RabidSloth

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I think the futa/trans subject is a tough one
A lot of people on this site are into it whereas a lot of others arent. Kind of like with NTR.

Maybe it would be a good idea to install a new path system, depending on the devs plan to include Drew or not in the Harem
Keeping the Dick or get it removed would be an interesting option, although that would mean double work for the dev on Drew
I'm into trans, but prefer the "full package" kind... so my preference is off the table at this point :LOL:
 

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Maybe it would be a good idea to install a new path system, depending on the devs plan to include Drew or not in the Harem
Drew will NOT be in the harem. Drew is NOT an ally. Drew is planning to fuck every female and share them with Hunter. That's why he's there. Drew will never be the good guy. Everyone who thinks he is, doesn't get that's how he gets his women. Drew looks all innocent, right until he slips his big dick in. It's even said in-game that he's not a bottom, so why do you think he could ever be part of the harem?
 
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Drew will NOT be in the harem. Drew is NOT an ally. Drew is planning to fuck every female and share them with Hunter. That's why he's there. Drew will never be the good guy. Everyone who thinks he is, doesn't get that's how he gets his women. Drew looks all innocent, right until he slips his big dick in. It's even said in-game that he's not a bottom, so why do you think he could ever be part of the harem?
Given how Drew seems to have been doing Sterling's dad for years, it is safe to expect Sterling's ass is Drew's new target. Now will she try to take Sterling's girls for herself or just leave them to Hunter thats another story.
 
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Drew will NOT be in the harem. Drew is NOT an ally. Drew is planning to fuck every female and share them with Hunter. That's why he's there. Drew will never be the good guy. Everyone who thinks he is, doesn't get that's how he gets his women. Drew looks all innocent, right until he slips his big dick in. It's even said in-game that he's not a bottom, so why do you think he could ever be part of the harem?
I mean maybe that´s the point. The fact that either of you wants all the asses available so you shall compete in epic battle until victory is claimed by right of anal sex.

Or maybe he adds the route because he wants to add futa.
 

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If we see it by December I'd be pleasantly surprised. However considering the first set of teasers hasn't hit yet i wouldn't hold my breath. Realistically Feb or March 2023
 

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I mean maybe that´s the point. The fact that either of you wants all the asses available so you shall compete in epic battle until victory is claimed by right of anal sex.

Or maybe he adds the route because he wants to add futa.
The truth, is no one know whats going to happen with Drew, she could be a enemy untill the end, she could flip side or she could be in love with MC and become one of the girls, only dev knows that, we can make theories about it but only time will bring answers.

If we see it by December I'd be pleasantly surprised. However considering the first set of teasers hasn't hit yet i wouldn't hold my breath. Realistically Feb or March 2023
Patreon didnt "free" dev yet, probably after that, hes going to release some stuff.
 

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There's nothing to release other than teasers as he gets work done on the next chapter and What Ifs. The What If topics got put up yesterday abd we'll know what the topic will be probably Wednesday. But even that will not drop till the end of August or beginning of September. Plus we don't know when his review will be done from Patreon. Meaning who knows when we'll see the What If once it's ready.
 

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when is chapter 11?
At the current rate it would be optimistic to put it this year. With what if's coming back into play as well even if they are done in free time, who knows? The render quality is going up and the amount of them is also up which takes longer, plus the patreon drama. 9 to 10 took north of 6 months and there really isn't any reason to suspect the next big update will take less time because again, quality is up, longer time to make
 
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They are also why there were 5 ntr stories in a row and almost all the what ifs being Brenna hunter and why perception of the game had soured. Surely wwg can think of other things than whales shoehorning to entice 20 dollar tier
A lot of the sourness was when WWG showed the first ever vag sex scenbe with Brenna and Hunter as a gift to the NTR whales (who dominate the top tier and make it pointless to pledge and vote for anything non-NTR, been there and done that until it was obviouslly a lost cause).

