Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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Sometimes the what if's are pretty good(1, 3, 5, and kind of 7), and the one's that aren't so good are usually because their boring or too much on the ntr side of things(all of these are basically ntr to the max, but how it's done, and who its done with mean everything).

This one I did like for the unique kinks of futa ntr. However, given who they did the futa'ing too and how she was written, I would of liked this if just Sterling and the mom split the difference and fucked hunter out of the picture(sharing, and basically cucking hunter out of the picture). Clever and fun use of other games however, I thought that was nice and on the nose for those and this game.

Overall, while I do say keep them up; at least if they keep this level of novelty (2 and 6 I didn't like because they were basically just old school ntr plots, but do use lucia more she is bae), please don't get so wrapped up in what if's to end up stopping the main story. Especially since; even though I like some ntr with good characters, I do wish given how sterling has been built up, he would get less dicked on in a horribly karmic way in these stories. Honestly this is also one of those games that balances both ntr/non-ntr choices so well, that while I like to see how you sneak ntr into a update, I enjoy seeing how sterling win's out and beats hutner. Because usually if both choices are an actual option and a creator is trying, inevitably they usually end up putting more effort into one side then another.

I wouldn't be surprised if the main story took a bit longer, since you seem to always add unique or at least interesting/enjoyable dialogue for a genre that usually goes towards the lowest hanging fruit of entertainment. Thanks for the fun while fapping!
 
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What? Why? Games said:
I don't know why people need this explained, but here's a mock-up of my schedule:

If I work six hours a day, seven days a week on the main game(assuming eight hours of sleep), that gives me ten hours of non-allotted time per day.

Now, during periods where I have a lenient schedule, if I devote three of those ten hours to What Ifs? as a form of overtime, how is that delaying development of the main game?

Yes, I could spend those overtime hours on the main game. Same way every salary worker could put in 50% more hours per day for no benefit. My goal as a one-man team is to find a work/life balance that is sustainable. The What Ifs? stretch me thin but I do them because I'm passionate about exploring new concepts in my work and they are a breath of fresh air to me.

People like to throw around the term "milking", but understand that if my patrons want me to stop doing What Ifs?, then they'll just be getting less content on the same schedule because I'm not spending more than 42 hours a week on a creative job that pulls in manager at McDonald's money at it's peak. If you average it out with the first two years where I made employee at McDonald's money and the 15 thousand in computer equipment, it's laughable to expect more.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is my update schedule. And my update schedule of 6-7 months per chapter is absolutely fair. For the amount of content in it and compared to other developers. When you factor in the What Ifs?, you can see how much of my time goes to pumping out content for my patrons. Chapter 11 has been scheduled for January for months on my end whether the What Ifs? exist or not.
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To be honest, i dont know how you are so patient with thoses guys lol, everytime this game recieve a update, a bunch of retards come here crying about ONE game recieving like 10% of scenes they dont like and dont need to see, to me, they should be ban from this thread but i dont know the rules, and i pretty sure you know that already but they will come back in January to complain about NTR scenes again, just ignore it and keep up with your job man, after that What If, i 100% sure you can be way bigger in this type of games, maybe you next project, you should try to release on Steam or something like that, anyway, thanks for the game and i realy hope you can earn way more, to bad i live in a shit country and dolar are way to expensive right now but i promise you i will "help" in the future.
 
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yourmomma

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I see the Anti-NTR crybabies are up to their old whining antics again.

wHy DoEsN't ThE dEv aNd PaTrEoN's CaTeR To My EnTiTlEd PIrAtInG aSs??!!! waaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa

Friggin' infants, are incapable of seperating fiction from reality.

Quite frankly I like the What if's. Their fun and whimsical. I hope the Dev keeps making them.
 
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I'm actually very satisfied with Power Vacuum's overall progress. Versus too many to mention other games out there that are literally doing NOTHING for YEARS and are basically scamming their patreons. Although it's their money not mine but point being, Power Vaccuum has been getting these insanely well done "What Ifs" sidestories that are high quality and not just some random 5 minute useless garbage that other devs put out as "sidestories" just to buy them more time to scam their patreons.

And the story of Power Vaccuum is already so far ahead of everyone that everyone knows it's nearing completion. Again, unlike majority of other games that just cockteases you update after update. There's always something in this game EVERY update, whether you're into it or not there's always something.

I don't even like Futa, I'm not playing the new What If, and that's totally fine! But I know someone that actually enjoys that tag will appreciate it. I already enjoyed the 7 other What Ifs and the actual game with a shit ton of content in it and ACTUAL ACTION.
 
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What? Why? Games said:
Yes, I could spend those overtime hours on the main game. Same way every salary worker could put in 50% more hours per day for no benefit. My goal as a one-man team is to find a work/life balance that is sustainable. The What Ifs? stretch me thin but I do them because I'm passionate about exploring new concepts in my work and they are a breath of fresh air to me.
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Well, you're not exactly a salary worker in this case, you're more of an enterprenour, and everything regarding your product has repercussions, either positive or negative. If you stopped with the what ifs, it would have some effect on your earnings, and so would releasing main updates in 4 months instead of 6 (if you spent those extra hours working on the main game). Which one would be more beneficial to you, thats another discussion.

In the end of the day, it comes down to what I said before, you say working 9 hours on the main game would burn you out, while 6 hours in the main game + 3 hours on what ifs doesn't because you enjoy it more.

But "people need this explained" because it's pretty much the same work, and therefore there's not much reason why the main game would be taxing enough to be considered "work time", while the what ifs are "free time". But If the different script somehow makes it more enjoyable for you to work on what if, then it is what it is, I'm not gonna pretend to be able to read your mind.
 
