Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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DA22

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Heavy Sleeper said:
yeah, it's porn first a comedy second and maybe story third. Not saying story is not important, but clearly it's not THE focus of the game.

Too many people want to read into porn games too much and ending up losing what makes them "porn" and turn it to just straight drama(and mostly poorly written one at that for most games). If you want a drama focus or character focus "adult novel" don't go into games with their main hook to the story revolving around sex. There are plenty of "story first" games of this site, and as far as I know harem(focused game) is unlikely to ever really fit that criteria.
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Sure, if it was only about the porn which actually goes pretty slowly in this game with main girls, then why has Ophelia not jumped Sterlings dick yet? She has been longing to since episode 3 and Brenna as well, but no that logically has to be slow for whatever story reason and how they were set up as characters. :p (edit: let us be honest unless Sterling pulls a Hunter out of desperation in episode 30 or aliens kidnap Ophelia and Brenna and during an anal probe take away the idea incest is bad from them, it will be no more likely whether either of both bed him in next update as that they would step over what holds them back in another 10 or 15 updates and bed him then. It is now just about when dev wants to give them up and not what more Sterling can do or anyone else to make them want him more. :p)

Well that is fine, but then you can not tell that the chars in other parts should not conform to how they were set up. Now it makes sense in a way that Lydia how she has been setup might give in to those two old man in What if without changing her setup, Sterling crawling away in a corner though and crying does not. Walking away angrily at her would though if he decides she in the end has a right to make that choice and lets her. Now if the premise was what if Sterling was a voyeur to the core and he would encourage Lydia it would make sense he would stay, but then he would be fapping and maybe taking her after and not just a blowjob either after he seen the other two get it all, not crying. :p

Same it would not make sense that Drew could get Brenna and Ophelia into bed in two episodes willingly since they would suddenly have no incest taboo when comes to him even if he is family as well and he does not even have the advantage of MC that has been working on them and has an affectionate relation with them and both want him by now.

You can not have it both ways, where when it is NTR chars act against their set up without good reason and when it comes rest of game they suddenly are someone else and that setup does suddenly matter cause you love to see a certain scene that is not with MC or he is a willing cuck. If want it to be complete fuckfest fine, but then it should be whole game also when comes to Sterling and just forget about any story or justification at all for going slow on other parts. :)
 
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DA22 said:
Sure, if it was only about the porn which actually goes pretty slowly in this game with main girls, then why has Ophelia not jumped Sterlings dick yet? She has been longing to since episode 3 and Brenna as well, but no that logically has to be slow for whatever story reason and how they were set up as characters. :p

Well that is fine, but then you can not tell that the chars in other parts should not conform to how they were set up. Now it makes sense in a way that Lydia how she has been setup might give in to those two old man in What if without changing her setup, Sterling crawling away in a corner though crying does not. Same it would not make sense that Drew could get Brenna and Ophelia into bed in two episodes willingly since they would suddenly have no incest taboo when comes to him even if he is family as well and he does not even have the advantage of MC that has been working on them and has an affectionate relation with them and both want him by now.

You can not have it both ways, where when it is NTR chars act against their set up without good reason and when it comes rest of game they suddenly are someone else. If want it to be complete fuckfest fine, but then it should be whole game and just forget about any story or justification at all for going slow on other parts.
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but you are forgetting that the NTR isn't part of the story in the first place, Hunter always lose in the story. So all the "what ifs" are just that "what if Brenna wanted to be with hunter?" "what if Lucia gave into her sexual fantasy" "what if disco hunter was real" none of these are cannon. If you count "what if" was cannon, you might as well count every fanfic every made into a cannon of every story because that's what this is.

It's suggested by the fans and voted on by the fans and the dev has minimal input based on what the fan wrote!

I mean with the current setup, if a vanilla fan wanted to write a scenario they could write one where Sterling gets a bj from the aunt(been a while since I played) in front of the stalker and made fun of him together when the Teddy was revealed but the fact is that most of the people want NTR and seen as the NTR has more sex scenes then more "what if?" for those is possible to play with(and wanted by the large amount of votes).

They act "against their nature" in one "what if" scene to please a fan, that's it. You can't see it unless you download the "what if" as it's not part of the main file it's a separate download, it might as well be a different game.
 
