interested in if not MORE interested in other vagina than the MC these days - before we had an established set of lesbian fuck buddies now but now it feels like almost everyone.
 
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