Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[lazymunchlax]

Are you talking about the NTR side of the game? I admit, I get some lump in the throat feelings about doing the NTR versions of games(due to a personal situation that happened to me), and I have only been playing the non NTR version. and I guess I'm trying to get the nerve up to play the NTR side. But, without spoilers, how bad does that version get? Is it possible to beat him at his own game? I just want to minimize my mental damage from that story version. I know, I'm a pussy when it comes to that subject, but I want to try to be less insensed by it, and just try to stomach it.

So, an NTR ending is simply "A route where this character has sex with the antagonist." The usual connotation is that, the sex is so good they are done with you. Now, some routes do a full bad end, some routes just show a sex scene and some end badly for everyone / the antagonist.

I can guaruntee,

Spoiler: there is at least one ending where

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If you are NOT okay with that, do NOT turn on NTR.

If you are okay, and mayhaps enjoy, seeing extra sex scenes between the antagonist(s) and any of the girls, while prepared to see some pretty bad ones, then give it a try.

The extra mini games do not explicitly have to use Hunter, they can also use random background characters.

Honestly though? Bad Ends are either a Bad End for the MC or a Bad End for one of the characters in the game.

 

[torgpolariski]

I can accept the netori type story, me being the antagonist. I just don't like the type where I'm being excluded.
So, in the interest of still enjoying the story, I probably won't turn on the NTR version.
Yeah, I just can't stand Hunter.

 

[Tweaty]

I wonder if this game is headed towards an optional/n or just a bad ending route/routes with futa on male scene(s)???
Cause I kinda definitely say it is, if I'm not mistaken it, from by having had accidentally misinterpreted the last few words that Sterling (MC) says at the end of the update while lying down on his bed..
Which, if I'm recalling those exact words correctly (really don't feel like going back to check word per word, since this only now occurred to me), they were; "Damn, now I can't stop thinking about how big drew dick is, fuck!!"
Or something like that!!
Either way, even if it wasn't those exact words, they still were definitely something like that..

But yeah.,
I was saying tho, im not sure what that was all about, nor even if the dev meant shit at all by it..
But what do u guys think that was or meant, or what the developer was hinting about????
(If he was actually hinting on anything at all??)
Me, Im still juggling 2 possibilities;
One's, it being what I already basically mentioned, which was it possibly being a hint of some kind of an optional futa on male route/bad ending maybe, n the next/or n one of the future updates, (lol, futa(ure) get it? Just noticed as I was typing)
N the other one's, it just being another way of joking around that the dev is once again using to just be funny like he always does thru out his game..
But good devs do usually always hint off something that let's u know about what the next possible update/updates has n store whenever there's really about to be an unexpected change n there game's storyline(s)!! (For the better/worse)
I won't complain tho, with whatever it may be!!!!

 

[Solarous]

I wonder if this game is headed towards an optional/n or just a bad ending route/routes with futa on male scene(s)???
Cause I kinda definitely say it is, if I'm not mistaken it, from by having had accidentally misinterpreted the last few words that Sterling (MC) says at the end of the update while lying down on his bed..
Which, if I'm recalling those exact words correctly (really don't feel like going back to check word per word, since this only now occurred to me), they were; "Damn, now I can't stop thinking about how big drew dick is, fuck!!"
Or something like that!!
Either way, even if it wasn't those exact words, they still were definitely something like that..

I asked about the quote too and was told that it was sterling hoping that was the case for his father (not him) because

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[Fayn Arawn]

I wonder if this game is headed towards an optional/n or just a bad ending route/routes with futa on male scene(s)???
Cause I kinda definitely say it is, if I'm not mistaken it, from by having had accidentally misinterpreted the last few words that Sterling (MC) says at the end of the update while lying down on his bed..
Which, if I'm recalling those exact words correctly (really don't feel like going back to check word per word, since this only now occurred to me), they were; "Damn, now I can't stop thinking about how big drew dick is, fuck!!"
Or something like that!!
Either way, even if it wasn't those exact words, they still were definitely something like that..