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THe WHAT IF? are getting better and better and this one is the BEST... Really loved the crossover at the end. I was hoping for Ophelia to go visit Linda from Milfy City but of course, the dev cannot make crossover with every popular porn game on patreon.

What? Why? Games If you ever see my message, just be aware that right now with the crossover, you have a tool in your hands. You have endless possibilities of making parodies about other games.

Because right now we are reaching the next level : we used to have NTR porn games that are parodies of major franchise in pop culture, big budget doushinji. But Now... we are getting NTR parodies of porn games and this is simply perfect.

You did an amazing job wth this What-if 8, I am as much excited about those than I am about the main game. See you in january. ;)
 
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What? Why? Games said:
I don't know why people need this explained, but here's a mock-up of my schedule:

If I work six hours a day, seven days a week on the main game(assuming eight hours of sleep), that gives me ten hours of non-allotted time per day.

Now, during periods where I have a lenient schedule, if I devote three of those ten hours to What Ifs? as a form of overtime, how is that delaying development of the main game?

Yes, I could spend those overtime hours on the main game. Same way every salary worker could put in 50% more hours per day for no benefit. My goal as a one-man team is to find a work/life balance that is sustainable. The What Ifs? stretch me thin but I do them because I'm passionate about exploring new concepts in my work and they are a breath of fresh air to me.

People like to throw around the term "milking", but understand that if my patrons want me to stop doing What Ifs?, then they'll just be getting less content on the same schedule because I'm not spending more than 42 hours a week on a creative job that pulls in manager at McDonald's money at it's peak. If you average it out with the first two years where I made employee at McDonald's money and the 15 thousand in computer equipment, it's laughable to expect more.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is my update schedule. And my update schedule of 6-7 months per chapter is absolutely fair. For the amount of content in it and compared to other developers. When you factor in the What Ifs?, you can see how much of my time goes to pumping out content for my patrons. Chapter 11 has been scheduled for January for months on my end whether the What Ifs? exist or not.
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Well, you explained well. But, can you please also respond on his "render count of all what Ifs between chapter 10 and chapter 11 compare to the update coming in January" Argument? Is that update (without bad ntrs) going to be huge compare to all what ifs combined? Particularly & most importantly, lewd renders.
 
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harsha_26 said:
Well, you explained well. But, can you please also respond on his "render count of all what Ifs between chapter 10 and chapter 11 compare to the update coming in January" Argument? Is that update (without bad ntrs) going to be huge compare to all what ifs combined? Particularly & most importantly, lewd renders.
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That's not fair. The what ifs are meant to be fuck fest and less story. You want something that's made with instant gratification to be compared to something that has an erotic scene every 2nd or 3rd scene.

probably not exact, but if we got by ratio, 80% the content for this what if was someone blowing Ophelia, trying to blow Ophelia or fucking Ophelia. While maybe 40% of the main games update is sex.

The main game is going to be developing story. The two games have different goals in mind.
 
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Joey's Conscience said:
Well, you're not exactly a salary worker in this case, you're more of an enterprenour, and everything regarding your product has repercussions, either positive or negative. If you stopped with the what ifs, it would have some effect on your earnings, and so would releasing main updates in 4 months instead of 6 (if you spent those extra hours working on the main game). Which one would be more beneficial to you, thats another discussion.

In the end of the day, it comes down to what I said before, you say working 9 hours on the main game would burn you out, while 6 hours in the main game + 3 hours on what ifs doesn't because you enjoy it more.

But "people need this explained" because it's pretty much the same work, and therefore there's not much reason why the main game would be taxing enough to be considered "work time", while the what ifs are "free time". But If the different script somehow makes it more enjoyable for you to work on what if, then it is what it is, I'm not gonna pretend to be able to read your mind.
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You seem to have understood the work/life balance argument, but you may have missed the economic one. Think about it: Patreon developers don't get paid by the hour, and they don't get paid based on delivery of their product. What is the incentive to rush development?

The salary worker analogy is perfectly apt. It's like an unwritten contract where the patrons expect a certain amount of value after a certain amount of time. As one of those patrons, I'm willing to wait (and pay) as long as I feel I'm getting fair value. And as a middle-aged adult with other things to do, 6-7 months wait is not the end of the world for me. (Insert rant about young people and instant gratification here.)

If WWG were to put out more frequent updates, they'd almost certainly be smaller and lesser in quality. This would more likely risk losing supporters (like myself) than gaining them, as well as risk burnout which would also affect quality. I've seen too many games put out frequent, tiny, boring updates, and I don't support them.
 
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dartred said:
That's not fair. The what ifs are meant to be fuck fest and less story. You want something that's made with instant gratification to be compared to something that has an erotic scene every 2nd or 3rd scene.

probably not exact, but if we got by ratio, 80% the content for this what if was someone blowing Ophelia, trying to blow Ophelia or fucking Ophelia. While maybe 40% of the main games update is sex.

The main game is going to be developing story. The two games have different goals in mind.
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So, in a way, if we calculate all the what ifs and main story combined & make a overall content. Then, It means, NTR fanbase got more lewd all over to fap with all the main Lis, while non ntr fanbase has to satisfy with heavy story, particularly with Ophelia along with some lewds. Okay. Very fair lol. Thankyou.
 
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Could somebody please tell me if i'm right to assume that the girl circled in red its the MC's mom, and the girl circled in blue its the MC's sister? 1669438847540.png
 
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That foot of the mountain joke had me rolling. Worst grind I have ever seen and it wasn't exaggerating. Good thing I play enough porn games to get all the references. Since I'm a part of the 1.5% of people that enjoy Futa and NTR this was my favorite what if so far.
 
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