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but you are forgetting that the NTR isn't part of the story in the first place, Hunter always lose in the story. So all the "what ifs" are just that "what if Brenna wanted to be with hunter?" "what if Lucia gave into her sexual fantasy" "what if disco hunter was real" none of these are cannon. If you count "what if" was cannon, you might as well count every fanfic every made into a cannon of every story because that's what this is.

It's suggested by the fans and voted on by the fans and the dev has minimal input based on what the fan wrote!

I mean with the current setup, if a vanilla fan wanted to write a scenario they could write one where Sterling gets a bj from the aunt(been a while since I played) in front of the stalker and made fun of him together when the Teddy was revealed but the fact is that most of the people want NTR and seen as the NTR has more sex scenes then more "what if?" for those is possible to play with(and wanted by the large amount of votes).

They act "against their nature" in one "what if" scene to please a fan, that's it. You can't see it unless you download the "what if" as it's not part of the main file it's a separate download, it might as well be a different game.
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That is the thing, they are the chars of the game and done by the dev of the game, so unless the setup from the what if changes that nature, they are the still the chars of that game as setup there who just make a different decision in the what if. Not completely different chars and be honest you do not want them to be very different, you want those chars fucked by Hunter or the old men Also see my edit where I give you a more fitting setup. :p

So yes you can do all kind of fun things with what if, but you will also have to change their setup in the what if clearly apart from that in game if want a crying Sterling that watches powerlessly while two old men he can easily take on will fuck his cousin at her will. :p Make him a shota sterling for example that would not be able to take them on.

Also with the what ifs being in the thread of the game they are clearly related, even if just stand alone and until now only continuations of certain scenes in game if it had gone a bit different, so they are clearly the game chars as were setup. Not real what if's, but something that could have just as easily been directly in the game if dev had chosen so.

No worries about me, I will stay away from the what if's even the vanilla ones, since I tend to dislike them anyway. Now maybe if someone came with a really fun and out there scenario where they turn the nature and theme of game completely on its head I might have a look, but I did not see any of those proposed yet.

Edit: Hell I know that will surprise some, but considering fact that Hunter uses drugs and such and the ladies do not willingly give in as brainless morons I would not even mind if the bad endings in game would contain full on sex, just as long as we have as many and just as full on scenes on the Non NTR path with same girls as well and they do not change how the main characters are set up, but hey that would not make sense story wise right. :p :ROFLMAO: :devilish:
 
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I love that people still complain about NTR.

There are games on this site where you fuck children and yet people can't shut up about a woman being unfaithful.


Heavy Sleeper said:
yeah, it's porn first a comedy second and maybe story third. Not saying story is not important, but clearly it's not THE focus of the game.
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I'd put comedy first, then porn, and story isn't on the list because the game is built as a satire of mindless fuck 'em all games. There are narrative elements to keep the game moving and on the rails, but it couldn't be a satire if I implemented anything more. I'll never understand people thinking this was my attempt at a story and seriously critiquing it. It's like if I made a parody of Bazooka Joe comics and people kept giving me one star for story.
 
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lipe2410 said:
OPTIONAL NTR, indeed. Something that we can turn off or easily avoid play if we don't want it (which is what i do like someone who don't like ntr but like cockblock that fucker Hunter. Your game is perfect for me because of this. Thank you)
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Agreed, its a nice happy inbetween so that everyone can be happy. Its quite literally flip a switch and chose your fetish, nice.
 
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DA22 said:
See that is one of the problems when combine NTR and romance, to make it nice strong NTR you need to change the nature of characters to make it work and that does bleed through to rest of story/game that is not NTR based or just destroys the females for any role even closely resembling a romantic interest.
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why can't a romantic interest like a good nasty fucking?
 
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I love that people still complain about NTR.

There are games on this site where you fuck children and yet people can't shut up about a woman being unfaithful.





I'd put comedy first, then porn, and story isn't on the list because the game is built as a satire of mindless fuck 'em all games. There are narrative elements to keep the game moving and on the rails, but it couldn't be a satire if I implemented anything more. I'll never understand people thinking this was my attempt at a story and seriously critiquing it. It's like if I made a parody of Bazooka Joe comics and people kept giving me one star for story.
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Especially that it's avoidable, I guess you will never please all people.
 
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Tbh I honestly don’t have any problem with NTR, I honesty like the one where Catherine Reaction to seeing hunter and Ophelia, also does anyone have pics of all NTR scenes
 
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Neat concept for a story segment. Because I like when devs use the wet/glistening look for characters when they're sweating, which I think this game has done in some of the sex scenes?
 
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