Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Ranma]

Its in character with Hunter sure, but like it or not, YOU made the chink joke. Thats something you decided to write into your game. So whether its right or wrong, you cant justify it by simply saying, "Its not me its my character". Also, dudes allowed to be bummed if your last few chapters have a more rapey vibe, again, whether its justified in the story or not. I personally like the corruption but thats just me. Its ridiculous to keep coming in here just to put people down when they have an opinion you dont agree with. If hes incorrect about your game or how to play it thats one thing. But if you actually did make a racial joke and he took offense to it, he has every right. Dude could be asian for all you know...

Why stop there?
Shouldn't you also blame the developer for being a serial rapist? A killer? Or even for drugging people?
Because if we're gonna start conflating every author's works (especially works of fiction) with the author's morality, then we might as well start judging and punishing people for having thoughts.

"A work is not its author. The opinions of a character do not have to be those of their author, any more than their nationality or their marital status should be."
"Fiction consists of trying to be someone else and understand that someone else, both on the part of the author and the reader."
"Somewhat controversially, a German philosopher recently argued that our “new” demand for authenticity was going to lead us to demand that, from this moment on, all the actors who play Nazis in the movies have anti-Semitic sympathies."
- Patricio Pron (source:

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[Thojnaan]

Tbh the worst part about the game is the hypocrisy.

 

[Sumatra 3D]

Now you know how the ntr haters feel.

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Uh no. First off, NTR haters screech about anything. Besides, NTR consistently dominates the prelim suggestion voting. Vanilla has never stood a chance in wallpaper or what-ifs. Futa on the other hand still makes it to final polls besides not even getting half the votes of the top suggestions and then it goes on to win the poll. At least NTR ideas are interesting because people put effort into setting up creative scenarios (e.g. The trip to Africa) or they just want to extend a bad ending from the main VN. Futa suggestions are always just "What if this girl had a dick or that girl had a dick or all the girls had dicks?" The problem is not Futa winning at all but Futa ideas being low effort/boring and still somehow winning.

The simple answer is that there are a lot more people that just want to see all the girls have dicks than there are people who want to see the other ideas. However, given that the other ideas tend to garner at least a third of the votes individually and more than half when combined, I'd say more people would rather not see Futa but the non-futa votes get split which allows Futa to win the polls.

 

[punisher2099]

Uh no. First off, NTR haters screech about anything. Besides, NTR consistently dominates the prelim suggestion voting. Vanilla has never stood a chance in wallpaper or what-ifs. Futa on the other hand still makes it to final polls besides not even getting half the votes of the top suggestions and then it goes on to win the poll. At least NTR ideas are interesting because people put effort into setting up creative scenarios (e.g. The trip to Africa) or they just want to extend a bad ending from the main VN. Futa suggestions are always just "What if this girl had a dick or that girl had a dick or all the girls had dicks?" The problem is not Futa winning at all but Futa ideas being low effort/boring and still somehow winning.

The simple answer is that there are a lot more people that just want to see all the girls have dicks than there are people who want to see the other ideas. However, given that the other ideas tend to garner at least a third of the votes individually and more than half when combined, I'd say more people would rather not see Futa but the non-futa votes get split which allows Futa to win the polls.

Yeah, you don't sound butthurt at all.

 

[Sumatra 3D]

Yeah, you don't sound butthurt at all.

Dude. I'm not some rando complaining about random shit on F95. I'm subbed to his highest patreon tier and I have noticed a pattern I do not like. As a paying customer I can point it out and say I do not like it. I was also explaining the difference between random NTR haters screeching and why people are not thrilled about Futa winning. I like Futa too. The world is not black and white. Not shitting on or laughing at people who don't like futa doesn't mean I'm a rabid futa hater who is butthurt.
Try harder.

 

[Sumatra 3D]

There is nothing I just said that I haven't said on the official discord or on patreon so don't talk out the side of your neck.

 

[punisher2099]

There is nothing I just said that I haven't said on the official discord or on patreon so don't talk out the side of your neck.

Why are you getting so upset? You can vent your frustrations...just like everybody else can.

 

[Sumatra 3D]

Why are you getting so upset? You can vent your frustrations...just like everybody else can.

I'm not upset. I made a comment and you said I was butthurt and I refuted your claim. Based on what you've typed, you're trying to troll me to rile me up. Nice try bro but it's not working.

 

[punisher2099]

I'm not upset. I made a comment and you said I was butthurt and I refuted your claim. Based on what you've typed, you're trying to troll me to rile me up. Nice try bro but it's not working.

My original post was about hypocrisy, suddenly the people who were happy with the what ifs now take issues with it. They're just going to have to deal with it.

