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Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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SuddenReal said:
Wow... look at that... the villain gets the instant gratification with devious ploys while the hero gets his just reward after long work. Of course the bad guy gets the fast reward. That's how villains work.
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I spent my life watching and reading stories of villains who worked their whole life for something just to get overtaken by a hero with one training arc, thats even a meme, so I find this comment interesting
 
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Skode said:
Meanwhile speaking of the kumiko family orgy why did THAT get so much focus when we never met one of the sisters before, one just the update before and boom a big focal scene in their honour? Or a random indian doctor out of leftfield was getting glorious sex scenes? even the hot blonde who i thought would be glorious got an awful hair cut and was getting as much content with her own dog than with MC.
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While it was certainly a slow burn with Sterling's family members, his rapid seduction of other women is literally part of the story. The whole thing is to show Sterling's evolution as he becomes the new Dio Del Sesso (i.e. "god of sex"), mirroring Hunter's own history. Hunter first learned/practiced on his own family, and then went around conquering other families. Sterling has practically become Hunter at this point, with Caspian's family (Kumiko, Amber, etc.) being his first external conquest.

Perhaps this was backer influence derailing things?
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People are vastly overestimating the influence patrons have had on this game. As explained above, there is plot thread in this game that is obvious if one pays attention to the big picture.

The game had a simple premise with an entranged young wish he was a stud batting off his pervy predator grandfather in a race to the hotties around them... you tuned in every update to get to the good stuff but the latter half of the game whilst had about 500% of the content it seemed all a fever dream compared to first half of the game... where big sister turns into lunatic creating nazi insignias to punish receptionists who were allies not enemies as random extended story arcs
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Yeah, there's been some random crazy stuff, but this game is a comedy with a lot of edgy/offensive humor. I maintain that there's a continuous story arc, but you may need to replay the game to perceive it. It's easy to forget things if it's years since you played a chapter (and not just replayed the sex scenes).

and the NTR minority flooding the higher backer tiers turning the story into an NTR fuck fest where it was no longer about the old bastard grandpa who you were never meant to like but charismatic hot uncles now aunts, dogs and even the fat fuck loser got buff and all are getting laid in the main updates (no longer what if material).
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Again, this is wrong. The only one controlling the story is WWG.

"What Ifs" were basically super-sized "bad ends", both of which are non-canon. At a certain point WWG decided to stop making stand-alone What Ifs and just make longer bad ends, because they're basically the same thing.

Half the cast are also as interested in if not MORE interested in other vagina than the MC these days - before we had an established set of lesbian fuck buddies now but now it feels like almost everyone.
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You're definitely right about this. I suppose it's a convenient way to have more variety to the sex scenes without bringing in other male characters. I enjoy it but I understand if it's not everyone's cup of tea.
 
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Skode said:
I think issue is the slow burn of vanilla meant often a lack of pay off when you finally got to the good stuff, my fave girl is of course Lucia but given how much action we got with her was mostly in the dark or her solo content update after update of build up it was underwhelming esp when meanwhile he did a whole dedicated what if where is fucked front and centre in multiple angles and even gets pregnancy scenes... you kinda think "wtf?". Meanwhile speaking of the kumiko family orgy why did THAT get so much focus when we never met one of the sisters before, one just the update before and boom a big focal scene in their honour? Or a random indian doctor out of leftfield was getting glorious sex scenes? even the hot blonde who i thought would be glorious got an awful hair cut and was getting as much content with her own dog than with MC.

Perhaps this was backer influence derailing things? The game had a simple premise with an entranged young wish he was a stud batting off his pervy predator grandfather in a race to the hotties around them... you tuned in every update to get to the good stuff but the latter half of the game whilst had about 500% of the content it seemed all a fever dream compared to first half of the game... where big sister turns into lunatic creating nazi insignias to punish receptionists who were allies not enemies as random extended story arcs and the NTR minority flooding the higher backer tiers turning the story into an NTR fuck fest where it was no longer about the old bastard grandpa who you were never meant to like but charismatic hot uncles now aunts, dogs and even the fat fuck loser got buff and all are getting laid in the main updates (no longer what if material). Half the cast are also as interested in if not MORE interested in other vagina than the MC these days - before we had an established set of lesbian fuck buddies now but now it feels like almost everyone.
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Appreciate how well articulated your expression is, can’t agree more
The “main” sex scenes are getting more and more unimaginative and lack enthusiasm/originality.

