Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[dalzomo]

Frankly, i'm jealous of ntr scenes.

Isn't that the point of NTR, though? I mean, I'm just here for the ahegao and domination so I can't really identify with those who get invested in the "romance" and feel betrayed when Sterling loses. IDGAF who does it to the girls, but subjugation isn't really Sterling's style and we're also unlikely to get a mmf scene out of him either (willingly, heh heh heh) so of course I'm rooting for Hunter, and Drew once he shows up. Sterling's mff scenes have been good though.

 

[harsha_26]

I completely agree. Look at Big Brother. Once Eric got kicked out, the story devolved into a dumb "let's make porn" scenario. The MC want from "motivation to become the alpha" to "last resort to get laid".

But yeah, the game will probably end when you fuck all the girls. After all, Hunter can't steal what you own, right?

Wait...

I got a feeling this will still go on after we conquered everyone. After all, we still are no step closer to defeating Hunter, even if we claim every woman. I think I said it before, a lot of games fail because the end goal is to bang every woman. After that they are lost to what to do, but here the end goal is something else. Fucking everyone is just a fringe benefit.

You think so? Even after we claim every woman, the story will still go? Fans are divided on this endgame issue.

 

[SuddenReal]

You think so? Even after we claim every woman, the story will still go? Fans are divided on this endgame issue.

Really? I never noticed that. I think you're the only one bringing that up.

But tell me, what do you think the endgame is? Is it banging every woman or get Hunter out? Because those are not the same thing.

 

[yuk69]

this game is among my favorites.
it was perfect "anal sex in BRENNA" very nice.
I expected a lot to "Ophelia in anal sex"

top game, top renders..
I hope it continues.

 

[harsha_26]

Really? I never noticed that. I think you're the only one bringing that up.

But tell me, what do you think the endgame is? Is it banging every woman or get Hunter out? Because those are not the same thing.

Yes, i may bring this up, but look at all other comments after i bring this up, some saying it will be over when hunter gets defeated, some saying it will be over when sterling claims all women. I'm saying the third solution, that is, atleast give me a "large epilogue" of multiple hardcore fucking scenes with family after the final defeat of hunter and other side villains.

 

[Rectory]

Guys guys guys, you have to admit some fans are not into teasing, buildup, vanilla scenes irrespective of whether they are ntr or non-ntr fans.

So, for ntr fans, as it is very easy to write non-building, non-romantic, non-vanilla scenes because villain is bad, the ntr fans who are are not into non-romantic vanilla stuff, they will be happy by those easy sex scenes.

Problem occurs when the fan is not into romance or vanilla but he hates ntr. So, he will be disappointed for sure.

That's why, for this only reason, some optional ntr games have two paths. Romantic or corruption, along with ntr route. So, the non-ntr fans who dont like teasing romance, will play this "corruption" path without ntr & be happy with the end product. I can give you some examples those games, but it will become off-topic to this game thread.

 

[SuddenReal]

Yes, i may bring this up, but look at all other comments after i bring this up, some saying it will be over when hunter gets defeated, some saying it will be over when sterling claims all women. I'm saying the third solution, that is, atleast give me a "large epilogue" of multiple hardcore fucking scenes with family after the final defeat of hunter and other side villains.

I did. Not one said the game will be over when Sterling claims all the women, only that it will be over when Hunter is defeated. If I somehow missed one, please be so kind to direct me to it.

And again, claiming all women won't defeat Hunter. I think on the contrary, it will make his resolve stronger, making for more potential for us. Which means we'll get more hardcore scenes before the endgame has even started.

 

[harsha_26]

I did. Not one said the game will be over when Sterling claims all the women, only that it will be over when Hunter is defeated. If I somehow missed one, please be so kind to direct me to it.

And again, claiming all women won't defeat Hunter. I think on the contrary, it will make his resolve stronger, making for more potential for us. Which means we'll get more hardcore scenes before the endgame has even started.