Now that WWG 'gave' first ever full complement sex scenes for Ophelia to Hunter, including vag sex which even MC didn't get, people may or may not care (likely won't as most who didn't like when this happene with Brenna left 9 months ago) about the game, so doubt it would be more sour. And secondly, Ophelia will dominate the What IF sex scenes, most likley with Hunter, probably options not altready in game like Hunter, Brenna and Ophelia, because why not show first ever threesoms with the characters as a NTR focused scene since that's who is in the top tier? Makes the most sense so would be stupid for WWG to not do it.
 

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As for the guys complaining ntr just ignore them. The front page says the ntr is opinional so I don't think they are actually turning that many people away. I think they are more upset than usual because of Ophelia's first vaginal scene was in a bad ending, which I think was a bad idea. A lot of people don't really care that much about anal so WWG should have did her first vaginal scene like he did Amber's and we would have gotten less complaints. Then have this chapter's bad ending be anal. Ophelia was probably the most anticipated of 3 and Hunter got there first so they feel they need a place to vent. Hunter getting there first is why they feel like it's an ntr focused game even though it's not. That and the what if problem. If you report it the mods will probably remove it. If not they'll lose interest after a while.
This is a great summary of the issue that many had with the game, including myself. There are a number of good NTR focused games on F95, and I've enjoyed them, as well as non-NTR, corruption/trainer, harem, the whole gambit. Usually the story makes the game.

For me only, if the first rendered/shown vaginal sec scenes for Brenna and Ophelia were with the MC I wouldn't have card if they were anally reamed by Hunter so badly you could drive a train in there. I'd also still be supporting the game. But that's because I don't care about anal. I also don't care about Catherine so Hunter could have had her all day long too, anyway he wanted, first and been no negative issues.

However, when WWG did the first ever rendered sex vag scenes with the two main femals characters it showed the real direction of the game and made the "not NTR" stance really just a facade for the players and the Patreon supporters. I mean Ophelia sex was 2+ years in the making and although not surprising that Hunter got first dibs and made the MC a phantom, "unofficial" sloppy seconds. Unfortunate for a supposedly non-NTR focused game that the first time vag sex scene was ever possible with the character was not with the MC, but a side character.

Oh and don't be deceived, the game and it's Discord and development is very NTR focused, or at least the Discord was as i have not been there since Update 8 when WWG proved they were focused on NTR above all else. Although it's technically "not in the game" that does zero to recude the fact that a large focus is on NTR based on story, dev actions, Discord and how the game has been done so far.
 

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A lot of the sourness was when WWG showed the first ever vag sex scenbe with Brenna and Hunter as a gift to the NTR whales (who dominate the top tier and make it pointless to pledge and vote for anything non-NTR, been there and done that until it was obviouslly a lost cause).
I don't "gift" anything in Power Vacuum. Almost every big moment has been outlined for years. The game follows an incredibly obvious trend with Hunter...he gets the girls first! He has since Chapter 2.

But more importantly:

The main game contains avoidable, non-canonical NTR content.

The 'What If...' minigames often contain unavoidable NTR and are clearly labeled.

Both are fantasy and don't affect the main story.



If this offends you, please vacate the thread or refrain from arguing about it. Reports welcome.
 

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I want to add to that^ The Brenna scene came WAY before What ifs were a thing. So he had no way of knowing his top patreons were even mostly NTR fans. He never did any thing that could gauge that. That was made because the story went that way, not because he did it to make any side happy.
 

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:HideThePain:Well at least you finally admitted it.
I've been upfront about Hunter being ahead:

And being mad that the antagonist is further along than the MC also overlooks a basic element of NTR. Jealousy. You want the NTR to be as potent as possible, so it's another reason to have Hunter be a step ahead of the MC. The NTR fans enjoy the stronger scenes and the vanilla fans are unaffected because they don't watch the bad endings.

What I wasn't prepared for is vanilla players who get riled up at the thought of content they don't experience being slightly more advanced.
Hey, look at that! A post that perfectly applies here!
 

E_nigma

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Well more referring to the ntr game being the game you actually wanted to make so you baited people in with the normal content which is why it's taken 9 chapters to get any meat on the bones with the main girls. Fair enough tho, hopefully the next one doesn't try and satisfy such diametrically opposed groups of fans. Don't think I've ever seen that post, one of things that in retrospect seems a bit silly but at the time I suppose fair enough you didn't expect backlash
 
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