dartred

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Well spoiler alert. "noncanon" per usual 10 steps ahead of normal content
Don't listen to this guy. There is a shit ton more vanilla content then NTR. If you play the game right now, Hunter only has 1 sex scene with a woman Sterling doesn't. Unless you count anal, then it's tied.

in terms of overall Vanilla to NTR, Vanilla is crazy ahead. You know how it is though, when there's content you don't like, the anthill is called a mountain.
 

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Don't listen to this guy. There is a shit ton more vanilla content then NTR. If you play the game right now, Hunter only has 1 sex scene with a woman Sterling doesn't. Unless you count anal, then it's tied.

in terms of overall Vanilla to NTR, Vanilla is crazy ahead. You know how it is though, when there's content you don't like, the anthill is called a mountain.
I didn't say there was more I said it was ahead, it has always been many steps ahead. It having vaginal with Opehilia before the mc certainly counts as being ahead.
 
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Not after chapter 10 Sterling vaulted several steps.
Well it took the entire production to catch up, without adding new characters every update it was a matter of time til he did. Doesn't take away from my point the levels at which the "ermehgerdtotallynotcanonstopcomplaing" and the normal path have always been very disparate until recently
 

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It's not even tied. Sterling actually is up 4 over Hunter ( 3 if you don't count anal vs vag ). Sterling has had the redhead he dressed as a clown to revenge fuck for Mallory (forget her name), Mallory herself, Rebecca and Tiff. At least i know 3 of those for sure. Forget if Hunter got to Mallory.
 

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It's not even tied. Sterling actually is up 4 over Hunter ( 3 if you don't count anal vs vag ). Sterling has had the redhead he dressed as a clown to revenge fuck for Mallory (forget her name), Mallory herself, Rebecca and Tiff. At least i know 3 of those for sure. Forget if Hunter got to Mallory.
But hunter always got there first
 

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It's not even tied. Sterling actually is up 4 over Hunter ( 3 if you don't count anal vs vag ). Sterling has had the redhead he dressed as a clown to revenge fuck for Mallory (forget her name), Mallory herself, Rebecca and Tiff. At least i know 3 of those for sure. Forget if Hunter got to Mallory.
Hunter fucks Mallory if you choose "wrong" when MC fucks her, i dont why some people insist in say this game is a NTR game with focus on NTR, i mean, propably theres like almost 100 scenes and maybe 10% are NTR and you can play the game without even know about it lol.
 

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Hunter fucks Mallory if you choose "wrong" when MC fucks her, i dont why some people insist in say this game is a NTR game with focus on NTR, i mean, propably theres like almost 100 scenes and maybe 10% are NTR and you can play the game without even know about it lol.
Probably has to do with what ifs and that giant gap between main game updates focusing on them that happened there for a while. I know it affected a lot of peoples view of the game and some reviews, mine included.

I'll probably end up amending my review because this update delivered on a lot of fronts, drew content is a lot more palatable and as a villain she fits the game a lot better and it's a whole lot less gay than seeing hunter or any other man. Not that there is anything wrong with gay ofc.

Had she been the villian from the start it could have made the whole thing way less controversial and maybe even more fun, the way she's handled it may have even been a healthy competition that potentially ended with sterling and drew hooking up and/or fully transitioning to fit into his harem.
 
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Regarding the times Hunter gets a girl "first" (in non-canon NTR obviously), I think these scenes have more impact precisely because Hunter is first. It sort of "ruins" the girls for Sterling. That's the point.

Come to think of it, has Hunter had any NTR scenes with girls after they had sex with Sterling? Maybe just the one orgy aftermath scene? :unsure:
 

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Regarding the times Hunter gets a girl "first" (in non-canon NTR obviously), I think these scenes have more impact precisely because Hunter is first. It sort of "ruins" the girls for Sterling. That's the point.

Come to think of it, has Hunter had any NTR scenes with girls after they had sex with Sterling? Maybe just the one orgy aftermath scene? :unsure:
In terms of full penetration Sterling gets Cath in chapter 8 where as Hunter gets her in chapter 9
 
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Sterling has fucked Cath, Tiff, Amber and if we are counting convinced to have sex first, even Ophelia. Him having anal with Ophelia happens way before Hunters bad end in the same chapter. So no, Hunter is not always first. Not to mention the amount of things Sterlings does with each girl. Hunters is pretty "vanilla" when it comes to fetishes. He usually kisses then fucks. eats out then fucks. maybe sometimes kisses and eats out, then fucks. His scenes are pretty quick to finish.