Your theory is fair enough. But, you think bad ntr scenes will still happen after MC finally builds a consensual harem by claiming all women's love? As hunter is still undefeated at that point? Or the gameplay only give missions to defeat him via non-sexual way at that stage?

Yes, you can still show ntr scenes of hunter or uncle even after MC builds a harem, but don't you think it looks less interesting for players because MC already have sex with women and that will incite much less jealousy compare to earlier stage of ntr where hunter gets to pussy first?

 

[SuddenReal]

Your theory is fair enough. But, you think bad ntr scenes will still happen after MC finally builds a consensual harem by claiming all women's love? As hunter is still undefeated at that point? Or the gameplay only give missions to defeat him via non-sexual way at that stage?

Yes, you can still show ntr scenes of hunter or uncle even after MC builds a harem, but don't you think it looks less interesting for players because MC already have sex with women and that will incite much less jealousy compare to earlier stage of ntr where hunter gets to pussy first?

Allow me to facepalm for a moment...

Okay, let me read that again...

Nope, still facepalming.

Let's rephrase what you said: Will the fact that Hunter steals away a woman that is yours bother you less than if he beats you to the punch while conquering them?

Sterling is not the type of man (and neither am I) of a one-and-done kind. He will not lose interest in a woman just because he had his way with her (otherwise he wouldn't have sex wite Eva anymore). If you think the loss of a POTENTIAL love interest hits harder than an ACTUAL love interest, you are mistaken. It's not a sprint. The goal is not to reach pussy first, it is to keep it. And I'll be damned if I let someone take away what is mine. You don't win Monopoly by having all hotels first, it is by having everything at the end of the game.

And yes, bad NTR scenes will still happen after Sterling builds his consensual harem because Hunter's objective is to steal women away. If they're in a serious relationship makes it all the more sweeter for him. That's why most NTR games feature women who are either married or in an engaged relationship, because there's no challenge in seducing a single woman. That's why I said his resolve will strenghten. That's when it comes really interesting for him.

 

[harsha_26]

Allow me to facepalm for a moment...

Okay, let me read that again...

Nope, still facepalming.

Let's rephrase what you said: Will the fact that Hunter steals away a woman that is yours bother you less than if he beats you to the punch while conquering them?

Sterling is not the type of man (and neither am I) of a one-and-done kind. He will not lose interest in a woman just because he had his way with her (otherwise he wouldn't have sex wite Eva anymore). If you think the loss of a POTENTIAL love interest hits harder than an ACTUAL love interest, you are mistaken. It's not a sprint. The goal is not to reach pussy first, it is to keep it. And I'll be damned if I let someone take away what is mine. You don't win Monopoly by having all hotels first, it is by having everything at the end of the game.

And yes, bad NTR scenes will still happen after Sterling builds his consensual harem because Hunter's objective is to steal women away. If they're in a serious relationship makes it all the more sweeter for him. That's why most NTR games feature women who are either married or in an engaged relationship, because there's no challenge in seducing a single woman. That's why I said his resolve will strenghten. That's when it comes really interesting for him.

But this game is based on building relationships compare to other ntr gamws where they have established relationships from start. So, thats why i'm saying, after working so hard to get all Pussies, if you still have to work hard to keep them with you is not a interesting point to the players who are into this game because of "rewarding" elements that usually comes with teasing, buildup elements. As a fuckfest fan, i may love easy sex and i love if characters have already established relationships because, that way, sex is so easy to get. But, normally vanilla fans aren't much into the established relationships. Thats why you wont see much excitement for eva compare to fans requesting sexual content for the character like "ophelia". If ophelia have tons of sex scenes by now, i'm sure ophelia won't be much popular as she is now. Eva would be so popular if she would get the pussy at last. It's how the vanilla fans's mindset works here.

