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Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]
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I know WWG is here and appears occasionally, this post kinda "answer" alot of questions we made, like some people saying hes wasting time on What If instead of main game, why Brenna and Hunter always win and how this could be change, i hope people who spend money on him understand those changes.
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Yup, I'm gonna try to suggest more fun to develop what ifs rather then just go for a short porn story. Also don't plan to suggest Brenna and Hunter for a while. So many people are unlocked now, including Ophelia. TBH, she is going to be flavor of the month, for a few months.
Which making the what ifs every 2 months should help with him not burning out with her.
Which making the what ifs every 2 months should help with him not burning out with her.
Pretty reassuring that wwg is addressing the issues and understands why people were epically frustrated with him and the game. Hopefully what if voting gets opened up beyond the 20 dollar tier to further increase the diversity of the what ifs, or has some sort of further content limits. With drew and the cuckold husband in the mix that should hopefully inspire some new scenarios as well.
- Oct 1, 2020
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I hope possible what-ifs will include Drew from now on. Drew doing Brenna would work very fine i believe
They are also why there were 5 ntr stories in a row and almost all the what ifs being Brenna hunter and why perception of the game had soured. Surely wwg can think of other things than whales shoehorning to entice 20 dollar tier
- Feb 28, 2019
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because Brenna was the only fuckable character then... now Ophelia is there in the mix, I HIGHLY doubt Catherine will get selected over Ophelia... Drew with Ophelia does seem nice.. for what ifs even WWG knows that NTR will win it's pretty obvious from the report.. so Drew & Ophelia what if could be nice change of pace, as all what ifs are hunter favored already... let's see
Regardless of who was fuckable or not, they always went for the boring ntr route. There is no reason to believe they wouldn't do the same. It's not like they couldn't have picked one of the girls that wasn't the sisters or mom or sterling over hunter. There are tons of possibilities now as you (and I) mentioned with drew and the cuckold situation with the masseuse and more, it's not like the other what 4 or 5 girls not named Brenna, Catherine or Ophelia didn't exist until this point and we saw one? ( or 2 I guess 2, I don't really follow what if cause it's mostly ntr garbage) what if that didn't feature the immediate family. Unless wwg purposely denies ntr like every other one or something why would anything change at this point? What makes you think they aren't just gonna vote hunter/someone like always? The one exception being the one time wwg did actually take ntr off the table and we saw something actually different. At least opening voting to other tiers would increase the sample size beyond people who largely pay to get cucked and open the possibility of actually seeing other scenarios. Not to diminish people that support at 20 just because they support the game but, come on.
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NTR is asked for because the game is riddled with Vanilla. We will eventually see Sterling fuck in every position and combo of girls. We get 1 or 2 Hunter Scenes an update. So of course we want to see something we don't normally get to see. Vanilla has main game, we pay $20 so let us have NTR.
That's because the rule of "What ifs can only include characters and situations that have already happened or will not ever happen. Which is why we can get Amber with Kevin what if. It hasn't happened in the main game, but it also will never happen so it isn't getting ahead of the game.
I was pledged for over a year at the $20 tier before what ifs became a thing. He made it with a thank you bonus in mind. He didn't have to do this, but he said he wanted to give more to the people on this tier. People can claim it's bait to get people to get on that tier, but i would be a $20 tier even if he never created what ifs. It's sucks that people take his good will and twist it to fit their narrative.
You can't blame us for wanting to see Brenna get fucked more. As she didn't get fucked until CH 7 and she was the only main girl to be unlocked. You're asking why Brenna was picked more over Eva or Mallory? Like come on, are you suggesting the popular characters shouldn't be picked over side characters with not much development?
Again, what ifs are a thank you bonus for $20 tiers. You can see other scenarios in that tier and that's what WWG is asking for.
I'm saying for someone complaining about vanilla, 4 of the 6 being essentially the same seems a bit sketch. Regardless, at least the issues are being acknowledged and hopefully what if's improve from here on out as it seems wwg is committed to improving.
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Who's complaining about vanilla? I had to reread this page, but i didn't see anyone make a complaint or say they dislike vanilla.
