There are twats on both sides, I’m really glad the way the ntr is done it’s a perfect balance if you don’t think so then your just as unreasonable as the “Cucks” you complain about. We need to learn to live together in this thread.
The funny thing is that if you just ask if the NTR is or will be avoidable in a game that just has the tag without further explanations, you'll automatically be an asshole who's trying to make every game boring (because the NTR tropes aren't the same in every game...) and should go play WVM...
No, the game started this way, it never changed focus. I've been following it since day one, and you can see it from the comments in the very first page, mentioning the non-canonical endings. The Hunter scenes are bad endings, so why should the dev spend more time there, meaning less time in the actual content? And my comment wasn't meant as an answer to you, well not just you, but people asking from the dev to have Hunter fuck the girls in the bad endings. So far the MC hasn't bang any of the main girls. How logical do you think it is, if Hunter gets to do it before him in a game that uses NTR just a bad ending trope? Isn't that trying to change the focus of the game?
You're voicing a desire, not an opinion. A desire, that goes against the core system of the game, which has been explained gazillion times over the pages, and even highlighted in the OP. You're not the first one to do this, and like it or not, the patience of people aren't endless, and it gets annoying as fuck to see the same shit over and over again.
You're in the minority with that notion from the three letter side. Also don't try to twist what I posted please, because I never said anything about being unhappy with the balance, I am unhappy with those asshats who can't get into their fucking heads what's what, and still try to this little "game of theirs". We can live together in this thread, if they are finally accept the situation as well and stop being pushy.There are twats on both sides, I’m really glad the way the ntr is done it’s a perfect balance if you don’t think so then your just as unreasonable as the “Cucks” you complain about. We need to learn to live together in this thread.
I've been following it too, but please ask yourself this: How can NTR not be integral to the game when Hunter literally sits you down at the kitchen table and says he's going to fuck all the women and there's nothing you can do about it. This was the first version of the game. 0.1. Bad endings are a part of what seperates Power Vacuum from every other harem ren'py game, so I don't see the issue on keeping them as long as the Eva scene in 0.2. The logic of Hunter banging the girls first is simple: Its A) "non-canonical" so it doesn't matter since it technically doesn't happen, B) Suspense, since there are no good games where you get to fuck the girls quickly and payoff is a big part of it, C) To illustrate to the player in an over-the-top way how much of a threat Hunter is. He's literally a walking corpse full of IRL cheat codes because he fucked around for decades.
A desire isn't a manifestation of my point of view? Against the core system of the game? What, you mean Hunter trying to NTR you, which was in 0.1 and every update since? Why are you so angry my guy? Again, what's the issue here? I just wanted to discuss the things I liked about the game and see who else felt the same. Aren't forums for voicing opinio- I mean "desires"? Are you scared cucks will swoop down and feed your waifu to a bull? You don't like people being "pushy" for content you don't like, but it's okay to get buttblasted with strangers over some internet arguments you had with someone else? Did I start shit with you in a former life? I am not the NTR boogeyman, so chill the fuck out. For the record, I'm not here to discuss NTR itself, I'm discussing the direction of the game.You're voicing a desire, not an opinion. A desire, that goes against the core system of the game, which has been explained gazillion times over the pages, and even highlighted in the OP. You're not the first one to do this, and like it or not, the patience of people aren't endless, and it gets annoying as fuck to see the same shit over and over again.
You're in the minority with that notion from the three letter side. Also don't try to twist what I posted please, because I never said anything about being unhappy with the balance, I am unhappy with those asshats who can't get into their fucking heads what's what, and still try to this little "game of theirs". We can live together in this thread, if they are finally accept the situation as well and stop being pushy.
He never has any scenes if you pick the right options, true, but the point is he is trying to NTR you whether he fails or not. You do seem him interact with the girls at certain points. If he fails, I absolutely agree he is comic relief, but if he doesn't then that's avoidable NTR that you didn't avoid. Even if the game isn't NTR focused in terms of scenes - There is no tension or reason for MC to behave the way he does without the threat of Hunter. The game would make no sense if the establishing scene with Hunter in 0.1 never happened.
Of course Hunter was there from the first version. Non-canonical doesn't mean that Hunter isn't going to try to fuck them. Non-canonical means "not normal" because if he succeds it's game over! You lose! If Hunter bangs the main girls first (I would even argue at all) it wouldn't be a way to show how much of the threat he is, it would just be the dev showing the middle finger to most of the fans, since (once again) this is not a NTR-focused game, so the audience that the game is mainly directed to, won't enjoy it, but will try to avoid it! Even if we ignore that, why on earth should there be more non-canonical content in the game than the actual content? How does this make any sense? Also we are not talking about a big team that's pushing one update after the other. You are asking for the dev to either spend less time on the actual content or make the waiting time between the updates even longer, just to satisfy a fetish, that is just being used as a bad ending trope! Do you find this reasonable? How about we let the dev do what he's already been doing?