 

[SuddenReal]

But this game is based on building relationships compare to other ntr gamws where they have established relationships from start. So, thats why i'm saying, after working so hard to get all Pussies, if you still have to work hard to keep them with you is not a interesting point to the players who are into this game because of "rewarding" elements that usually comes with teasing, buildup elements. As a fuckfest fan, i may love easy sex and i love if characters have already established relationships because, that way, sex is so easy to get. But, normally vanilla fans aren't much into the established relationships. Thats why you wont see much excitement for eva compare to fans requesting sexual content for the character like "ophelia". If ophelia have tons of sex scenes by now, i'm sure ophelia won't be much popular as she is now. Eva would be so popular if she would get the pussy at last. It's how the vanilla fans's mindset works here.

That's where you're wrong. In nearly every incest game, the mother is the most popular. Eva isn't part of the family, so isn't part of the fetish. If you don't believe me, there are several posts asking if there is sex already, and when Eva is mentioned, the reply is always "but I'm talking about sex with family members, Eva doesn't count". And if you think people would give up their prize just because they got their reward, you're mistaken. The whole incest shtick is claiming your family for your own, not to use once and then give away to someone else. The reason why most games stop when you reach the "reward" is because that's the end goal and they have nothing interesting to follow it up. But again, that is not the end goal here.

But, now I'm curious. You despise Hunter because he gets the prize first. In these games you like with easy sex and established relationships, are you comfortable if some NPC comes in and swoops your easy sex away from you?

 

[Sinopsiso]

Well, if you are talking about ending i am propably on harsha side.

The game will end with full harem group sex. And propably pregnancies. Lot of pregnancies.

But it won't be before Hunter defeat. Dev is good with pacing. Money problem also would be solved.

That's why most NTR games feature women who are either married or in an engaged relationship, because there's no challenge in seducing a single woman. That's why I said his resolve will strenghten. That's when it comes really interesting for him.

I undestand your logic, but not how it will be possible. MC now is not some weak husband.
I mean... try to write scenario how Hunder seduce Eva NOW. When she is addicted to MC and his situation with Brenna, unless he drugged her mind to the next week.
Thats on dev of course. But now i don't see how Hunter can steal MC's woman from him after they experience his dick. You can say, Hunter's dick still begger. But his looks just can'be compared with MC.
Even sex with Brenna, Hunter pretended to be Sterling.

He will not lose interest in a woman just because he had his way with her (otherwise he wouldn't have sex wite Eva anymore). If you think the loss of a POTENTIAL love interest hits harder than an ACTUAL love interest, you are mistaken. It's not a sprint. The goal is not to reach pussy first, it is to keep it. And I'll be damned if I let someone take away what is mine. You don't win Monopoly by having all hotels first, it is by having everything at the end of the game.

Again you are right. MC won't loose interenst in womens.
We are. And dev too.
Yes, she still have her scene with him. But... are you inerested in them. It's threesome we want. And threesome we get. And soon we will propablt get threesome with Mallory and Aliza. It's not dev fault or anyone. Just porn logic.

However i disagree with that.

Yes, you can still show ntr scenes of hunter or uncle even after MC builds a harem, but don't you think it looks less interesting for players because MC already have sex with women and that will incite much less jealousy compare to earlier stage of ntr where hunter gets to pussy first?

So you are saying that you will be more jealous when Hunter have sex with girl BEFORE MC. But not after? Again imagine that after all this chapters, Eva would have sex with Hunter. What? No jealousy at all. No anger, no shoutinh - what a whore? No? Funny.

 

[SuddenReal]

I undestand your logic, but not how it will be possible. MC now is not some weak husband.
I mean... try to write scenario how Hunder seduce Eva NOW. When she is addicted to MC and his situation with Brenna, unless he drugged her mind to the next week.
Thats on dev of course. But now i don't see how Hunter can steal MC's woman from him after they experience his dick. You can say, Hunter's dick still begger. But his looks just can'be compared with MC.
Even sex with Brenna, Hunter pretended to be Sterling.

