Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[dartred]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but do the "bad ends" still appear later on if you have NTR off?
I know I haven't seen one in a very long time.

And I just mean its like The Tyrant in the fact that if you turn NTR off, the game becomes very, very different. Which isn't a bad thing in my opinion.

no, if you turn it off. you won't even see them. i play with it on, but i assumed that if you played off, the choices don't even appear. it just goes straight to canon path.

People easily forget things. Just like you forgot all the times people asked if this game was finished because it said FINAL in the version, even though that was also clearly marked.

what do you mean, i never forgot about that lol. that was also a headache. i corrected people multiple times abou that too. this one is actually a worst case. in the span of 2 days, i think i've seen more post about the "bad resolution", then questions asked about "final release".

 

[The ArcKnight]

If you do away with him, how do still have scenes with him in bad ends? can't have a dead / gone character come back just for bad ends.

no, if you turn it off. you won't even see them. i play with it on, but i assumed that if you played off, the choices don't even appear. it just goes straight to canon path.

You are correct that if you play with NTR-off, the bad end choices do not even appear and right now hunter just shows up at the end of each update to get foiled by the MC/the girls.

So really, you don't need to change much at all, just add a skip to Hunter's events at the end of the chapter if you have NTR-off.
If you really want a story explanation, if you have NTR-off, instead of hunter's scene, you could easily say he's off visiting "his Son's new family" aka going to seduce his son's new family while leaving MC to the girls for now.

I just assume he’s absent because Sterling is making things hard for him and he needs time to scheme. Once he has his plan in place Sterling still has to go along because Hunter is still controlling the purse strings. I also think Hunter adds a lot of comic relief when he gets foiled by Sterling. The scene where he gets the oil all over him is hilarious. Not as funny as Catherine burning down the house, but still really funny.

I will give it to you that there is comedy to be had with foiling Hunter in his end of chapter shenanigans, but honestly, you get some of the best comedy from the girls, hell I'll trade a funny Catherine scene for a hunter scene any day of the week.

So with how little Hunter shows up in the NTR-off story, I can see an argument to be made for keeping him/his appearance outside of mentions to the NTR-on fans only.


But my hate of Hunter scenes aside, this update's humor was fucking hilarious, I cannot wait til Amber's mom tries to seduce the MC... Now THAT is some NTR I can understand. (Good natured joke, I swear!)

 

[SuddenReal]

what do you mean, i never forgot about that lol. that was also a headache. i corrected people multiple times abou that too. this one is actually a worst case. in the span of 2 days, i think i've seen more post about the "bad resolution", then questions asked about "final release".

My point exactly.

 

[dartred]

but you said i forgot?

 

[Ara-sH]

I hoped for more content with mom, but

 

[SuddenReal]

but you said i forgot?

Because you seemed surprised by it.

 

[dartred]

just because you've seen something many times, doesn't mean it will stop surprising you.

 

[Sinopsiso]

Actualy i have a different opinion. I think we need more Hunter. And i am not talking about NTR scenes, just remind us that he exist and actually lives in this house. Take this chapter for example. I was actually suprised that he was not involved with maid that he hired. Not sex, just some interaction. Instead other characters talking about him. Sterling didn't even ask him about that, because he literally didn't have time cause in present times, he only appeared in NTR scene (and chapter ending).
Yes, yes. He plotting something behind the scenes. But I am just thinking that dev did that for people like KnightoftheWhiteSun. And as we see it's never enough. Again people want just delete poor Hunter out of the game entirely. I don't want even events. But he actually appear with other characters events without NTR scenes wouldn't be so bad.

 

[Sinopsiso]

Oh. And we got another review based on personal tastes, not objective opinion.
Poor Hunter almost never in the game, but people still complaining.

 

[dartred]

report it like i did.

he gave it a 1 star and ALL he talked about was how much he hates NTR. that isn't the place to vent your anger. not once did he talk about how much he liked the characters, art, setting, story or anything that builds the world of the game.

heck, the people who complained about renders have more ground to stand on, because at least it could count as talking about the art/renders. (if they had read the OP at least).

but that? that's not a review. a review is something you write to leave others with information you have extracted by playing it yourself. oh you dislike NTR? fine, but how's the game?

i respect people who dislike for NTR. to each their own, enjoy what you enjoy. we can have a civil conversation about the rest of the game.

 

[Sinopsiso]

I honestly started to loose my shit with posts like that.
Seriously in these thread i lost faith in humanity. And not because people playing in incest groups NTR and futanari sex.
No. But because they don't know HOW to play it or even what they are playing. One apparently hurt his feeling when dev made him watch sex between Hunter and characters from flashback. Ok, you didn't like it, i get it. But he even used his time to write review to show everyone what a pussy he is.
And now person with 354 posts can't even read to understand whats going on. He download version with big words TEST BUILD and then complaining not wanting to accept his mistake.
I can't take this anymore. I always wanted this game to become popular because it derserves it . But i am not sure that some people here deserve this game.

 

[SoliDus001]

hank you so much for this game, WWG! As someone who despises NTR, this isn't nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. The humor is fantastic, as is the porn content. You're a god among men.

 

[Horny]

God.. I nearly died laughing playing this new 0.7 update. The top notch writing combined with the sheer ridiculousness - over the top story is just goddamn brilliant.