You misunderstand: the non-canon bad endings that you immediately reverse are part of how Hunter is established as a threat, I'm not advocating you make Hunter NTR scenes canon. I'm talking about how the point is made to the player. It's important that they are there, not that their undertaking is considered canonical as the plot moves forward.
The game isn't not NTR-focused, so the crowd expected to play it is not the NTR crowd. Of course some people who like NTR will play it, but it's not focused on their fetish, so it's not focused on them. Can we agree on that?
I say it's not actual content as watching Mario drowning in a water level of any Super Mario game isn't actual content. I lost, I want to move on. You wouldn't go and ask Miyamoto for longer drowning scenes, right? What's already there should be enough for the dev to make his point.
I'm not dismissing anything. More time spent on something, means less time spent on something else, or more time spent altogether. It's as simple as that and it has nothing to do with me disliking NTR. I don't have any problems with the way the dev is doing so far.
The disclaimer also says "The NTR tag is there to let you know that this game features NTR in the noncanonical bad endings."
I'll agree NTR shouldn't be the bulk of the content based on the disclaimer, sure. Just because someone likes NTR doesn't mean they don't like harem or vanilla just as much or more. You're generalizing way too much because of how you feel about the fetish. The "NTR crowd" isn't some monolithic hivemind, despite what you've read. Try to remember the game started as much of an NTR game as a harem game and had NTR scenes however basic in 0.1. You said yourself there's still no sex for Sterling with the overwhelming majority of the cast. But there's NTR. It's not an accident.
False equivalence - this is a fucking porn game, not Mario. If you've spent any amount of time on F95 or any other site for porn games, eastern or western, game-over sex is rampant. It's a staple for lots of japanese RPGMaker games, for example. You can call it bad design, but this isn't a platformer, it's a Ren'Py game where you read and make choices. If Miyamoto extended drowning scenes and gave you a second window to view Bowser dicking Peach full-nelson style, you bet your ass I'd ask for longer drowning scenes. You're grasping at this point.
Okay, why not one less of the multiple scenes that you like for one full NTR sex scene? Just one. Give me a lil foreplay, fucking and a creampie/cumshot. That's it. One per update. You still get many times that many scenes on the stuff that you like.
The "game over" mechanism is a big part of what makes Power Vacuum unique. It's funny and allows people to access NTR and what-if scenarios. It's nothing like Mario because the design of the game is totally different. We don't need to watch Mario turn into a lifeless blue husk because nobody gets anything out of it, they want to get back to playing the game. Ren'Py porn games are all about the writing, renders, animations and story. Lots of people enjoy this game because they enjoy watching Hunter win, and there's different reasons for different people. Stop trying to make it sound like the game over sequences don't matter, because they absolutely do and have always been there.
Ok, you are trying to turn this into a NTR vs Non-NTR thing when it's not, so I won't bother anymore. The only thing I'm gonna say is that my problem isn't with the NTR scenes as bad endings in the game, but with people trying to turn the dev's focus there, because no matter how hard you try to make it look like a NTR game, it's not. You know, the whole "non-canonical" point. I hope the dev will just keep doing what he's doing, because it's obviously working, and I'm gonna leave it there.
kinda wrong, we aren't trying to turn it into a full NTR game. like i've said, i just want a full NTR sex scene with the works, but i'm ok with it in a bad end. i dont mind if no sex scene with hunter is canon. hell, for canon hunter, i just wished he was a threat. he is suppose to serve as a reminded that he can take your women, but it feels like he's a joke and you have nothing to worry about.
Read what Sterling says in the game. He is conflicted about his feelings but the reason he is spurred on is Hunter. If Hunter didn't start some shit then Sterling might not be in the position of taking advantage of his family. He doesn't NEED a reason but the dev wrote one because he wanted it to make sense.
It's not NTR vs Non-NTR, but you won't accept the fact the game relies on it. You don't like NTR so you're just ignoring everything that's said. The dev focused on them before, can't you fucking read? I'm not asking for some drastic change, I'm asking for more of what already exists. I'm convinced you never saw Eva and Hunter's sex scene, so all I'll say is go back to the choice where you can stay with her or look for Brenna and choose to go looking for Brenna. Watch the scene. That's as NTR as it gets. Pure NTR. She ahegaos on his dick. Tell me it's not NTR. Tell me the first sex scene in this porn game isn't NTR. Just try.
I suppose people who don't like NTR are concerned the game will have unavoidable NTR or they will lose content that they like if there's more focus on it. The people who like NTR are concerned we won't get anymore full scenes which spoils the game a bit for us.