But yeah.,
I was saying tho, im not sure what that was all about, nor even if the dev meant shit at all by it..
But what do u guys think that was or meant, or what the developer was hinting about????
(If he was actually hinting on anything at all??)
Me, Im still juggling 2 possibilities;
One's, it being what I already basically mentioned, which was it possibly being a hint of some kind of an optional futa on male route/bad ending maybe, n the next/or n one of the future updates, (lol, futa(ure) get it? Just noticed as I was typing)
N the other one's, it just being another way of joking around that the dev is once again using to just be funny like he always does thru out his game..
But good devs do usually always hint off something that let's u know about what the next possible update/updates has n store whenever there's really about to be an unexpected change n there game's storyline(s)!! (For the better/worse)
I won't complain tho, with whatever it may be!!!!

This was a little hard to read, but...

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[torgpolariski]

This was a little hard to read, but...

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Of course, another possibilty is that, if Drew is really that big, maybe it would be preferable to use Drew to cut Hunter out, then he could just destroy Drew at a later time, after Hunter is gone, seeing as Drew is obviously, most likely, a better choice than Hunter to deal with. Maybe this is his way to minimize the mental damage. Because Hunter is so grotesque, and he wouldn't want to let the girls have that kind of memory/experience.

 

[Miliryan]

I wonder if this game is headed towards an optional/n or just a bad ending route/routes with futa on male scene(s)???
Cause I kinda definitely say it is, if I'm not mistaken it, from by having had accidentally misinterpreted the last few words that Sterling (MC) says at the end of the update while lying down on his bed..
Which, if I'm recalling those exact words correctly (really don't feel like going back to check word per word, since this only now occurred to me), they were; "Damn, now I can't stop thinking about how big drew dick is, fuck!!"
Or something like that!!
Either way, even if it wasn't those exact words, they still were definitely something like that..

But yeah.,
I was saying tho, im not sure what that was all about, nor even if the dev meant shit at all by it..
But what do u guys think that was or meant, or what the developer was hinting about????
(If he was actually hinting on anything at all??)
Me, Im still juggling 2 possibilities;
One's, it being what I already basically mentioned, which was it possibly being a hint of some kind of an optional futa on male route/bad ending maybe, n the next/or n one of the future updates, (lol, futa(ure) get it? Just noticed as I was typing)
N the other one's, it just being another way of joking around that the dev is once again using to just be funny like he always does thru out his game..
But good devs do usually always hint off something that let's u know about what the next possible update/updates has n store whenever there's really about to be an unexpected change n there game's storyline(s)!! (For the better/worse)
I won't complain tho, with whatever it may be!!!!

I think it is possible, that in some bad ends there will be futa on male. But not likely. Well, the possibility is there. It's up to the dev.
In the game Ophelia and the MC played, there was a little futa on male. But my interpretation is, that was mostly a joke. I mean in that game those guys almost instantly turned into women. So, i think we got a little teaser there, what will happen if Drew is showing up. (The futa on female.)

And for your question about the MC's father.

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[Grey Wolf 73]

Of course, another possibilty is that, if Drew is really that big, maybe it would be preferable to use Drew to cut Hunter out, then he could just destroy Drew at a later time, after Hunter is gone, seeing as Drew is obviously, most likely, a better choice than Hunter to deal with. Maybe this is his way to minimize the mental damage. Because Hunter is so grotesque, and he wouldn't want to let the girls have that kind of memory/experience.

Well, first off, based on the answer I got to a question I posed recently(if things seen/spoken of in the NTR paths are considered canon), Drew IS that big. Apparently as big as the MC(Sterling).

If Sterling were to attempt to use Drew against Hunter, it could backfire badly(a possible What If scenario?). Remember that Drew is not only Hunter's child, but is also involved in this 'family counseling' business with him. They have likely teamed up in situations like this countless times, and the most probable result is Sterling getting pegged by Drew when she isn't railing all the other women that Hunter has impregnated.

