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Chapter 9/10 have gotten rapey as fuck with everyone getting gassed and ignoring explicit NO/STOP. I've been having a blast with the game up to this point and while there had been playing with boundaries before it's starting to blow through stop signs. Especially disappointing given how deliberative and self-conscious the game had been being about consent, especially with how it factored into the creation of dommy mommy.
But maybe I'm expecting too much from a game which, for all the smart humor in it, is still willing to make a chink joke and complain about the N-word not being acceptable anymore.
But maybe I'm expecting too much from a game which, for all the smart humor in it, is still willing to make a chink joke and complain about the N-word not being acceptable anymore.
Well, none of them are in the know that they are being constantly drugged with more or less everything (remember hunter had a bag filled with the stuff) so it might just be an escalation of that, remember that as you said on chapter 1 MC wouldn't even concider enter the Ophelia's room without permission and the playing with boundaries started because the characters literally coudn't control themselves.
I'm not asking you to like how rapey it has become because sincerelly it has, it has been a whole discussion since the release of ch.10 if I remember correctly but I'm asking you to trust the Dev that has demostrated finess with this subject up to this point to have a plan about this turn of events.
Fayn Arawn
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What I'm interested to see is how the characters will feel if/when they find out they've been drugged. Will they regret their actions, or will they view the drugs as something that "helped" them overcome their inhibitions to do what they truly wanted anyway?
As for the racist jokes, well comedy is subjective, but yeah you might be taking them too seriously. This game is full of all kinds of offensive jokes, not just racist ones, so it doesn't seem like there's a particular bias. And there's also plenty of other content in the game that many would find offensive, I don't see why offensive jokes should be taboo in a work explicitly intended for adults.
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Expanding Bodies And Minds
In Chapter 11, Kumiko's mentor visits to administer a physical but first requires our MC to imbibe.
In Chapter 11, Kumiko's mentor visits to administer a physical but first requires our MC to imbibe.
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If it doesn't have a "bad ending" where Sterling tries to fuck Kumiko but fuck the mentor, it'll be a lost oportunity
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How is it disappointing? It's all due to the influence of Hunter. It's not hypocritical for the characters to fail living up to their previously extolled virtues when they're constantly being drugged with psychoactive drugs.
When does anyone complain about the N-word not being acceptable anymore?
And Hunter made the chink joke. He's a villain. A serial rapist who doesn't appear to be above murder. That kind of thing should be completely expected from him because who would write a psychotic criminal who's afraid of hurting people's feelings with a joke?
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Exactly, and Hunter is one of the best villains I've seen in an adult game.
Now I know this is a complete change of subject, but when will CH11 be released?
I know that due to the amount of content you add each update, it takes longer but could you maybe give an estimate?
December or January?
"And in further news, a man, suspected of drugging and raping countless women, as well as person of interest in several mysterious disappearances, has been arrested for using a racial slur. The prosecuter said that he will serve as an example to all those "other boomers" that times have changed and such language is no longer appropriate."
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Its in character with Hunter sure, but like it or not, YOU made the chink joke. Thats something you decided to write into your game. So whether its right or wrong, you cant justify it by simply saying, "Its not me its my character". Also, dudes allowed to be bummed if your last few chapters have a more rapey vibe, again, whether its justified in the story or not. I personally like the corruption but thats just me. Its ridiculous to keep coming in here just to put people down when they have an opinion you dont agree with. If hes incorrect about your game or how to play it thats one thing. But if you actually did make a racial joke and he took offense to it, he has every right. Dude could be asian for all you know...
First of all, I truly appreciate that you've taken the time to read and respond here. I was motivated to post mostly as a mini-rant and I bothered at all because I've enjoyed and laughed at this game so much and gotten so engaged with it. I hadn't even know the devs were active here and never imagined it might be seen.
I'd pretended to myself that it was possible to play this game as if there wasn't non-consensual sex in it, which worked great for eight chapters and I kinda fell in love with the game I thought I saw. After characters effectively got mind-controlled into being rapists and rape victims over and over again, my self-delusions were shattered, I got annoyed at the game instead of myself, and lashed out here.
When a serial rapist appears on the mantelpiece in act 1, one should not be surprised when there are serial rapes in act 3, even though the rest of the play was a hilarious cross between incest porn and every sitcom that ever had a dad joke in it. No amount of gesticulation about the lack of a rape tag on the playbill, the superb quality and quantity of the jokes, or the loss of agency in the third act can change that.
Apologies for firing my headcanon in public.
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Thanks for the support (comment OP here) but I wasn't put down in any way by the dev's response. The discussion (in my chain at least; I haven't read prior posts) is entirely civil and I think the dev should be applauded and encouraged for being here, not attacked for it.
With that logic, Quinten Tarantino is a hood-wearing racist for writing Django Unchained, since he's the one who wrote all the racist dialogue the slave owners use.
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Conflating depictions of offensive behavior and condoning of said behavior is the height of idiocy. Perhaps no fictional characters should ever be murdered, because murder offends me?
Also you forgot to capitalize "Asian", you bigot.