 

[Chuta]

look 13 or so post above your post.

thank u so much, i didn't see it

 

[Sinopsiso]

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[The ArcKnight]

Actualy i have a different opinion. I think we need more Hunter. And i am not talking about NTR scenes, just remind us that he exist and actually lives in this house. Take this chapter for example. I was actually suprised that he was not involved with maid that he hired. Not sex, just some interaction. Instead other characters talking about him. Sterling didn't even ask him about that, because he literally didn't have time cause in present times, he only appeared in NTR scene (and chapter ending).
Yes, yes. He plotting something behind the scenes. But I am just thinking that dev did that for people like KnightoftheWhiteSun. And as we see it's never enough. Again people want just delete poor Hunter out of the game entirely. I don't want even events. But he actually appear with other characters events without NTR scenes wouldn't be so bad.

Oh come on man, you are just arguing in bad faith here.
I'm not arguing to take your "poor hunter" away from you. I understand that there is a fanbase for NTR and I'm not arguing for taking it away from anyone who is here for NTR content. I'm simply pointing out that the folks who play with NTR-off, who do not even get the choice for the bad ends, might be playing not for Hunter at all and might -Gasp- actually prefer to not see his Crypt Keeper lookin ass. Shocking, I know. You could easily satisfy those people with a simple skip and let people enjoy the game how they want. Let the NTR people have their NTR and the Non-NTR people be free of the NTR drama when there is more then enough regular drama to keep people entertained.

 

[Sinopsiso]

Oh come on man, you are just arguing in bad faith here.
I'm not arguing to take your "poor hunter" away from you. I understand that there is a fanbase for NTR and I'm not arguing for taking it away from anyone who is here for NTR content. I'm simply pointing out that the folks who play with NTR-off, who do not even get the choice for the bad ends, might be playing not for Hunter at all and might -Gasp- actually prefer to not see his Crypt Keeper lookin ass. Shocking, I know. You could easily satisfy those people with a simple skip and let people enjoy the game how they want. Let the NTR people have their NTR and the Non-NTR people be free of the NTR drama when there is more then enough regular drama to keep people entertained.

Some people here didn't like futanari scene and wanted it to be optional.
Me for example didn't like shaving scene with Brenna. Maybe we should do it optional too. My point is that there are many tags here in the game and you can't fan for all fetishes. Some like breastfeeding, some not for example. It seems many thinking that NTR is some kind of special genre that need special. In truth - it is not. With your logic: Any content should be optional. Anyone can say - Dudes, i am not here for the breastfeeding, it should be optional.
And i am nor arguing in bad faith here. I belive Hunter is necessary for the story and Dev didn't use him right.

So my advice for you. Make a mode or hire someone to make a mode without Hunter content. Don't think it's so difficult. Don't bother dev with you broken logic.

 

[dartred]

that is the most logical response, i have ever read here.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Some people here didn't like futanari scene and wanted it to be optional.
Me for example didn't like shaving scene with Brenna. Maybe we should do it optional too. My point is that there are many tags here in the game and you can't fan for all fetishes. Some like breastfeeding, some not for example. It seems many thinking that NTR is some kind of special genre that need special. In truth - it is not. With your logic: Any content should be optional. Anyone can say - Dudes, i am not here for the breastfeeding, it should be optional.
And i am nor arguing in bad faith here. I belive Hunter is necessary for the story and Dev didn't use him right.

So my advice for you. Make a mode or hire someone to make a mode without Hunter content. Don't think it's so difficult. Don't bother dev with you broken logic.

I get what you are saying, that you can't make all content optional (though there is an argument to be made for that, but not here, not now.) but I disagree that NTR is not a special case. It is one of, if not thee most polarizing fetish I've seen on these forums. Hell, the evidence can be seen in this very game by it having its own option to turn it off when none of the other fetishes does. (Of which, i'm extremely thankful of the dev.)

Rounding back to my point, seeing Hunter less in the NTR-off potion of the game is a good thing.
The whole point of the story is seeing Sterling filling the Power Vaccum that is left behind by the passing of his Dad.
He's gotten buffer, built his relationships with the women, and been steadily pushing Hunter further and further away. With the revelations about his aunt and grandma, it should give Sterling all the reason he needs to stand the hell up to Hunter and boot him. Ultimately I think we can all agree this is the direction the story is going?

If Hunter cant be gotten rid of yet for the narrative, then if you've NTR-off, you can easily have him as the looming, unseen threat from the shadows instead of showing up to break up the flow of an otherwise amazing time and still keep the same story beats/structure. Right now, him showing up at the ends makes the story feel disjointed. Sterling goes from showing how he's become way more fit and confident in 90% of the past couple updates only to revert to a child for that 10% portion featuring hunter.



I still like the game as is though. Its creative, hilarious, and I cannot wait to explore possible relationships with more of the female cast. I really hope we get another game night with Amber and the family. I would laugh my ass off to see Amber's mom join in.

 

[dartred]

i think Guro or Scat have to be the most extreme fetish. i dont think NTR comes close to those. you have to be a special kind of special to get off on those. again, if you like that, i don't judge (but you will creep me out if guro is your thing).