None of the what ifs are alike. The diversity in the situations are fine. I can only partly agree that Brenna needs to be used less. She isn't used as much as some people claim or remember.
1. was just a continuation of the Shed scene, so that one might be the least exciting. (brenna)
2. was about Lucia and the old men in the cabin. You couldn't ask for a what if to be any more different.
3. was a vanilla what if.
4. Was a vacation that went south quick. It might have starred Hunter and Brenna, but the premise was exciting. WWG himself said it was his favorite what if. At least at the time of completion. Maybe 5 or 6 could be his new favorite, haven't asked. (brenna)
5. Was Kevin with Aliza and Amber. The story was fun too. it took them away from the house and focused on side characters completely.
6. WWG tried something new and tried to test the smell fetish (his words). (brenna)
so sure, while 3 of the 6 were Brenna, they are nothing alike and they were spaced out. We never got a Brenna back to back and Brenna even had a big gap since What if 1, not being requested until what if 4 again.
None of the what ifs are alike. The diversity in the situations are fine. I can only partly agree that Brenna needs to be used less. She isn't used as much as some people claim or remember.
1. was just a continuation of the Shed scene, so that one might be the least exciting. (brenna)
2. was about Lucia and the old men in the cabin. You couldn't ask for a what if to be any more different.
3. was a vanilla what if.
4. Was a vacation that went south quick. It might have starred Hunter and Brenna, but the premise was exciting. WWG himself said it was his favorite what if. At least at the time of completion. Maybe 5 or 6 could be his new favorite, haven't asked. (brenna)
5. Was Kevin with Aliza and Amber. The story was fun too. it took them away from the house and focused on side characters completely.
6. WWG tried something new and tried to test the smell fetish (his words). (brenna)
so sure, while 3 of the 6 were Brenna, they are nothing alike and they were spaced out. We never got a Brenna back to back and Brenna even had a big gap since What if 1, not being requested until what if 4 again.
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Ch10 does seem to "include" 1-9 but it also seems to be missing some stuff or bugged; Not only is the download smaller (which I can attribute to optimization or something) but it seems that some scenes are broken with missing images, and some of the UI images are missing as well (just comparing the files in the folder, I haven't taken time bugtest the UI in game, but the broken scenes are definitely in game if playing on Ch10 files only)
I had to download ch1-9 from rpdl and then apply the ch10 files over it for the game to work properly. After that I played through the whole game without issue after that.
- Mar 9, 2020
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What Ifs could have been an explorations of something we dont already have - so instead they kept voting to see Brenna get fucked. We get Hunter fucking every update as well - guess who also got alot of voter love...
Im glad WWG himself has come out and put a stop to over saturation of people who honestly will just keep pandering to their own desires vs making them interesting unless restrained and it seems that will be the case from now on. Its not the main game was lacking in NTR either but given its main role is a parody of the most inexplicably popular kinks such as incest and ugly bastard NTR i will admit i found it disappointing that the voters decided they wanted less parody and more just straight up NTR wins the day scenarios with out much featured ugly bastard and their fave girl. I give kudos to two of them for giving us something we truly were not getting and unlikely to (pregnancy sex) but unless they start to being more varied and maybe exploring characters you know wont be featured heavily in the main game then they really are just alternate scenes from the main game vs true what ifs.
What if Drew didn't transition before he returned? What if Sterling's dad surprisingly turned up alive? What if Mallory picked the wrong woman to get revenge on? What if Azela was still fat?
I came up with those ideas off the top of my head over the space of about a minute. Its EFFORTLESS to come up with What if Ideas that are different from what were gonna ever get down the line in the main game but nope those who backed the most ironically backed the What If premise into a corner. People should have been dancing to idea of even more PV goodness between updates but instead it seemed to trigger more people than please (though when its a minority out to appease only the minority the i suppose its not that surprising in hindsight).