Well, look how Hunter seduced Eva the first time. She was horny and ready and Sterling was out of the picture. She was taken by surprise (no pun intended). And that's how Hunter operates. He horns the girls up, makes sure Sterling isn't around to interfere and then strikes before they know what's going on. You're right, Sterling isn't some weak husband, but Hunter is still holding all the cards. That's why he had to go along with the chapter-break event. This isn't some cuck scenario where Sterling is forced to sit in the corner while the girl gets fucked in front of him, but Hunter makes sure Sterling can't interfere because he knows Sterling can kick his ass.

But honestly, I don't want to speculate on how things will turn out. It's still a long way away and a lot can happen in the mean time. All I'm saying is that I'm confident in What? Why? Games to make Hunter even more dangerous and imaginative in ways we haven't seen yet once we get to that point. The end is not yet in sight.

 

[harsha_26]

Well, look how Hunter seduced Eva the first time. She was horny and ready and Sterling was out of the picture. She was taken by surprise (no pun intended). And that's how Hunter operates. He horns the girls up, makes sure Sterling isn't around to interfere and then strikes before they know what's going on. You're right, Sterling isn't some weak husband, but Hunter is still holding all the cards. That's why he had to go along with the chapter-break event. This isn't some cuck scenario where Sterling is forced to sit in the corner while the girl gets fucked in front of him, but Hunter makes sure Sterling can't interfere because he knows Sterling can kick his ass.

But honestly, I don't want to speculate on how things will turn out. It's still a long way away and a lot can happen in the mean time. All I'm saying is that I'm confident in What? Why? Games to make Hunter even more dangerous and imaginative in ways we haven't seen yet once we get to that point. The end is not yet in sight.

The more dangerous he becomes, the more ntr this game will have. This game publicizes itself as a "ntr only for bad endings", but it's exactly doing what the other optional ntr games is doing. Providing the kink scenes that are intrestesting to ntr fans. You wont believe this game also have ntr fans support for those so called "bad ending scenes". So, whenever a vanilla fan tries to explain this game is different to other "optional ntr" games, i laugh on them.

I hope hunter to become less and less dangerous gradually as MC is becoming more and more strong, so that hunter gets blue balled and MC gets hardcore.

 

[harsha_26]

That's where you're wrong. In nearly every incest game, the mother is the most popular. Eva isn't part of the family, so isn't part of the fetish. If you don't believe me, there are several posts asking if there is sex already, and when Eva is mentioned, the reply is always "but I'm talking about sex with family members, Eva doesn't count". And if you think people would give up their prize just because they got their reward, you're mistaken. The whole incest shtick is claiming your family for your own, not to use once and then give away to someone else. The reason why most games stop when you reach the "reward" is because that's the end goal and they have nothing interesting to follow it up. But again, that is not the end goal here.

But, now I'm curious. You despise Hunter because he gets the prize first. In these games you like with easy sex and established relationships, are you comfortable if some NPC comes in and swoops your easy sex away from you?

I dont like it but atleast im happy that im getting the same easy hardcore sex in non-ntr path as villains was getting in ntr path. Rectory explained my issue in a clear way. Please read that comment.

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

The more dangerous he becomes, the more ntr this game will have. This game publicizes itself as a "ntr only for bad endings", but it's exactly doing what the other optional ntr games is doing. Providing the kink scenes that are intrestesting to ntr fans. You wont believe this game also have ntr fans support for those so called "bad ending scenes". So, whenever a vanilla fan tries to explain this game is different to other "optional ntr" games, i laugh on them.

I hope hunter to become less and less dangerous gradually as MC is becoming more and more strong, so that hunter gets blue balled and MC gets hardcore.

This is not an NTR game. You get 1-2 Hunter scenes, and for the most part only 1 of them is even explicit sex. There is no NTR path, and you can't lose the people you care about. You just want to keep complaining, you are part of issue when people say that harem people are trash.