Drew is being made out to be a much tougher opponent that Hunter, IMO. Remember how quickly Drew was able to become everyone's friend and confidant, even to the point of practically culling Sterling from their lives? What if somehow Drew were to have her OWN supply of the drugs Hunter was using? It would be game over in a single chapter. Drew's youth and energy make her far more dangerous that Hunter's grotesque appearance and creepy vibe, no matter how big his cock is.

 

[Tweaty]

Of course, another possibilty is that, if Drew is really that big, maybe it would be preferable to use Drew to cut Hunter out, then he could just destroy Drew at a later time, after Hunter is gone, seeing as Drew is obviously, most likely, a better choice than Hunter to deal with. Maybe this is his way to minimize the mental damage. Because Hunter is so grotesque, and he wouldn't want to let the girls have that kind of memory/experience.

Hmmm!!?
I guess thats a pretty interesting thought n way.,
But don't like 1 or 2 of the girls, I believe its was one or both of his sisters (Aliza n/or Ophelia),
Almost like completely hate Drew for that exact same very reason of him and Sterling's dad having had an affair together???
N if I also remember right, I believe Hunter had winded up mentioning something, not n these exact words tho, but still stressed upon to him n a somewhat more or less exaggerated way at the very end of the last update.,
That how if Sterling actually thinks that if he's, who's old ass Hunter, is truly a really hard pain n the ass of just an almost all out too much to deal with, that he was really, going to be n for far more than just that an handful hand full, up to the point of where Sterling could/would possibly end up completely losing his shit with just from him having to deal with the type of person that Drew really is by himself, without Hunter even needing to be n the picture..
Which, now when I think about it, is probably why Hunter ended up disappearing n the first place for that entire update, (unless u take that bad ending-NTR route where he only finally shows up)
from him probably trying to prove his point with him not being able to handle Drew, all the while having, or rather hoping to have Drew come n to help remove Sterling from out the picture for him!!???
Like a 2 birds n one stone type of thing..
Cause we gotta remember that Hunter, n can't be naive to not think that along with Drew, both n cahoots or separately without the other's knowledge, have there own hidden agenda games planned up there sleeves, with each of there plays n order being harder than the last..??

But again, all this just being other possibilities....

 

[Tweaty]

I think it is possible, that in some bad ends there will be futa on male. But not likely. Well, the possibility is there. It's up to the dev.
In the game Ophelia and the MC played, there was a little futa on male. But my interpretation is, that was mostly a joke. I mean in that game those guys almost instantly turned into women. So, i think we got a little teaser there, what will happen if Drew is showing up. (The futa on female.)

And for your question about the MC's father.

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Very true, indeed!!!

 

[Tweaty]

Well, first off, based on the answer I got to a question I posed recently(if things seen/spoken of in the NTR paths are considered canon), Drew IS that big. Apparently as big as the MC(Sterling).

If Sterling were to attempt to use Drew against Hunter, it could backfire badly(a possible What If scenario?). Remember that Drew is not only Hunter's child, but is also involved in this 'family counseling' business with him. They have likely teamed up in situations like this countless times, and the most probable result is Sterling getting pegged by Drew when she isn't railing all the other women that Hunter has impregnated.

Drew is being made out to be a much tougher opponent that Hunter, IMO. Remember how quickly Drew was able to become everyone's friend and confidant, even to the point of practically culling Sterling from their lives? What if somehow Drew were to have her OWN supply of the drugs Hunter was using? It would be game over in a single chapter. Drew's youth and energy make her far more dangerous that Hunter's grotesque appearance and creepy vibe, no matter how big his cock is.

That too, is a very good assumption!!

 

[SuddenReal]

Drew is being made out to be a much tougher opponent that Hunter, IMO. Remember how quickly Drew was able to become everyone's friend and confidant, even to the point of practically culling Sterling from their lives?