Random girls get undeserved extra attention to detail and nuance at the expense of the main cast we spent so much time “unintentionally seducing” makes the payoff feel anticlimactic.

So many unnecessary NTR scenes that never should have had any part in the storyline originally, and are essentially filler added to keep the cashflow consistent.

Just to make a point, try to count how many of the sex scenes in chapter 12 were mainly missionary and almost exactly the same animation, spoiler - it’s way too much.
 
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A couple people here seem confused. This next update will contain the Vanilla ending. Updates after that will be epilogues, not the vanilla ending of the story.

Also saying that this update will be heavily NTR because Patreon subs who pay vote for that doesn't make sense. 3 out of 4 of the Last Chance polls have resulted in Vanilla. No one has even suggested Hunter.
Only1P said:
Just to make a point, try to count how many of the sex scenes in chapter 12 were mainly missionary and almost exactly the same animation, spoiler - it’s way too much.
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I will go full autismo and actually count and compare
 
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pinkie96 said:
I will go full autismo and actually count and compare
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I did it. #Scenes.JPG
It should be noted that even with scenes that included missionary there were multiple other positions and 2 included face riding as they were threesomes. So it doesn't make sense to say that many scenes were "mainly missionary"

This also doesn't include NTR scenes but includes strapon scenes
 
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pinkie96 said:
I did it. View attachment 3712082
It should be noted that even with scenes that included missionary there were multiple other positions and 2 included face riding as they were threesomes. So it doesn't make sense to say that many scenes were "mainly missionary"

This also doesn't include NTR scenes but includes strapon scenes
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The missionary animations all have the same POV angle.
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Meanwhile the doggy animations with at least some different angles.
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In my opinion, even the missionary animations could've been done better by implementing different angles from scene to scene.
 
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pinkie96 said:
I did it. View attachment 3712082
It should be noted that even with scenes that included missionary there were multiple other positions and 2 included face riding as they were threesomes. So it doesn't make sense to say that many scenes were "mainly missionary"

This also doesn't include NTR scenes but includes strapon scenes
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Can you do it more poorly?

Brenna doggy doesn’t count at all she was doing the fucking so scratch that.

Natsuko hasn’t done a doggy position in the only scene she has in the chapter that you need to delete, but guess what she did have a missionary position which you conveniently didn’t add, that’s just from a less than a minute brief, I’m sure I can find more mistakes.

Also thanks for proving my point.
Look at The consecutive rows Ophelia Tiff Flora all have the exact same positions almost the exact amount only Ophelia has one more missionary which was the exact same animation btw.

Yeah, that’s lazy af.
 
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Only1P said:
Can you do it more poorly?

Brenna doggy doesn’t count at all she was doing the fucking so scratch that.

Natsuko hasn’t done a doggy position in the only scene she has in the chapter that you need to delete, but guess what she did have a missionary position which you conveniently didn’t add, that’s just from a less than a minute brief, I’m sure I can find more mistakes.

Also thanks for proving my point.
Look at The consecutive rows Ophelia Tiff Flora all have the exact same positions almost the exact amount only Ophelia has one more missionary which was the exact same animation btw.

Yeah, that’s lazy af.
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More dialogues and repetitive sex positions in the canon path is a must for the main story, to create that effect that the scenes are longer, that's all. The next chapter will also have more teasing/dialogues/repetitive sex positions as well in the canon path since it's the norm now and it's too late to correct that by the dev because no one complained about that to him, since that's not the paying fanbase. While the bad ends will have none of those retarded dialogues or repetitive sex positions, that's where the innovation happens, because the focus there is on the main cast and corruption.

And people will defend this by saying it's non-canon, that doesn't mean that the dev can have lame ass dialogues/repetitive sex positions and also have slow burning the canon story of Sterling with the main cast.
 
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