 

[Teddybear91]

I'm sorry in advance to anyone that this may upset, but...

Why is it that almost every thread I'm on, people are always finding something to argue about?
That's literally all I've been seeing lately.

People need to learn to accept the opinions of others.
Everyone has the right to their opinion.

There will always be things that someone won't like, but someone else will.

Game Devs may or may not take your suggestions and criticism into account, but at the end of the day, it's the Dev's project and they can add what they want to it, so either support the project or don't.
There's no need to get into a silly argument because of it.

Anyway... I'm looking forward to the next What If? and the next chapter

 

[Sumatra 3D]

My original post was about hypocrisy, suddenly the people who were happy with the what ifs now take issues with it. They're just going to have to deal with it.

...and I explained why it's not that simple and there is no nuance in such an assertion. It's literally what my comment is about. I was explaining the difference between NTR haters dunking on the game and dev and some people feeling frustrated at futa winning side content polls. You are the one that read my comment and replied that I was being butthurt.

 

[punisher2099]

...and I explained why it's not that simple and there is no nuance in such an assertion. It's literally what my comment is about. I was explaining the difference between NTR haters dunking on the game and dev and some people feeling frustrated at futa winning side content polls. You are the one that read my comment and replied that I was being butthurt.

I was only referring to the what ifs or more specifically, something that won that they didn't like, not the whole game.

Futa suggestions are always just "What if this girl had a dick or that girl had a dick or all the girls had dicks?" The problem is not Futa winning at all but Futa ideas being low effort/boring and still somehow winning.

Judging by this part of your post, you seem to have quite an issue with it. But that's okay, anyone can have issues with the what if results is all I'm saying...er typing.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Judging by this part of your post, you seem to have quite an issue with it. But that's okay, anyone can have issues with the what if results is all I'm saying...er typing.

I'm glad you're here to tell us these things.

I'm also frustrated with the voting system. I kinda feel like the top suggestion should just be the winner. Maybe what's happening is all the people that made unpopular suggestions vote for a wild card out of spite for the winning suggestion?

 

[What? Why? Games]

I'm also frustrated with the voting system. I kinda feel like the top suggestion should just be the winner. Maybe what's happening is all the people that made unpopular suggestions vote for a wild card out of spite for the winning suggestion?

The problem seems to be that almost no one is voting on suggestions(round one) but everyone is voting on the polls(round two). It leads to wild underdog swings. If I decided to make it only one round(suggestions), then all of the people who only vote in round two(polls) would show up and likely lead to the same result.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

The problem seems to be that almost no one is voting on suggestions(round one) but everyone is voting on the polls(round two). It leads to wild underdog swings. If I decided to make it only one round(suggestions), then all of the people who only vote in round two(polls) would show up and likely lead to the same result.

There is a chance that having more choices could split the top vote, but I see what you're saying.

I'm at the point where instead of trying to think of clever suggestions, I'm tempted to submit the dumbest thing I can think of, just to see how many people go for it.

 

[Sumatra 3D]

The problem seems to be that almost no one is voting on suggestions(round one) but everyone is voting on the polls(round two). It leads to wild underdog swings. If I decided to make it only one round(suggestions), then all of the people who only vote in round two(polls) would show up and likely lead to the same result.

Yeah. This is another explanation. I think it's what you said and also the votes being split similar to when a voter base gets plit irl and the candidate for the other side wins.

 

[Sumatra 3D]

There is a chance that having more choices could split the top vote, but I see what you're saying.

I'm at the point where instead of trying to think of clever suggestions, I'm tempted to submit the dumbest thing I can think of, just to see how many people go for it.

Next Suggestion: What If Ophelia had...2 dicks?

 

[What? Why? Games]

There is a chance that having more choices could split the top vote, but I see what you're saying.

There'd be no splitting since people can vote as many times as they like in the suggestion phase. It's one of the main reasons I do two rounds.

 

[Sumatra 3D]

There is a chance that having more choices could split the top vote, but I see what you're saying.

I'm at the point where instead of trying to think of clever suggestions, I'm tempted to submit the dumbest thing I can think of, just to see how many people go for it.

Dude, are you in the server?

 

[Mercyflush]

Personally I'm ok with the what ifs literally doing whatever. Just keep futa Ophelia out of the main game. What ifs are a great way to fulfill peoples kinks without compromising the main story.

At the end of the day isn't jacking off the reason we are all here? I get off to butt-stuff and incest, some get off to chicks with dicks. Lets be the best pervs we can be and be kind to each other on this porn forum.

Edit: Also does anyone know when the next chapter will be dropping? I started playing this game like a month ago and I'm hooked.