And let's not forget the Tiff storyline. Drew caught Sterling stealing on of his panties, not knowing it was for Kevin, so came to the conclusion that Sterling was gay. In other words, this whole thing is easy mode and dad is just losing his touch. There's no reason to speed things up and he can take it slowly. But when the Tiff storyline comes to a conclusion, Drew finds out that, yes, Sterling is very much interested in women, and no, Sterling does NOT want to share. Which means it's time to kick it up a notch and steal the girls. I think Drew will be a lot more dangerous in next chapters since Sterling (inadvertantly) showed his hand.

 

[Grey Wolf 73]

Hmmm!!?
I guess thats a pretty interesting thought n way.,
But don't like 1 or 2 of the girls, I believe its was one or both of his sisters (Aliza n/or Ophelia),
Almost like completely hate Drew for that exact same very reason of him and Sterling's dad having had an affair together???

I don't recall anywhere that it states anyone actually knew of Drew and David(Sterling's father) having an affair...
However...

When asked about Drew, Ophelia wouldn't say anything and seemed almost... secretive. Maybe she DID know about her husband having an affair, and won't talk about it out of embarrassment or saving Sterling from another reason to hate his father.

Aliza was more forthcoming, but knew very little about Drew. This seemed more from a general lack of information rather than hiding something, IMO.

Did Hunter know? Did Drew tell him? If so, why hasn't Hunter used this information against Sterling already?
If Hunter knew, he was likely waiting until Drew's arrival to use it against Sterling. This points to Hunter knowing all along that Drew would be coming to either: a) Partake of Hunter's spoils(the women) or b) assist him in defeating Sterling. Either way, it seems clear that this has been planned out for a long time (when, or maybe before, David died).

 

[torgpolariski]

And let's not forget the Tiff storyline. Drew caught Sterling stealing on of his panties, not knowing it was for Kevin, so came to the conclusion that Sterling was gay. In other words, this whole thing is easy mode and dad is just losing his touch. There's no reason to speed things up and he can take it slowly. But when the Tiff storyline comes to a conclusion, Drew finds out that, yes, Sterling is very much interested in women, and no, Sterling does NOT want to share. Which means it's time to kick it up a notch and steal the girls. I think Drew will be a lot more dangerous in next chapters since Sterling (inadvertantly) showed his hand.

Yeah, just yeah, there is that, also. Dammit...
But, let's not forget that Lucia could be, hopefully, helpful to the MC. But, of course she likes trans, sooooo... we'll see what happens.
What I would do is turn the tables on her, "get close" to Drew, while sneakily feed her the drugs, and deliver her to someone who makes people disappear(traffickers on the darkweb through Kevin, maybe) and let them do what they want with her, as long as they keep her under control, and gone.
Just sayin...

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I don't recall anywhere that it states anyone actually knew of Drew and David(Sterling's father) having an affair...
However...

When asked about Drew, Ophelia wouldn't say anything and seemed almost... secretive. Maybe she DID know about her husband having an affair, and won't talk about it out of embarrassment or saving Sterling from another reason to hate his father.

Aliza was more forthcoming, but knew very little about Drew. This seemed more from a general lack of information rather than hiding something, IMO.

While Sterling and the audience only just learned of the affair, it's possible other characters knew about it and were being discreet in order to shield Sterling (and others) from the burden of knowing. When I replayed the game before chapter 10 released, I assumed characters were reluctant to talk about Drew because of her gender transition. It would be very interesting if Ophelia knew about the affair, or if it's somehow connected to David's death.

Did Hunter know? Did Drew tell him? If so, why hasn't Hunter used this information against Sterling already?
If Hunter knew, he was likely waiting until Drew's arrival to use it against Sterling. This points to Hunter knowing all along that Drew would be coming to either: a) Partake of Hunter's spoils(the women) or b) assist him in defeating Sterling. Either way, it seems clear that this has been planned out for a long time (when, or maybe before, David died).