So there is no way you can argue that Hunter has it good. He's the one getting the scraps, because this isn't an NTR game. That's also what makes his scenes so good. They are so few that every time you see them, they are special in their own way.
 

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Probably has to do with what ifs and that giant gap between main game updates focusing on them that happened there for a while. I know it affected a lot of peoples view of the game and some reviews, mine included.

I'll probably end up amending my review because this update delivered on a lot of fronts, drew content is a lot more palatable and as a villain she fits the game a lot better and it's a whole lot less gay than seeing hunter or any other man. Not that there is anything wrong with gay ofc.

Had she been the villian from the start it could have made the whole thing way less controversial and maybe even more fun, the way she's handled it may have even been a healthy competition that potentially ended with sterling and drew hooking up and/or fully transitioning to fit into his harem.
How exactly see some old man fucking a bunch of girls is gay? I know alot of people dont like NTR because of humiliation and shits like that, i think this is the first time i read someone saying its a gay thing lol, and as much as i would love to see more Drew scenes with girls, even she being fuck by MC, i dont see how this is less controversial, you can read alot of people who likes to see NTR but hate futa/shemale, i believe dartred is one of them, or maybe hes just not a fan but futa its prety controversial by itself, so NTR with futa could become a huge problem to Dev.
 

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How exactly see some old man fucking a bunch of girls is gay? I know alot of people dont like NTR because of humiliation and shits like that, i think this is the first time i read someone saying its a gay thing lol, and as much as i would love to see more Drew scenes with girls, even she being fuck by MC, i dont see how this is less controversial, you can read alot of people who likes to see NTR but hate futa/shemale, i believe dartred is one of them, or maybe hes just not a fan but futa its prety controversial by itself, so NTR with futa could become a huge problem to Dev.
Well, I don't think Dartred has any issue with futa, given that his own game has a futa for the primary antagonist. I, of course, could always be wrong though. But I definitely agree with you: liking NTR ≠ liking futa content, and the same in reverse. Anyone who has ever watched porn on a website where at least one of the participants is the same sex as the viewer would automatically be gay or lesbian if enjoying the porn amounted to that. The fact that you enjoy a scene that includes someone of the same sex doesn't even remotely mean you're homosexual.

I understand that some people are solidly against NTR, some people (like me) are neutral on it, and some people love it. However, I don't think it should affect your enjoyment of this game. If you like it, there's a little in the canon story (well, bad endings aren't technically canon, but YKWIM) and then the What Ifs. Should you not like it, you can just skip the What Ifs and avoid it in the main story. I obviously am not trying to minimize anyone feeling a certain way about it, but that's just how I personally look at it.
 
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How exactly see some old man fucking a bunch of girls is gay? I know alot of people dont like NTR because of humiliation and shits like that, i think this is the first time i read someone saying its a gay thing lol, and as much as i would love to see more Drew scenes with girls, even she being fuck by MC, i dont see how this is less controversial, you can read alot of people who likes to see NTR but hate futa/shemale, i believe dartred is one of them, or maybe hes just not a fan but futa its prety controversial by itself, so NTR with futa could become a huge problem to Dev.
it's most certainly controversial but it isn't reviled and despised nearly the same way ntr is. From my time on the site the reaction ntr gets is it almost in all cases ruins the game, futa doesnt have that same perception. Sure it can be a turn off but not nearly the same visceral reaction ntr has that makes it almost binary in it's reception. Hell Its pretty much the only tag on the site that needs disclaimers. Could be wrong, just an observation.

As far as being it being gay/borderline gay, the fantasy is being dominated/taken from/humilitated by another man. Seems sus to me is all. Could futa be described similarly? Sure but thats assuming the only thing that makes a man a man is a penis and a woman a woman is a vagina and is a whole other can of worms. I just think it would be more palatable to people who dislike ntr because drew is for all intents and purposes a woman, outside of having a penis obv.

As a side note, a lot of the negative reviews don't even talk about the ntr so there are certainly a lot of things controversial about the game besides that aspect.
 
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Sterling has fucked Cath, Tiff, Amber and if we are counting convinced to have sex first, even Ophelia.
It depends if we count the coma ending from chapter 7 where Brenna, Catherine, and Ophelia were all pregnant. Brenna & Catherine, presumably by Hunter. Ophelia, definitely by Hunter. I'm almost willing to say this scene doesn't "count" because it didn't depict sexual acts and was more comedic than typical NTR.

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