Im glad WWG himself has come out and put a stop to over saturation of people who honestly will just keep pandering to their own desires vs making them interesting unless restrained and it seems that will be the case from now on. Its not the main game was lacking in NTR either but given its main role is a parody of the most inexplicably popular kinks such as incest and ugly bastard NTR i will admit i found it disappointing that the voters decided they wanted less parody and more just straight up NTR wins the day scenarios with out much featured ugly bastard and their fave girl. I give kudos to two of them for giving us something we truly were not getting and unlikely to (pregnancy sex) but unless they start to being more varied and maybe exploring characters you know wont be featured heavily in the main game then they really are just alternate scenes from the main game vs true what ifs.
What if Drew didn't transition before he returned? What if Sterling's dad surprisingly turned up alive? What if Mallory picked the wrong woman to get revenge on? What if Azela was still fat?
I came up with those ideas off the top of my head over the space of about a minute. Its EFFORTLESS to come up with What if Ideas that are different from what were gonna ever get down the line in the main game but nope those who backed the most ironically backed the What If premise into a corner. People should have been dancing to idea of even more PV goodness between updates but instead it seemed to trigger more people than please (though when its a minority out to appease only the minority the i suppose its not that surprising in hindsight).
- Aug 30, 2017
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Uh, no? It couldn't because YOU CAN'T SUGGEST something that hasn't happened in the game. You guys want to keep having something to say, but don't even know the rules and don't even pledge to begin with. I also said in the post above that that Brenna isn't as used as you guys say she is. Sure, she's in half, but that's because she was the only main girl that was unlocked to EVEN BE USABLE. You guy's "Brenna is the only one asked for" is a flawed arguement point, because there was no one else to even pick. Vanilla or NTR side, you guys know Brenna is the better pick between Eva or mallory, the only 2 other girls that can be used for what ifs. Since Even Sterling couldn't fuck Brenna, because she didn't have Vaginal until 2 chapters after Hunter.
But he hasn't? He is increasing time between what ifs because they are getting bigger and longer to make. He has no problem with NTR winning every time. Here's what he said directly on patreon. Actually, he's not even asking to make changes in the request. He even expects the ideas that are going to be suggested are probably going to be boring, but he's going to do them anways.
That's subjective. Of course if you hate NTR your look on it will be "there is too much" or the usual "There shouldn't be any at all". If you like NTR then you're on the other side of "There could be more". Realistically, the game is about 90% Vanilla and 10% NTR. So of course it's not balanced, but we never asked for it to be. This game wouldn't work if it was 50% Vanilla and 50% NTR.
Drew can't be used with anyone except Tiff. Why would anyone want butcher Drew with making it as boring as just turn her back into a regular man? You say the ideas are boring but throw out the most boring and plain idea i've ever seen and i've seen a lot of what if suggestions on patreon.
Sterlings dad can't be used. WWG made that a rule.
Fine, Mallory suggestion is one good one.
And who would want that? How many chubby chasers are pledged?
You say effortless but then come up with the worst What if suggestions ever. Goes to show that you actually need to think about what people want to see. Remember, you're in a contest with other suggestions. You're not gonna get votes with your half assed suggestions.
WE ARE HAPPY. It's you minority ntr-hating non-pledgers that are the ones crying. Us on patreon who are given WHAT WE ASKED FOR are really happy.
- May 24, 2019
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There were several things driving the choices for What Ifs: character popularity, sexual eligibility, and premise.
Obviously Brenna was going to win multiple times because she is very popular AND she had already had sex in the main game. Characters like Penny were unlikely to win because not enough people would vote for her. Characters like Ophelia would've been a waste because she couldn't have sex yet. I think she's still restricted from vaginal sex with Sterling because this hasn't happened yet in the game but obviously will in the future.
If you want to see something interesting/different, first consider if WWG would even make it (see above). Then find an interesting premise, because a really good idea could sway the voters. Even if you aren't a top patron, maybe someone who is will like your idea and submit it themselves. I've seen some fun ideas kicked around on the discord but I haven't seen much here.
Obviously Brenna was going to win multiple times because she is very popular AND she had already had sex in the main game. Characters like Penny were unlikely to win because not enough people would vote for her. Characters like Ophelia would've been a waste because she couldn't have sex yet. I think she's still restricted from vaginal sex with Sterling because this hasn't happened yet in the game but obviously will in the future.