Considering Hunter and Drew shared David's mother and (sister) Keira, I'm sure they planned to share Ophelia and the rest. David was an obstacle to their plan, now Sterling is an (unexpected) obstacle.

 

[Tweaty]

Honestly, both of what u guys r saying n where both ends r coming from, could be 2 full pieces of the same pie..
At least that's what it looks like.,
Cause from while reading back thru together both ends of ur guys thoughts, to pretty much each ones own stated facts, all they way leading down to ur guys reasoning of opinion, it seems like each one of u actually has a piece that fits perfectly with the one of the blanks to one of ur guys unanswered questions, or with ones incorrect or just not fully well correct answers/statements..
I'm sure guys will probably see what I mean when looking back thru, n reading both of ur posts at once urselves!!

I don't recall anywhere that it states anyone actually knew of Drew and David(Sterling's father) having an affair...
However...

When asked about Drew, Ophelia wouldn't say anything and seemed almost... secretive. Maybe she DID know about her husband having an affair, and won't talk about it out of embarrassment or saving Sterling from another reason to hate his father.

Aliza was more forthcoming, but knew very little about Drew. This seemed more from a general lack of information rather than hiding something, IMO.

Did Hunter know? Did Drew tell him? If so, why hasn't Hunter used this information against Sterling already?
If Hunter knew, he was likely waiting until Drew's arrival to use it against Sterling. This points to Hunter knowing all along that Drew would be coming to either: a) Partake of Hunter's spoils(the women) or b) assist him in defeating Sterling. Either way, it seems clear that this has been planned out for a long time (when, or maybe before, David died).

While Sterling and the audience only just learned of the affair, it's possible other characters knew about it and were being discreet in order to shield Sterling (and others) from the burden of knowing. When I replayed the game before chapter 10 released, I assumed characters were reluctant to talk about Drew because of her gender transition. It would be very interesting if Ophelia knew about the affair, or if it's somehow connected to David's death.


Considering Hunter and Drew shared David's mother and (sister) Keira, I'm sure they planned to share Ophelia and the rest. David was an obstacle to their plan, now Sterling is an (unexpected) obstacle.

N, not mention that both ur guys ends too, go together pretty well, as 2 perfect examples to what it I was getting at about when saying.,

Cause we gotta remember that Hunter, n can't be naive to not think that along with Drew, both r n cahoots or separately without the other's knowledge, have there own hidden agenda games planned up there sleeves, with each of there plays n order being harder than the last..??

But again, all this just being other possibilities....

 

[torgpolariski]

either way, MC needs to start really using his brain and find an answer to these 2 being in the house. he needs to remove them from the equation, which means he needs to get help from somewhere. maybe he could find a way to get the journal info to ophelia, he might even have to use help from less than desirable people, as i said before(kevin, i.e.). maybe even employ underhanded methods, like some kind of drugs like hunter used in the shampoo, or similar. if he doesn't start paying better attention, they will run him over. of course, he has 2 sisters that can really do alot of physical damage, and if he was smart, he would let them know, in order to protect their mother from the danger that hunter and drew are, without her or the others knowing. there are several ways to save his family from these 2 dogs.

 

[ramu098]

is there any teaser released

 

[torgpolariski]

Also, along with everything else, the gas that's being sprayed in the house, it isn't that hard to figure out what's up with that.
which should tell you how dumb the mc is that he hasn't noticed it yet.

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Also, along with everything else, the gas that's being sprayed in the house, it isn't that hard to figure out what's up with that.
which should tell you how dumb the mc is that he hasn't noticed it yet.

why would he noticed that? it's summer and the air condition is on.. it's not that strange at all. Most of the house is already fucking due to Hunter older methods plus people from outside the house wanted to fuck him without Hunter's interfere. So why would Sterling assume there is something wrong? Hunter is not even in the house to say anything to lead him to think something is currently wrong.

Drew doesn't act like Hunter, and doesn't appear to be using anything other then her "feminine" charm at the moment.