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H2R

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He can do what the developer of AWAM does(no I'm not referring to the worthless updates spread over a span of 30 years), make a "Shell game" which complies with all the Patreon T&Cs and email the download link of the actual game.
AWAM?
 

000000

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its better to make an account in substar then if the income is equal to the patreon or maybe he can just have the two of it just to increase his income its like 2 birds in 1 stone
 
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Stil996

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I've seen a lot of people say for him to move, but in all honestly, how many people here are subbed right now AND will move over to subscribestar if he made the move? That's his biggest concern, that he'll lose a lot of income. It's easy to tell him to move, we just have to wait for the game, but he's the one taking a financial hit.

I for one will make the move if he does. It would also allow him to use some of the darker ideas he said he couldn't use, using patreon.
is there anything stopping him from having a Subscribestar aswell as Patreon? that way if Patreon cuts him it won't be a mad scramble to set something else up.
 

Graag

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I've seen a lot of people say for him to move, but in all honestly, how many people here are subbed right now AND will move over to subscribestar if he made the move? That's his biggest concern, that he'll lose a lot of income. It's easy to tell him to move, we just have to wait for the game, but he's the one taking a financial hit.

I for one will make the move if he does. It would also allow him to use some of the darker ideas he said he couldn't use, using patreon.
Bottom line: how much is your freedom worth in cold hard cash?

Also. keep in mind that Patreon will only do this more and more coming years. It will keep abusing it's power and keep pressuring. Why give them that power? Move away from them and something else, something better will eventually fill that POWER VACUUM (sorry too easy)
 

ScareKing

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Who would have thought the best way to stop Hunter methods is patreon... I hope It doesn't change the dialogues too much, it will be weird without the incest dirty talk, especially in this update with Ophelia
Maybe hes going to make a version following patreon rules and send the "real" version on email, i wonder how much would change if dev gos to Subscribestar.
 

DD69-1

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The NTR haters is just... I mean in other forums with games without NTR, people who suggested NTR are told to "get lost and go to a NTR game"... But in a game with NTR, the NTR Haters will do what they can to well, stop its progress and all. I know, that not all of the "anti ntr" are that extreme... But still

I mean, do they go screaming "NTR" when their idol is dating someone else or something...?
it was flagged because of Hunter's methods of how he traps/seduces girls... blackmail, rape, drugs goes against patreon TOS ... nothing to do with NTR.. hunter can still fuck FMCs normally without using the above mentioned methods, and the game wouldn't be flagged, it's that simple... don't start debate on NTR vs Non NTR, when it's clearly not that
 

storm1051787

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it was flagged because of Hunter's methods of how he traps/seduces girls... blackmail, rape, drugs goes against patreon TOS ... nothing to do with NTR.. hunter can still fuck FMCs normally without using the above mentioned methods, and the game wouldn't be flagged, it's that simple... don't start debate on NTR vs Non NTR, when it's clearly not that
It's pretty clearly that. It was especially the what ifs that got patreons attention in the first game which lead them to the main game. Some idiot thought they'd stop making ntr content if it got reported
 
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damnmalic

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I didn't think your spelling, grammar, and punctuation could get any worse. We'll never know though, once this gets deleted.
English isn't my native so idc about spelling or grammar im just glad my point got across and sad at this wasted potential creator has real talent for renders etc but its wasted on this story
 

storm1051787

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English isn't my native so idc about spelling or grammar im just glad my point got across and sad at this wasted potential creator has real talent for renders etc but its wasted on this story
What story. The game is a comedy. He's progressing more and more with each character every chapter but it's not like there is a clear goal in mind other than cockblocking hunter
 

damnmalic

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What story. The game is a comedy. He's progressing more and more with each character every chapter but it's not like there is a clear goal in mind other than cockblocking hunter
What kind of comedy focuses on stopping people from raping your loved ones because now with the newest arrival its probably going to get worst
 

storm1051787

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What kind of comedy focuses on stopping people from raping your loved ones because now with the newest arrival its probably going to get worst
The ones where the villain is an absolute joke whose plans blow up in his face all the time. Hunter is basically wile e coyote. I've said it before but as far as ntr villains go on this site hunter isnt a threat at all
 

ScareKing

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it was flagged because of Hunter's methods of how he traps/seduces girls... blackmail, rape, drugs goes against patreon TOS ... nothing to do with NTR.. hunter can still fuck FMCs normally without using the above mentioned methods, and the game wouldn't be flagged, it's that simple... don't start debate on NTR vs Non NTR, when it's clearly not that
Theres a bunch of games doing the same thing and nothing happens to then, if this game didn't get report, probably we would be talking about what happen in ch 10, and the reason it was report was NTR What If, it was flagged because of patreon tos but NTR report bring they attention.
 
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Bear2093

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why not keep patreon but also get subscribestar, which could be a home for the what ifs / the darker ideas he has.
Or he gets subscribestar, sets a goal for how many people need to move over to that in order for it to be a viable option. If not enough people, stick to patreon.
 

dartred

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anyone know how long the delay wil be ?
No because it's up to Patreon on how long they take to greenlight what WWG sends them. They can take a few days or they could take a month or 2 or 4 (yeah, it took 4 months since the last time they replied to WWG).

WWG hopes the approve quickly so he can release as soon as june 7th, but it's not in his hands.
 

too tired

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This is a fucked up situation :/
I didn't quite understood one thing tho, will all the events envolving Hunters methods be changed in the next version to please Patreon TOS or is the dev gonna do like 2 versions of the game? (Censored and uncensored or smth)
 
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I've seen a lot of people say for him to move, but in all honestly, how many people here are subbed right now AND will move over to subscribestar if he made the move? That's his biggest concern, that he'll lose a lot of income. It's easy to tell him to move, we just have to wait for the game, but he's the one taking a financial hit.

I for one will make the move if he does. It would also allow him to use some of the darker ideas he said he couldn't use, using patreon.
Yeah, I totally hear you. I only subscribe to the higher tier periodically. (A practice I frequently do with other vn creators.) For me, it doesn't matter whether I give WWG money through patreon or subscriber star. But I don't think a total shut down of his patreon site is a good move. Too many people would either not bother or be unaware of the change.

The best idea I've heard so far is two simultanious versions of the game. The censored on patreon and the uncensored/what-ifs on subscriberstar. A problem with which I've heard though is that he can be held accountable for his off-patreon content too. (Not sure if a rumor or not.)
 
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