If you want to see something interesting/different, first consider if WWG would even make it (see above). Then find an interesting premise, because a really good idea could sway the voters. Even if you aren't a top patron, maybe someone who is will like your idea and submit it themselves. I've seen some fun ideas kicked around on the discord but I haven't seen much here.
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^that
To add onto the Ophelia being restricted. She is only restricted for vaginal. She could have been used for what ifs for a while now, if you only want to see handjobs or blowjobs from her. It comes down to you being able to request what has happened.
So she can have Anal in a what if now. Whats great though, is WWG said that if a character has vaginal, she is open to all forms of sex acts in a what if request. Vaginal is at the top of the sexual hierarchy list. So characters who have had vaginal can have anal in a what if, just not vaginal if they've had anal.
To add onto the Ophelia being restricted. She is only restricted for vaginal. She could have been used for what ifs for a while now, if you only want to see handjobs or blowjobs from her. It comes down to you being able to request what has happened.
So she can have Anal in a what if now. Whats great though, is WWG said that if a character has vaginal, she is open to all forms of sex acts in a what if request. Vaginal is at the top of the sexual hierarchy list. So characters who have had vaginal can have anal in a what if, just not vaginal if they've had anal.
- Mar 9, 2020
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Listen you absolute dolt - i pledged for an entire year. Not the 20 dollar tier certainly but dont just assume im some fucking non pledging minority so you can try and high horse and condescend as i some salty pirate. You can get prissy all you damned want that the What Ifs were no were near as well received as you would have liked (and you advocated some of them so of course that would hurt you deep that there were not overty heralded when released to public domain like her) and im not even pretending my ideas were all that amazing - i literally just made them up on the spot (even said as much) as your one who goes to "well lets hear YOUR ideas then" as if they are somehow only of merit or valid if they from the minds of rich simps, my point was ideas are FUCKING EASY to make and they can be UNIQUE! and somehow a character featuring in HALF of all of them isnt somehow over saturation? your logic fails me there completely but then again of course you would defend it.
As for being an NTR hater? Why the hell would i back a game for so long if i hated a game where its very premise is a story of a foul NTR antagonist on the prowl for your loved ones? What an absolute dolt just making that assumption but if it helps your feeling of worth as the gatekeeper then by all means knock yourself out and call me an NTR hating minority. In fact see how many posts here ive been against NTR in the game when i see Hunter as an essential presence in the game and one of the funniest too that matter.
Its fascinating that him literary dedicating much more time between the releases to spend more time doing fun stuff that never the less says about the idea well having run dry already and five NTR what ifs between chapter releases would be ridiculous and cannibalizes the characters as though there is no issue for him there - he will make them sure but its not exactly something he seems overtly enthused about (why would a NTR content developer have issue with creating NTR in principle - a ridiculous notion i sure as hell aint claiming) and directly backs my claim the minority are pandering for the minority and even he recognises it.
As for the fine print ive no idea who exactly is and isn't allowed but given the very first one i played had Lucia and yet you say the only main character available is Brenna (or Eva and Mallory) means it comes across as BS for a bloody start - ive also seen the likes of Ophelia, Amber, Azela and Catherine in them.
Lot of great points, some will do nothing but white knight or mental gymnastics no matter what (not to mention the resident gatekeeper) but you hit the nail on the head. It isn't hard to come up with scenarios that are different and unique, with them getting more elaborate hopefully the scenarios can actually be interesting. 6 could have been pretty hot had it not been ugly bastard, if that same scenario happened with drew or sterling and/or a different female as well it could have been unique, but it was more or less something that has been seen in the main game bad ends already.
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Indeed and ive been subjected to that already lol. With Dartred with i assume a straight face saying "how many chubby chasers are pledges" because i suggest what if Azela was still fat... from the same pledgers who voted an obsese creepy man getting a threesome - honesty i love the game as much for the comedy as much else so these kind if ideas could give us some real funny moments but then they just want to get off on seeing a wrinkly old ballsack bang Brenna so of course there is irony in calling anyone the "minority" whilst being the vocal fans of the Ugly Bastard kink. Its an exclusive club for high backers but you would think same results would come had it been say an open for all vote for ideas and winning scenario... still what would a "minority cryer" like myself know haha