You just keep saying bullshit even the game show you the opposite. How many bj did Hunter get? do you know? cuz I played all his scenes and he only got 1, how many did the mc get? I lose count because he gets one every night since 2 updates ago + Cait sex ed + Ember training + Aunt + Malory. How many time did Hunter had sex? 4~ how many times did the mc had sex? I lose count because Eva(more then 3)+Brenna 1+Malory 2.

Please if you complain, do it about the right stuff, as right now the mc is so far head of the race that at this point the only way for Hunter to catchup is by having an update only for him which won't happened seeing how NTR IS NOT CANNON!

I love NTR, this is not an NTR game. It's far from it, and your are just trying to push something that is just not true.

 

[Badjourasmix]

The more dangerous he becomes, the more ntr this game will have. This game publicizes itself as a "ntr only for bad endings", but it's exactly doing what the other optional ntr games is doing. Providing the kink scenes that are intrestesting to ntr fans. You wont believe this game also have ntr fans support for those so called "bad ending scenes". So, whenever a vanilla fan tries to explain this game is different to other "optional ntr" games, i laugh on them.

I hope hunter to become less and less dangerous gradually as MC is becoming more and more strong, so that hunter gets blue balled and MC gets hardcore.

I personally hate NTR that is why I always play with ntr off, but I think you're making it a bigger deal than it has to be. The point of the game is for you to defeat hunter, that is why when you make a bad choice it's game over and you have to try again. The NTR scenes are more like what if scenarios. It shows you what would happen if you didn't stop hunter.

 

[harsha_26]

This is not an NTR game. You get 1-2 Hunter scenes, and for the most part only 1 of them is even explicit sex. There is no NTR path, and you can't lose the people you care about. You just want to keep complaining, you are part of issue when people say that harem people are trash.

You just keep saying bullshit even the game show you the opposite. How many bj did Hunter get? do you know? cuz I played all his scenes and he only got 1, how many did the mc get? I lose count because he gets one every night since 2 updates ago + Cait sex ed + Ember training + Aunt + Malory. How many time did Hunter had sex? 4~ how many times did the mc had sex? I lose count because Eva(more then 3)+Brenna 1+Malory 2.

Please if you complain, do it about the right stuff, as right now the mc is so far head of the race that at this point the only way for Hunter to catchup is by having an update only for him which won't happened seeing how NTR IS NOT CANNON!

I love NTR, this is not an NTR game. It's far from it, and your are just trying to push something that is just not true.

When i said this game is ntr game? I said it is optional ntr game. There is no path but there are some scenes either way like some in other optional ntr games. And i still dont consider brenna anal as a wholesome sex. I only consider real sex when MC gets brenna's pussy, which hunter got. Non-canon or canon, still some ntr fans are happy by that.

 

[Sinopsiso]

Non-canon or canon, still some ntr fans are happy by that.

And we can't allow that. We are at war and can't both be happy with one game.

I know that's not what you said, but still. Is it so hard to accept things that you don't like and like things you like? I already wrote huge text that i don't like Brenna shaving, some don't like anal, some breastfeeding, some futanari. Yes, its normal actually. You can't like everything. But... why we talking about this? There is nothing to talk. You can't play this game? Ok, i get that. Too bad but at least you didn't write stupid review (i hope).
It's a matter of taste. Its useless to write reasons, because there is no reason for that actually. You just don't like it. End of discussion.

 

[Hordragg]

Wow, the last pages took way too much time to skim through…

You know what's the real shocker here: that there's still work being done on this title despite there being a far superior one in the dev's pipeline. Why yes, I'm talking about Unfinished Monkey Business, of course. I mean, the dev's wasting their brilliant humor (so brilliant) on this fantastic ride (so fantastic) with the most ingeniously infuriating antagonist to date (oh, so infuriating) not even bothering to show any sign of commitment to their upcoming star project. This, dear fellow perverts, is an outrage! If I had a mic I would drop it this instant. This instant, you hear me… probably not, me not having a mic and all… but yes, an outrage!